BajaNomad
Not logged in [Login - Register]

Go To Bottom
Printable Version  
 Pages:  1    3  ..  6
Author: Subject: up goes the price of Pemex gas
bacquito
Super Nomad
****




Posts: 1615
Registered: 3-6-2007
Member Is Offline

Mood: jubilado

[*] posted on 2-1-2014 at 06:53 PM
up goes the price of Pemex gas


http://www.ensenada.net/noticias/nota.php?id=32997

It is hard to believe Mexico is raising the price of gas when the price is falling in the USA and will probably continue to fall.




bacquito
View user's profile
David K
Honored Nomad
*********


Avatar


Posts: 65087
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
Member Is Offline

Mood: Have Baja Fever

[*] posted on 2-1-2014 at 07:11 PM


Mexico vs. USA:
Pemex is the Mexican Government Monopoly on fuel production, distribution and pricing. Socialism uses no logic, and they will nearly if not totally destroy something before returning control to the people that know better.

While it is 'popular' to talk smack about oil corporations in the USA, it is because of them we have fuel in our cars and homes everywhere in the country... and if not for our government's greed by profiting off the oil (more so than oil companies), the price would be close to $2/ gal.




"So Much Baja, So Little Time..."

See the NEW www.VivaBaja.com for maps, travel articles, links, trip photos, and more!
Baja Missions and History On Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/bajamissions/
Camping, off-roading, Viva Baja discussion: https://www.facebook.com/groups/vivabaja


View user's profile Visit user's homepage
akshadow
Nomad
**




Posts: 287
Registered: 2-1-2007
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 2-1-2014 at 07:19 PM
price fixing


Since the price was "fixed" at an artificially low price we should all expect it to go up with no relationship to competition. It is and will be a money maker for the government.
need to expect the "bad" with the "good"




Ron San Felipe Oct, Nov. Feb. Mar. April. remainder in Juneau Ak
View user's profile
Ateo
Elite Nomad
******




Posts: 5912
Registered: 7-18-2011
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 2-1-2014 at 07:25 PM


I know a couple gas station on the USA side that are reaping the benefits of lower priced USA gas lately!
View user's profile
J.P.
Super Nomad
****




Posts: 1673
Registered: 7-8-2010
Location: Punta Banda
Member Is Offline

Mood: Easy Does It

[*] posted on 2-1-2014 at 07:45 PM


Quote:
Originally posted by David K
Mexico vs. USA:
Pemex is the Mexican Government Monopoly on fuel production, distribution and pricing. Socialism uses no logic, and they will nearly if not totally destroy something before returning control to the people that know better.

While it is 'popular' to talk smack about oil corporations in the USA, it is because of them we have fuel in our cars and homes everywhere in the country... and if not for our government's greed by profiting off the oil (more so than oil companies), the price would be close to $2/ gal.






For years the Government of Mexico kept the price Low to advance the working People of Mexico. This new Regime don't care about the People.:?::?:
View user's profile
Howard
Super Nomad
****




Posts: 2353
Registered: 11-13-2007
Location: Loreto/Manhattan Beach/Kona
Member Is Offline

Mood: I'd rather regret the things I've done than regret the things I haven't done.

[*] posted on 2-1-2014 at 08:17 PM


Today, going South, filled up twice, El Rosario and Vizcaino and it was the same, 12.4 pesos per liter and at 13 pesos to the $ that comes to approx. $3.61 a gallon. Everybody is in a different financial situation but for me, no sniveling and happy that it is not much higher. It's not going to keep me from Baja but feel sorry for the local people.




We don't stop playing because we grow old;
we grow old because we stop playing
George Bernard Shaw






View user's profile
DENNIS
Platinum Nomad
********




Posts: 29510
Registered: 9-2-2006
Location: Punta Banda
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 2-1-2014 at 08:25 PM


Quote:
Originally posted by akshadow
It is and will be a money maker for the government.



Not to mention the great tax collector, the government, and only purveyor of gas an fuel, will raise taxes on it's one and only commodity as need for money dictates.
What's wrong with this picture? :?:




"YOU CAN'T LITTER ALUMINUM"
View user's profile
Bajaboy
Ultra Nomad
*****




Posts: 4375
Registered: 10-9-2003
Location: Bahia Asuncion, BCS, Mexico
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 2-1-2014 at 09:17 PM


Quote:
Originally posted by David K
Mexico vs. USA:
Pemex is the Mexican Government Monopoly on fuel production, distribution and pricing. Socialism uses no logic, and they will nearly if not totally destroy something before returning control to the people that know better.

While it is 'popular' to talk smack about oil corporations in the USA, it is because of them we have fuel in our cars and homes everywhere in the country... and if not for our government's greed by profiting off the oil (more so than oil companies), the price would be close to $2/ gal.


David, difference between US and Mexico is that Mexico subsidized the cost of gasoline to the benefit of the people. The US subsidizes Big Oil for the benefit of big oil:fire:




View user's profile
willardguy
Elite Nomad
******




Posts: 6451
Registered: 9-19-2009
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 2-1-2014 at 09:31 PM


mexico amended their constitution to allow private investment in pemex this year, does this make you, uh, aficionados happy?
View user's profile
Sandlefoot
Nomad
**


Avatar


Posts: 220
Registered: 10-31-2011
Location: La Paz
Member Is Offline

Mood: Home

[*] posted on 2-1-2014 at 09:43 PM


Quote:
Originally posted by Bajaboy
Quote:
Originally posted by David K
Mexico vs. USA:
Pemex is the Mexican Government Monopoly on fuel production, distribution and pricing. Socialism uses no logic, and they will nearly if not totally destroy something before returning control to the people that know better.

While it is 'popular' to talk smack about oil corporations in the USA, it is because of them we have fuel in our cars and homes everywhere in the country... and if not for our government's greed by profiting off the oil (more so than oil companies), the price would be close to $2/ gal.


David, difference between US and Mexico is that Mexico subsidized the cost of gasoline to the benefit of the people. The US subsidizes Big Oil for the benefit of big oil:fire:



The U.S. subsidizes big oil to maintain their own interest in it.
"Big Oil" makes $.062 on each dollar I spend for gas, U.S. taxes takes in only $.495! Big oil get 6 cents on every dollar I spend and government get 49 cents on that same gallon!!! :fire: This is one reason the price is high. The breakdown can be found @:https://www.google.com.mx/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CC0QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fenergyansw ered.org%2Fquestions%2Fhow-much-do-oil-companies-make-on-each-dollar-i-spend-on-gas&ei=LsrtUqbPNaf52wXPuIHoDg&usg=AFQjCNFv09ytJZdISnWwQWT9xnIQ 6GWtJg&bvm=bv.60444564,d.b2I

(Copy the entire address and paste in to your browser and it will work)

Happy Trails

[Edited on 2-2-2014 by Sandlefoot]

[Edited on 2-2-2014 by Sandlefoot]

[Edited on 2-2-2014 by Sandlefoot]




" Don't find fault, find a remedy; anyone can complain." Henry Ford

If you are not living on the edge...you are taking up to much space!

Just because it may not be a good idea does not mean it will not be fun!!!

View user's profile
luv2fish
Nomad
**




Posts: 455
Registered: 5-8-2011
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 2-4-2014 at 01:32 PM


Quote:
Originally posted by bacquito
http://www.ensenada.net/noticias/nota.php?id=32997

It is hard to believe Mexico is raising the price of gas when the price is falling in the USA and will probably continue to fall.


I wonder if this has anything to do with the price hike?? Sounds like maybe Pemex is in need of more revenue, but if that were the case why not drop the price a bit and that would boost sales ?? http://www.afntijuana.info/informacion_general/24977_pemex_v...
View user's profile
captkw
Ultra Nomad
*****




Posts: 3850
Registered: 10-19-2010
Location: el charro b.c.s.
Member Is Offline

Mood: new dog/missing the old 1

[*] posted on 2-4-2014 at 01:43 PM
pemex


The extra cost is so they can fix up the bathrooms...LOL..want to buy a bridge ??
View user's profile
CortezBlue
Super Nomad
****


Avatar


Posts: 2213
Registered: 11-14-2006
Location: Fenix/San Phelipe
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 2-4-2014 at 01:50 PM


It doesn't matter, Pemex will soon be flying free and we will start seeing Exxon, BP and other gas stations popping up in Mexico.

:o




“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.”
- Albert Einstein

Follow Cortez Blue
www.cortezblue.com

We put the FUNK in disFUNKtion
View user's profile Visit user's homepage
pacificobob
Super Nomad
****




Posts: 2318
Registered: 4-23-2006
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 2-4-2014 at 02:02 PM


Quote:
Originally posted by Bajaboy
Quote:
Originally posted by David K
Mexico vs. USA:
Pemex is the Mexican Government Monopoly on fuel production, distribution and pricing. Socialism uses no logic, and they will nearly if not totally destroy something before returning control to the people that know better.

While it is 'popular' to talk smack about oil corporations in the USA, it is because of them we have fuel in our cars and homes everywhere in the country... and if not for our government's greed by profiting off the oil (more so than oil companies), the price would be close to $2/ gal.


David, difference between US and Mexico is that Mexico subsidized the cost of gasoline to the benefit of the people. The US subsidizes Big Oil for the benefit of big oil:fire:
well said, and quite correct.
View user's profile
DENNIS
Platinum Nomad
********




Posts: 29510
Registered: 9-2-2006
Location: Punta Banda
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 2-4-2014 at 02:05 PM


Quote:
Originally posted by CortezBlue
It doesn't matter, Pemex will soon be flying free and we will start seeing Exxon, BP and other gas stations popping up in Mexico.

:o



Maybe not. PEMEX is more to Mexico than an oil company. It's a national icon expropriated from the greedy hands of foreigners, and remains a symbol of independence and freedom.
PEMEX won't be quietly surrendered by the rank and file to foreign interests in the future without cloaking the investments in so many layers of constitutional gibberish as to make it indecipherable.

What would Mexico do with Expropriation Day if Standard Oil bought out PEMEX?




"YOU CAN'T LITTER ALUMINUM"
View user's profile
mtgoat666
Select Nomad
*******




Posts: 19244
Registered: 9-16-2006
Location: San Diego
Member Is Offline

Mood: Hot n spicy

[*] posted on 2-4-2014 at 02:15 PM


Quote:
Originally posted by David K
Mexico vs. USA:
Pemex is the Mexican Government Monopoly on fuel production, distribution and pricing. Socialism uses no logic,...


the socialists use logic, youjust happen to disagree with their logic!

there is nothing wrong with government using taxes or pricing to shape public policy.
what's wrong with mexico setting gas at high prices to accomplish their own goals?
you probably benefit from government freebies like mortgage interest tax deduction and dependant tax deduction and health care expense deductions,... those tax deductions are just government social engineering disguised as tax deductions!
View user's profile
mtgoat666
Select Nomad
*******




Posts: 19244
Registered: 9-16-2006
Location: San Diego
Member Is Offline

Mood: Hot n spicy

[*] posted on 2-4-2014 at 02:20 PM


Quote:
Originally posted by Bajaboy
Quote:
Originally posted by David K
Mexico vs. USA:
Pemex is the Mexican Government Monopoly on fuel production, distribution and pricing. Socialism uses no logic, and they will nearly if not totally destroy something before returning control to the people that know better.

While it is 'popular' to talk smack about oil corporations in the USA, it is because of them we have fuel in our cars and homes everywhere in the country... and if not for our government's greed by profiting off the oil (more so than oil companies), the price would be close to $2/ gal.


David, difference between US and Mexico is that Mexico subsidized the cost of gasoline to the benefit of the people. The US subsidizes Big Oil for the benefit of big oil:fire:


dk does not understand how we the people truly subsidize big oil in the USA! big oil has bought every politician in wash dc, and has rewritten tax code to suit it's special interests... dk: you pay higher taxes because big oil does not pay fair share of taxes!
View user's profile
chuckie
Elite Nomad
******




Posts: 6082
Registered: 2-20-2012
Location: Kansas Prairies
Member Is Offline

Mood: Weary

[*] posted on 2-4-2014 at 02:56 PM


Thanks Goat, now I understand...

[Edited on 2-4-2014 by chuckie]




View user's profile
Pescador
Ultra Nomad
*****


Avatar


Posts: 3587
Registered: 10-17-2002
Location: Baja California Sur
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 2-4-2014 at 05:25 PM


When the goat speaks about economic matters, it is certain that you are about to be enlightened in a socialistic way. I can only imagine what the country he would design would look like. Let's see, China, Venezuela, Cuba, etc., and the list goes on.



View user's profile
David K
Honored Nomad
*********


Avatar


Posts: 65087
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
Member Is Offline

Mood: Have Baja Fever

[*] posted on 2-4-2014 at 07:56 PM


Funny how some people think wealth comes from government... when it is just the opposite. People create wealth and government takes it away.

Capitalism creates the most opportunity and socialism has failed everywhere it has been tried.

Up with ALL Business (big and small) and down with Big Government!:light:




"So Much Baja, So Little Time..."

See the NEW www.VivaBaja.com for maps, travel articles, links, trip photos, and more!
Baja Missions and History On Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/bajamissions/
Camping, off-roading, Viva Baja discussion: https://www.facebook.com/groups/vivabaja


View user's profile Visit user's homepage
 Pages:  1    3  ..  6

  Go To Top

 






All Content Copyright 1997- Q87 International; All Rights Reserved.
Powered by XMB; XMB Forum Software © 2001-2014 The XMB Group






"If it were lush and rich, one could understand the pull, but it is fierce and hostile and sullen. The stone mountains pile up to the sky and there is little fresh water. But we know we must go back if we live, and we don't know why." - Steinbeck, Log from the Sea of Cortez

 

"People don't care how much you know, until they know how much you care." - Theodore Roosevelt

 

"You can easily judge the character of others by how they treat those who they think can do nothing for them or to them." - Malcolm Forbes

 

"Let others lead small lives, but not you. Let others argue over small things, but not you. Let others cry over small hurts, but not you. Let others leave their future in someone else's hands, but not you." - Jim Rohn

 

"The best way to get the right answer on the internet is not to ask a question; it's to post the wrong answer." - Cunningham's Law







Thank you to Baja Bound Mexico Insurance Services for your long-term support of the BajaNomad.com Forums site.







Emergency Baja Contacts Include:

Desert Hawks; El Rosario-based ambulance transport; Emergency #: (616) 103-0262