noshoes
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Favorite Baja ride
New years eve 2000. My favorite way to see Mexico.
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bajadogs
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I like it too.
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David K
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That's beautiful. Before 1973 a lot of Hwy. 1 looked close to that!
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motoged
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One of my fave's ...
Don't believe everything you think....
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MulegeAL
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Russ
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San Jaunico back to Mulege
[Edited on 2-24-2014 by Russ]
Bahia Concepcion where life starts...given a chance!
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bajadogs
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motoged
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.... and another favourite ride...
Don't believe everything you think....
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bacquito
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Great photos, thanks!
bacquito
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From Mission San Borja to Rancho San Gregorio
A man never stands as tall as when he kneels to help a child.
Knights of Pythagoras
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for a little while - Bad Blake
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David K
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Now THAT'S a Cardón! So tall it couldn't fit in the picture!
See the camper? It's at the end of the road from San Borja. Photo taken from trail to San Gregorio... big cardón country...
The old abandond rancho is reached by a 0.4 mile foot trail up a ravine. N 28°39.824' W113°39.930' elev.2,417' Compare this to a 60 year old photo in
the Lower California Guidebook (pg.127) when the ranch was operating.
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Skipjack Joe
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Quote: | Originally posted by Oggie
From Mission San Borja to Rancho San Gregorio
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I would like to do that one. I hear they grow uvas at San Gregorio. It would be great to sit in their shade for a bit.
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motoged
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North of La Ballena....
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Blair
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Blair in El Cajon
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Blair in El Cajon
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Blair,
Where is that pic taken???
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wessongroup
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Thanks much ...
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motoged, that pic is coming down the hill into San Evaristo. La Paz is about 80 miles south of there.
Blair in El Cajon
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David K
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Isla San José in the background... Very beautiful Blair, thank you!
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David K
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Quote: | Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
Quote: | Originally posted by Oggie
From Mission San Borja to Rancho San Gregorio
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It is very possible you are thinking of another Rancho San Gregorio (in the Sierra de San Francisco)?
The one here is near Mission San Borja... Here is a post from 2009 showing more of the ranch site that may date back to mission times (note the cut
stone blocks):
It is interesting to compare photos taken many years apart, as we have seen with the 1966 vs. 2009 photos at Choral Pepper's 'Lost Mission' ruins near
Las Animas.
Rancho San Gregorio is an old ranch that was built on the Golfo Camino Real, 8.6 miles southeast of Mision San Borja.
The auto road ends 1/4 mile short of the ranch... a short hike on the mission trail brings you to the small oasis in the desert.
In August of 1960, Howard Gulick researching for his third edition of the Lower California Guidebook took the first three photos... one was published
in his book.
First, here's Howard Gulick's map of the region... note the road between San Borja and San Gregorio:
In April, 2001 with Neal Johns, Amo Pescar, and my son Chris we visited the now abandoned rancho. We noticed that the foundation of the adobe ranch
house was on blocks of cut stone. This is very much an indication of mission-era construction... and being at an oasis, San Gregorio was likely a way
station or visita of the mission at San Borja.
Near the ranch were terraced and filled growing fields:
Walking back to Amo's truck/camper... it is parked at the end of the road from San Borja:
Near the truck, was another from a past time... that never left!:
Here is the 2003 topo of the area:
I have GPS data if anyone would like more details on visiting this ranch from the past!
VIVA BAJA!
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