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[*] posted on 12-28-2013 at 05:23 PM
? 2004 Explorer transmission - help


On my last trip down my overdrive light started flashing and I could hear a squeal when I stopped. If I put it in neutral the squeal went away. Anyone have a guess what I'm dealing with and is there someone in the Mulege area that can work on (repair) transmissions?



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[*] posted on 12-28-2013 at 05:39 PM


I would start with Marcos under the bridge. I am sure you will get a lot of opinions.....Marcos has done well for me over the years.
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[*] posted on 12-28-2013 at 05:47 PM


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On my last trip down my overdrive light started flashing and I could hear a squeal when I stopped. If I put it in neutral the squeal went away. Anyone have a guess what I'm dealing with and is there someone in the Mulege area that can work on (repair) transmissions?


Hi Russ, I had a similar problem with a similar vehicle. Start with the easy stuff i.e. fluids also on the bottom of the truck right side of the trans is a vacuum line, check that because they get brittle and break. Good luck...........




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[*] posted on 12-28-2013 at 06:23 PM


russ

end the pain...no rebuilders here

take the trans out and haul it north where there are parts

transmissions are tricky and one broken part inside means rebuilding




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[*] posted on 12-28-2013 at 07:04 PM


Don't know if you think you can get it to Loreto, but we have a pretty good trans guy here. Ruben is his name, but he is semi-retired and is not open all the time. I could try to get a phone number if you're interested.
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[*] posted on 12-28-2013 at 07:39 PM


Check your U2U.
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[*] posted on 12-28-2013 at 07:56 PM


When I lost my Ford Ranger 4.0l transmission up in the Sierra San Pedro Martir, I could have had the truck towed to Ensenada and bolted in a similar unit, but I towed it to the US where I really paid a pretty penny to have it rebuilt. $2,500.00 and 2 years later, the engine developed a misfire in one of the cylinders. I sold it.



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[*] posted on 12-29-2013 at 06:00 AM


I googled it and there are a lot of things that could be faulty. Mostly with the torque converter. I'm hoping it's one of the easy fix problems -----:(



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[*] posted on 12-29-2013 at 06:38 AM


russ...the torque converter is attached to the trans and uses the oil from the trans...

inside the trans, are little valves that open and close...really little

when a torque converter fails metal shavings get into the oil...
you need to rebuild...

you can't just replace the torque converter and the oil...
the trans is fried




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[*] posted on 12-29-2013 at 07:11 AM


I fear you are right but I have to try to get it so I can get it North.



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[*] posted on 12-29-2013 at 07:21 AM


they don't build em like they used to. plastic parts in an engine timing belt usually snaps on the explorers after 70,000 miles
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[*] posted on 12-29-2013 at 07:27 AM


Russ, do a search on youtube, if you havent already. It could be something as simple as a valve body gasket that has failed. If the valve body gasket fails, it plays havoc with the pressures that the valves need. You can fix THAT if you can get a gasket and if it's the problem.

Those Ford trannies of that era were definitely problematic.

I read that your Explorer actually doesnt have a tranny dipstick. Is that true?
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[*] posted on 12-29-2013 at 08:06 AM


Hook, Your right, NO dip stick. And much of what I've researched says it maybe the valve body gasket and that what i hope it is.



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[*] posted on 12-29-2013 at 10:43 AM


Russ, I think that Jaime in Santa Rosalia is much better equipped and trained to do that kind of work. He is up by the Telmex office. I have a number if you are interested.



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[*] posted on 12-29-2013 at 12:06 PM


Yes Please

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Russ, I think that Jaime in Santa Rosalia is much better equipped and trained to do that kind of work. He is up by the Telmex office. I have a number if you are interested.




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[*] posted on 12-29-2013 at 12:49 PM


Also, there is Alphonso, the tranny guy in the 3bay garage, east side of highway just north of town, just past the car wash. Mulege



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[*] posted on 12-29-2013 at 01:16 PM


NIX NIX NIX the idea of yanking the tranny. The Ford dealer in La Paz has a computer diagnostic machine for transmissions BUT Mexican cars use a different control system and servos (and ECU).

The ECU and sensors can cause horrible control problems. It's worse than a waste of time to try to allow a mechanic who does not rebuild regular transmissions never mind an ECU (electronic computer controlled unit) try and figure this out.

If you cover the basic checks, listed above and have no joy, my opinion is to head north. Baby the hell out of the tranny climbing La Cuesta del Diablo outside of Sta Rosalia. Stop in San Ignacio and pull the dipstick. Is is smoking hot? The trip ends there. Stop again, and do the same thing in Guerrero, and Cataviña. Check the temperature of the dip stick. It will be hot but not insanely so. Keep you speed down on the highway. Check the rear of the vehicle for spots of tranny oil which is a bad sign. End of trip time.

I wouldn't want to try a transmission overhaul in Mulege any more than I would a kidney transplant.




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[*] posted on 12-29-2013 at 01:18 PM


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they don't build em like they used to. plastic parts in an engine timing belt usually snaps on the explorers after 70,000 miles


Our 2000 4.0 Explorer has 260,000 miles and the engine has never been touched except for intake manifold gasket and a thermostat housing. Tranny was replaced under warranty very early on and has been trouble free since. BTW, our tranny does have a dipstick.
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[*] posted on 12-29-2013 at 01:45 PM


DavidE , Thanks. That's pretty scary stuff. I hadn't planned to have the trans dropped. I am going to check the fluid and pull the neg battery terminal and let it sit over night and then go thru the procedure to let the computers reload. Then I'll take it into either Mulege or SR and have them drop the pan and check for any metal or other junk that would tell me the trans is messed up. If it's clean then I'll have them pull & clean the valve body and put every thing back together and limp home or take the truck up and get parts. That's today's plan.
I do appreciate all your comments.... thanks
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Of what I'm reading this tranny is 2002 on and is a 5 speed, no dip stick. I'll call Ford and ask to talk to a tranny tech also.

[Edited on 12-29-2013 by Russ]




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[*] posted on 12-29-2013 at 03:40 PM


If you need to go north for a tranny or major hard parts, first stop in Sta Rosalia at ADUANA (the port dept) with a letter from a mechanic stating clearly NO HAY REFRACCIONES EN MEXICO PARA ESTE MODELO

This will serve to get you back through the border tax free. Of course the aduaneros may IMPLY the passage through their office may be a little faster with a tip. Use your judgement.

The only complete transmissions for a Ford that are dynamometer tested to work correctly are genuine Ford remaunufactured transmissions.

A squeal can mean a "belt" or it can mean a ready-to-fail bushing. Try driving the car with the transmission selector set to ignore "overdrive". If the squeal and blinking light go away it is a hopeful sign. If not, the transmission definitely has a "control" problem. The transmission may be seeking to run in overdrive and direct high gear at the same time. Needless to say this would be a "code blue" emergency. Try operating the car in 2nd gear. If it works OK, i can tell you getting home at 40 mph is a hell of a lot better than on the end of a hook.

La Paz is not a choice option. The mechanic is only so-so transmission savvy and the parts department looks like field mice have emptied it.

Check before you do a damned thing, to see if the fluid for this model transmission is available in Mulege. Some newer ATF must be used, such as synthetic or in my Dodge or failure will occur in a few thousand miles. Ford is the resource for accuracy. Your owner's manual would be reliable.

Gobs of black goo on a transmission pan consist of clutch and band friction material. Brass for bushings and steel shavings for pump gouges. No transmission with your mileage will be free of goo or shavings but there is a limit that is "permissible". Anything that would clog a valve body orifice would have to be shaved off the transmission after the filter. Look at the filter element. Is it fabric or screen? A screen is likely to suck up garbage send it to the pump then from there onto the torque and control systems.

The "squeal" part bothers me.




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