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cliffh
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Agua Verde road report ?
Has any one been in last 30 days? thanks
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David K
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Did you see TW's report? He talked about it: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=70830
"Saturday it was on the road to Mulege and the pig roast at the Serenidad hotel. Along the way I was interested in how the road paving into Agua Verde
was doing. As of now no paving just road grading etc. as seen from hwy 1"
Here's another thread with comments about the road last month: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=70823
"I haven't driven down the AV road recently but friends there report lots of road work being done on the first stretch including grading and I believe
paving. Most of the way to AV is still slow going however."
Nomad Search to the rescue!
[Edited on 1-3-2014 by David K]
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motoged
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Wait a week and I will tell ya 
I hope to camp over and also check out the bottom entrance to the road leading out of the sand was just before AV that leads to Ciudad
Constitucion....that's if I do some more riding and less "vacationing"...
Don't believe everything you think....
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cliffh
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thanks for the info. and report from Motoged when re returns. thanks Cliff
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Baja Bucko
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Came from Agua Verde, headed to San Javier, just a few weeks ago while riding La Mula Mil from San Jose del Cabo north to eventually Tecate.
Arrived at Agua Verde via the coastline from R. Los Dolores after crossing the peninsula from waaay north of Todos Santos at the Pacific Ocean. MAJOR
work going on and TONS of huge equipment at work night and day preparing the road for paving. I do not recommend driving into or out of at night
because the detour set-ups are really "guess which way and where" in many spots. Pulling a trailer can be done but not mine.
Yes, the paving is on its way.
[Edited on 1-4-2014 by Baja Bucko]
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elfbrewery
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I'm not sure where your path was "Agua Verde via the coastline from R. Los Dolores."
Did you take a boat? (tee hee)
Thanks for a reply.
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David K
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There is a mission trail (a branch of El Camino Real) along the coast from the 1720's... Marv and Aletha Patchen (and others) wrote about it... "We
Hiked a Mission Trail" I recall was the story name... and Marv also published it in his book:
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Baja Bucko
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ElfBrewery--I was on a mule...get it? La Mula Mil? The Mule 1000? Once we hit R. Los Dolores, we rode up the coast to Agua Verde on mules.
So the only way to get to R. Los Dolores is either by feet of some sort or a panga......
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TMW
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Baja Bucko do you ride for long periods or do you walk part of the time. I've never rode horse back for more than an hours or two when I was much
younger.
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Kencito
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I just drove back from Rancho San Cosme on the AV road this Saturday. Yes, the first few miles from Highway 1 are paved. However, for some reason you
can't drive on it yet but have to drive along the sides on passable but slow going dirt lanes. A lot of folks ignore the detour signs and just drive
on the new paved part anyway. In response the gov't has added dirt piles to make that harder but not impossible for various stretches. In any case a
normal car could still take the side roads.
Supposedly the paved part is going to get another layer of asphalt to top it off.
But when? Depends on who you ask. Some say soon, others say the money has already run out. Quien Sabe? No work was happening Saturday.
After the paved part the road is in as good as shape as I've ever seen. A great area to explore and enjoy.
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Baja Bucko
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for TW
TW-----well, on the first half of la Mula Mil in November ('13) there were a few days of moving animals with a cowboy or 2 where I rode HARD for over
10 hours...all dirt road riding for the most part, trying to get from waay west of the paved highway east and north of Todos Santos to the otherside
---going east and north eventually to R. Los Dolores on the gulf coast. That was tough especially since I'd been riding over 21 days w only a couple
of days of rest early on. We rode in to the dark of night and I was pretty much just barely able to unload animals and crash for the night...in a
place where the rattlers were very alive and active!! I actually got off and walked in the dark here for a few kilometers because I hurt so bad
(which helped) UNTIL I had the up-close-and-personal rattlesnake family adventure. Then I KNEW at THAT MOMENT, I did NOT belong on the ground but was
too damn exhausted to get back in the saddle....my legs were like spaghetti. It was one of the most difficult physical and mental moments I have ever
experienced. I almost quit the trip.
That said, I am glad that I did stay on as the first 500 miles of la mula mil is one of the most incredible things I have accomplished-I call it the
agony and the ecstacy.
Most other days were several hours in the am, afternoon break for animals, and a few more in the evening, always looking for the night spot that had
either food or water for the mules. MANY long days.......ibuprofen is my friend.
On my other trips (not mula mil) I've ridden from 4-6 hours one day and twice that or more others. You know mules, horses you can get moving at a
good rate. Mules just GET YOU THERE safe and sound...slowly.
I will be 63 soon and you have to keep doin' this stuff while the body parts allow. I have my inspiration from my dear friend, Eve Ewing, who still
was able to ride the first 10 days of la Mula Mil from San Jose del Cabo and she is over 75!!!. She started on this stuff a few years before me and
I've only been riding Baja California since 1969.
I will return to finish up the last one quarter of la mula mil in a few weeks, hitting Tecate in March. I have already ridden the route from San
Ignacio/San Casimero to Catavina in the past which they are starting this week so I will have completed my own personal "best" of over 1000 miles by
mule on the peninsula.
As an added note, I bring my own saddle and gear so everything fits "like a friend, with no secrets left to tell" (stolen from a song!). No surprises
just different mule personalities.
Now riding cross country or el camino real is another story-there is no going fast there and the ole' 4WD (4-legged type) really keeps one alive and
in one piece! ECR can be one tough you-know-what.....
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TMW
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Wow, what can I say. Tough going for sure and it's the saddle backs like you that make us humble for sure. Thanks and hang in there.
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Mulegena
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Teddy and Eve are living legends of Baja backcountry history.
Simply said, I admire the heck out of you women!
"Raise your words, not your voice. It's rain that grows flowers, not thunder." ~Rumi
"It's the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." ~ Aristotle
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Baja Bucko
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Mulegena
Don't forget Trudi...she's got the mule miles that put me to shame!
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Mulegena
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Baja Bucko
Don't forget Trudi...she's got the mule miles that put me to shame! |
Absolutely. Thanks and good travelin'
to you all, La Mula Mil Mujeres.
"Raise your words, not your voice. It's rain that grows flowers, not thunder." ~Rumi
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motoged
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I rode my moto into Agua Verde today and here are my road impressions:
After a great Huevos Rancheros at the store-cocina at the corner of the AV road and the highway, I was immediately confronted with a barrier to the
new paved road and took the detour/side road....for 20 feet and saw vehicle tracks onto the pavement, so I rode on and off paved sections until the
paved sections ended whenever I could.
Locals have done the same and there are numerous on/off tracks created that bypass mounds of dirt or rocks barricading access to the pavement.
The pavement ends at what I will call the south end of the alto-plano section....others will consider this the place where the last two ranchos are
situated on the south side of the road shortly before the road approaches the cliffside section.
The detour/side road is generally in good shape and I believe could be negotiated with any average sized car ...no real clearance issues, ruts, silt
beds, or slides to worry about....and it crosses the pavement from one side to the other in many places. It is a typical doubletrack sand/gravel/rock
road that many Baja folks are used to when plunking into places you want to see.
The pavement looks mostly like a "first layer" of asphalt....or is a poor paving job if it is the final layer.
The road past the paved sections is in very good condition....and the cliffside road was also in good condition.....as it was to Agua Verde.
I would not hesitate to travel it by 2 wheel drive anything...but would not want to pull a trailer of anything unless it was essential.
I made a helmet cam video of the entire trip in that turned out well but haven't posted it yet....probably will figure that out back in Canada in a
few weeks.
[Edited on 1-11-2014 by motoged]
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ligui
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Motoged , looking forward to seeing that video , havn't driven AV road for awhile but loved it .
Anybody have some pics they could share ? Need a baja fix , getting tired of the cold and snow . 
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motoged
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Ligui,
Now that I am only taking video of my adventures, I hope to post this ride and others once I am back home (and over my post-Baja withdrawal depression
 ) I plan on posting the best ones once I figure out how to do it...
Ged
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ligui
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Thanks , have a great trip ! 
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Desertbull
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The dirt trail from Agua Verde to Constitution through the canyon is currently impassable on dirt bikes, I know, sounds crazy, but the trail is
literally cut away by with 60-80 foot drop offs that were impassable as of January 2.
DREAM IT! PLAN IT! LIVE IT!
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