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Hook
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Beer licensing in Mexico to change?
I heard some gossip the other day that there was a major ruling by the Mexican Supreme Court (or its equivalent) in July that has effectively blocked
the Big Two beer companies in Mexico from buying up all alcohol licenses and then re-selling them to individual stores, restaurants, etc. Supposedly,
there is a transitioning period where they will have to divest themselves of their licenses, to a point where they will have only something like 20%
of the licenses, countrywide, by a certain date.
Has anyone heard anything like this? Anyone have friends in the craft beer business in Mexico? They might know about this.
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So some day we will see both Dos Equis and Pacifico in the SAME STORE!!! ??? 
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This has already happened; beer exclusivity was eliminated.
Craft beer is champing at the bit, but the problem is that they don't have the production facilities to meet the demand (which is why you never see
Mexican craft beer in the U.S.—there isn't enough to satisfy even the local demand).
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Hook
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So, I guess the main thing that is keeping restaurants aligned with one brewer is having to buy their own refrigerators and plastic tables? 
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OMG what's an oxxo to do??? Seriously the move away from oligarchs, Telmex, Bimbo, Coca Cola, CEMEX and the beer giants etc. is long overdue. Change
will come albeit slowly. The craft breweries better start ramping up tho, the current offerings are pretty poor. At least in the Baja. Are their
"truly" good craft beers being made in the mainland?
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Hook
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OXXo's wont be affected. They're owned by Tecate.
I am "scheduled" to try some AguaMala beer in a couple days. Someone gave some of their pa-lé a-lé, IPA and oatmeal stout to a friend of mine who
brews in batches of 5 and 10 gallons down here (ingredients from NOB).
Based on his assessment, CervezaMala would be a more appropriate name.......nasty chemical aftertaste, according to him. Maybe just skunk? The stout
was OK, supposedly.
But I am keeping an open mind after being schooled on Mexican wine, recently.
[Edited on 12-24-2013 by Hook]
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Baja Craft Beers
There are a growing number of craft beer brewers in Baja, including a local Ensenada group I am involved with, Cervecería Tres Brewjas.
If you are interested in Baja Craft Beer, you may want to attend the Ensenada Craft Beer Festival, April 19th. last year there were about 50 craft
brewers at the festival.
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Hook
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I remember you or someone posting about that.
What is the format of the festival? A general admission and then the tastings are free? Or a la carte?
There are tastings, right????
Where are you guys getting your bulk ingredients? From San Diego?
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Flat fee to get in and a 4oz glass. You get to sample, your card is punched. you also have an opportunity to buy tickets at 10 pesos each for
additional tastings (4oz=10 pesos, 12oz=30 pesos).
Plenty of food and music.
Yes, we get most of our supplies (grain, yeast, hops) from various sources in San Diego, but we are considering growing a few strains of hops here.
PS: Found several types of Monte Xanic here in Ensenada at COSTCO and Sam's Club
| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
I remember you or someone posting about that.
What is the format of the festival? A general admission and then the tastings are free? Or a la carte?
There are tastings, right????
Where are you guys getting your bulk ingredients? From San Diego? |
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Hook
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Yeah, I seem to recall a few M.X. wines at the Costco in Hermosillo over here, too. Dismissed them, offhand. I will re-look at them after the
holidays. Probably buy one or two.
That Chard was great, IMO, if you didnt see my review.
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If you make it to the beer festival, stop at our booth and say "HI"
| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
Yeah, I seem to recall a few M.X. wines at the Costco in Hermosillo over here, too. Dismissed them, offhand. I will re-look at them after the
holidays. Probably buy one or two.
That Chard was great, IMO, if you didnt see my review. |
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That's a very interesting industry. in many ways ....
Production of a product which has the added benefit of being "Beer" ...
Thanks for the info ... strange how YOU stumbled on to something like this ... 
Keep it up ... pictures would be nice .. might add a few ... scratch that, no one drinks beer HERE ... 
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
I heard some gossip the other day that there was a major ruling by the Mexican Supreme Court (or its equivalent) in July |
Mexico's Federal Competition Commission (Cofeco).
| Quote: | | ...Supposedly, there is a transitioning period where they will have to divest themselves of their licenses, to a point where they will have only
something like 20% of the licenses, countrywide, by a certain date. |
"The two Mexican brewers agreed to conditions including limiting exclusivity deals in convenience stores and restaurants to a maximum of 25 percent of
points of sale, reducing this to 20 percent over the next five years."
http://www.moneynews.com/Companies/Mexico-beer-competition-J...
"[SAB]Miller believes the settlement resolution failed to truly address the monopolistic activities of the two dominant brewers due to the inadequate
and undefined nature of the commitments. The commitments made by both brewers are limited by several significant exclusions, which still make it
possible to deny access to a majority of retail sales and to large and important regions."
http://www.beveragedaily.com/Regulation-Safety/SAB-Miller-pa...
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Baja Brewing Company has a reasonably good Peyote Pale Ale, which is basically an American IPA. It's the only craft beer I've found in Southern
Baja, although I'm willing to search for others. 
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
If you make it to the beer festival, stop at our booth and say "HI"
| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
Yeah, I seem to recall a few M.X. wines at the Costco in Hermosillo over here, too. Dismissed them, offhand. I will re-look at them after the
holidays. Probably buy one or two.
That Chard was great, IMO, if you didnt see my review. |
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Curious, are the craft brewers in your area creating their own style or are they similar to San Diego breweries? I would love to find some new
breweries south of the border but have so many options nearby.
We might just plan on making a weekend out of the beer festival. We'll look you up if we do.
[Edited on 12-24-2013 by Bajaboy]
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It is wide open down here. some are trying to recreate beers from established micro-breweries and some are trying new recipes. I think you will be
surprised at the quality and types of craft beers being produced in Baja.
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
If you make it to the beer festival, stop at our booth and say "HI"
| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
Yeah, I seem to recall a few M.X. wines at the Costco in Hermosillo over here, too. Dismissed them, offhand. I will re-look at them after the
holidays. Probably buy one or two.
That Chard was great, IMO, if you didnt see my review. |
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Curious, are the craft brewers in your area creating their own style or are they similar to San Diego breweries? I would love to find some new
breweries south of the border but have so many options nearby.
We might just plan on making a weekend out of the beer festival. We'll look you up if we do.
[Edited on 12-24-2013 by Bajaboy] |
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Count me in, too. Will be coming by truck camper from Sonora. Any boondocking, on site, or is the location still TBD?
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Ensenada Beer Festival
Location (I think) will be the same as last year, the Riveria convention complex on the Costero, across from the cruiseport terminal. It is held
outside. As soon as I get an update, I'll post
Don't know of anyplace to camp close, other than Estero Beach RV park
| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
Count me in, too. Will be coming by truck camper from Sonora. Any boondocking, on site, or is the location still TBD? |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
So, I guess the main thing that is keeping restaurants aligned with one brewer is having to buy their own refrigerators and plastic tables? |
...and those big outdoor signs and painting of the structure. Now everyone will have to pay for this stuff.
Bob Durrell
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| Quote: | Originally posted by pauldavidmena
Baja Brewing Company has a reasonably good Peyote Pale Ale,
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Exactly my point. There are some kinda good, maybe ok dishwater being sold here but NO excellent craft brews. Modelo has a weisen that is horse p.
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