Ken Cooke
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Hwy 101 - San Ysidro
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Bob H
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Great photo. Love that 1959 Ford on the far right!!
And, not a Toyota in sight!
[Edited on 12-23-2013 by Bob H]
The SAME boiling water that softens the potato hardens the egg. It's about what you are made of NOT the circumstance.
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BajaGeoff
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Classic photo!
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob H
Great photo. Love that 1959 Ford on the far right!!
And, not a Toyota in sight!
[Edited on 12-23-2013 by Bob H] |
Bob, you own a Nissan... and American cars didn't fall apart so easily back then... that started in the mid 70's! Good things were built in the
50's... I was! 
If my Jeep didn't fall apart, I wouldn't have switched to Japanese made in 1977.
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Ken Cooke
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob H
Great photo. Love that 1959 Ford on the far right!!
And, not a Toyota in sight!
[Edited on 12-23-2013 by Bob H] |
Bob, you own a Nissan... and American cars didn't fall apart so easily back then... that started in the mid 70's! Good things were built in the
50's... I was!
If my Jeep didn't fall apart, I wouldn't have switched to Japanese made in 1977. |
David - Jeep upgrades are a normal part of Jeeps. Your OEM radiator cracks, you replace with aluminum. Your shocks leak or fade, you replace with
internal bypass. Couldn't you have upgraded your Jeep to be even more Baja-ready???
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bajaguy
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Location
Be interesting to try and find that location today and take a comparison photo
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Bob H
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob H
Great photo. Love that 1959 Ford on the far right!!
And, not a Toyota in sight!
[Edited on 12-23-2013 by Bob H] |
Bob, you own a Nissan... and American cars didn't fall apart so easily back then... that started in the mid 70's! Good things were built in the
50's... I was!
If my Jeep didn't fall apart, I wouldn't have switched to Japanese made in 1977. |
Love my Nissan truck. But, I also own two Fords!
The SAME boiling water that softens the potato hardens the egg. It's about what you are made of NOT the circumstance.
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Bob H
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The more I look at this photo, the more interesting it is.
The border was called a "boundary" and there are so many telephone poles in the background. Don't see many of those these days.
And, Chevron gas stations were called "Standard" !
Oh, and "white wall tires" !!!
[Edited on 12-24-2013 by Bob H]
The SAME boiling water that softens the potato hardens the egg. It's about what you are made of NOT the circumstance.
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Ken Cooke
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob H
Great photo. Love that 1959 Ford on the far right!!
And, not a Toyota in sight!
[Edited on 12-23-2013 by Bob H] |
Bob, you own a Nissan... and American cars didn't fall apart so easily back then... that started in the mid 70's! Good things were built in the
50's... I was!
If my Jeep didn't fall apart, I wouldn't have switched to Japanese made in 1977. |
David - Jeep upgrades are a normal part of Jeeps. Your OEM radiator cracks, you replace with aluminum. Your shocks leak or fade, you replace with
internal bypass. Couldn't you have upgraded your Jeep to be even more Baja-ready??? |
I fixed one failure, then something else would break... this was a new vehicle, not beat-up, power steering, radiator, door handles, rear window
motor, water pump, carburetor, low range, even the transmission failed... at 2 years of age. Complete junk in quality and manufacturing... 1975.5
model AMC Jeep Cherokee Chief, 401 V-8, Quadra Trac.
I sold it to some poor sucker (after it was repaired, naturally)... and with the cash, bought my first Subaru 4WD Wagon... and there were never any
issues with it from materials or workmanship... I put 136,000 miles on it in 3 years... all over Baja and the desert, too. Matomi canyon, Gonzaga
grades... amazing vehicle. As the Subaru got bigger and with more features, I traded up ('80 and '87). I also bought a used '87 Mitsubishi truck, and
a used '90 Mazda MPV mini van... both great running...
I gave an American brand another chance in 1997... Plymouth... again, complete junk... 3 transmission rebuilds before I traded it for my first Tacoma.
There is just no comparison in quality and durability between American and Japanese built vehicles. Nobody should tolerate crap construction. That
only prevents the American brands from building better. Shock mounts shouldn't bust off on a Rubicon, nor anything else under the off road driving it
was supposed to be made for.
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durrelllrobert
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"That fool was the terror of highway 101"
In 1956 one of my friends bought a 1949 Cadillac ambulance that still had working lights and siren. We made a run from Chula vista to Long Beach up
101 in less than 3 hours, passing through all the beach towns. As I remember that trip was about 150 miles?
Bob Durrell
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jimgrms
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AMC built a lot of junk back in the day, and there wasn't much in the line of aftermarket (upgrade )parts
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Ken Cooke
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Shock mounts shouldn't bust off on a Rubicon, nor anything else under the off road driving it was supposed to be made for. |
Since these shock bar-pins were bolted under my Jeep, I haven't suffered a single bar-pin breakage. Hence, up-grade, up-grade, up-grade! 
[Edited on 12-24-2013 by Ken Cooke]
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David K
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That's great Ken...
I guess I have an Off Road TRD Tacoma because right off the showroom floor it can go to Mission Santa Maria and any of the other roads or trails I put
it to. Maybe there can be some underbody rock dents or a bent chrome bumper, because that road is that bad! However, no broken suspension or driveline
parts to upgrade, and I have only the one vehicle to drive to work when I get back from a Baja vacation, so it has to not break! Oh what a feeling...
I think Jeeps are cool (well maybe not the 2014 Fiat/Cherokee), I just can't afford to have one, nor want a project vehicle. Baja Angel loved her '79
CJ-5 Renegade, too... had it for 20 years! It was an AMC, so poor quality was not universal to AMC or all American brands... It is just once you
experience quality, trouble-free performance of Japanese brands, it is hard to not always expect that level of vehicle.
I am impressed with Ford's Raptor, I must say... so I am not dissing every U.S. model, just praising the many Japanese brands I have found to be
'Baja-Proven'!
[Edited on 12-24-2013 by David K]
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Ken Cooke
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
That's great Ken...
I guess I have an Off Road TRD Tacoma because right off the showroom floor it can go to Mission Santa Maria and any of the other roads or trails I put
it to. Maybe there can be some underbody rock dents or a bent chrome bumper, because that road is that bad! However, no broken suspension or driveline
parts to upgrade, and I have only the one vehicle to drive to work when I get back from a Baja vacation, so it has to not break! Oh what a feeling...
I think Jeeps are cool (well maybe not the 2014 Fiat/Cherokee), I just can't afford to have one, nor want a project vehicle. Baja Angel loved her '79
CJ-5 Renegade, too... had it for 20 years! It was an AMC, so poor quality was not universal to AMC or all American brands... It is just once you
experience quality, trouble-free performance of Japanese brands, it is hard to not always expect that level of vehicle.
I am impressed with Ford's Raptor, I must say... so I am not dissing every U.S. model, just praising the many Japanese brands I have found to be
'Baja-Proven'!
[Edited on 12-24-2013 by David K] |
After 10 yrs and some big modifications, my Jeep is showing its age. I took the Honda Pilot to Baja once, and it just wasn't the same. The "cool"
factor wasn't there.
As for the house on the hill, I would have to get out and walk that section of road to take a side-by-side photo for comparison.
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David K
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How does a Honda Pilot compare with ANYTHING like a 4WD truck (or Rubicon) with Bilstein shocks, a locking differential and low range 4WD? Yikes!
Hey Ken and Leideys, have a FELIZ NAVIDAD amigos!
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durrelllrobert
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jimgrms
AMC built a lot of junk back in the day, and there wasn't much in the line of aftermarket (upgrade )parts |
...except for the Javelin with 401 cid and 330 hp.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vst-h0sRyzE
Alabama State Trooper Replica. In 1971 & 1972 the Alabama State Patrol ordered 132 Javelins for highway patrol becoming the first law enforcement
agency in the country to implement a "Pony Car" for such duties. In later years other agencies would add Mustang's & Camaro's to their fleets. The
Javelin's were powered by 401 ci V8's and top speeds were reported in excess of 150 mph! The car offered here is a very accurate recreation of a 1972
model and it's powered by the 401 power plant. Complete with removable magnetic decals, gumball light, motorola police radios and more. This actual
car has been featured in numerous magazine articles and it was seen on TV's History channel. The "giveaways" on this replica are the front bumper
guards and passenger door mirror, two items the original cars were not ordered with.
Price: $22,900 obo
Bob Durrell
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