David K
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Toyota diesel
There are a lot of Tacoma people hoping for a diesel too... wondering if it will come when they finally make the Third Generation Tacoma (body
redesign). They also want the Toyota Hilux truck instead of the Tacoma...
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Considering the price of diesel fuel, the increased complexity of modern diesel engines, and the increased maintenance costs associated with them, I
can no longer see any benefit to owning them. It's true that they get better fuel economy, but when you factor in the increased cost of the vehicle
and all the other expenses, I would guess the cost per mile is much higher now for a diesel vehicle than a gas one.
"The future ain't what it used to be"
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larryC
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I agree with mono, I have had diesel trucks since 1980 and now that the costs are so high I doubt that I would buy another one. Not enough benefits.
Larry
Off grid, 12-190 watt evergreen solar panels on solar trackers, 2-3648 stacked Outback inverters, 610ah LiFePo4 48v battery bank, FM 60 and MX60
Outback charge controllers, X-240 Outback transformer for 240v from inverters, 6500 watt Kubota diesel generator.
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wessongroup
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Got one in 76, think it was around $0.21 ... .. .think gas was around $.65-.70, those were the days ... the wife HATED the diesel .. especially when
filling up 
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TMW
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I've never owned a diesel car/truck but have had diesel powered generators and diesel fuel can be a mess. It's my understanding that people who like
diesel are usually pulling a large RV and that's where the diesel really shines.
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aguachico
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Diesel kicks ass. Hence the move of all top manufacturers in the US offering what's been available globally for decades. Small diesel vehicles. The
blimpin emission controls forced on them have been the bump in the road, but that will soon change.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2014/02/23/long-las...
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edm1
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Love my diesels - a 93 vintage Cummins in my motorhome, a 95 vintage Dodge Cummins Dually 3500, and my latest acquisition a 97 VW Passat TDI sedan
which does 45 mpg all day long. If not for the 10c per gallon premium for debit card use, i won't hate fuel stops. I stash a bunch of cash in my
pocket for fuel nowadays. Screw the banks.
Btw, All of the above are emissions-test exempt!
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edm1
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| Quote: | Originally posted by aguachico
Diesel kicks burro. Hence the move of all top manufacturers in the US offering what's been available globally for decades. Small diesel vehicles. The
blimpin emission controls forced on them have been the bump in the road, but that will soon change.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2014/02/23/long-las... |
Where's Dodge in the list?
I have 270k miles on my Dodge Cummins and it's just broken in.
My VW TDI has almost 400k miles and runs like new.
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David K
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Hi Art... good to see you out there!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by larryC
I agree with mono, I have had diesel trucks since 1980 and now that the costs are so high I doubt that I would buy another one. Not enough benefits.
Larry |
Agree with this. I just made a trip to Baja in a diesel powered RV, and for this size vehicle diesel makes sense. However, later model diesels all
require DEF, diesel emissions fuel, which is in a separate tank and is separate from the main diesel fuel and is an emissions requirement in the US
now. Mexico does not require this fuel for emissions, and consequently it is scarce and few places carry it or have heard of it, so for now you have
to carry your own. I don't know if the smaller diesels coming up will need this, but would bet they probably will, so plan on adding about 5 bucks a
gallon for DEF as an added expense to all of the other mentioned expenses. My RV uses about 10 gallons DEF/300 gallons of diesel fuel which seems
about typical from talking with other users. All of the truck stops in the US have DEF pumps right along side the diesel pumps. Walmart sells it in
2.5 gallon container for 12 bucks.
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edm1
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Hi Art... good to see you out there! |
Ola David, I ended up buying a property at Cajon Summit, at 4000ft.
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by edm1
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Hi Art... good to see you out there! |
Ola David, I ended up buying a property at Cajon Summit, at 4000ft. |
Like along the 15 towards Hesperia??? That's between Neal Johns and John M.
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rts551
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Since the 80'sowned ford diesels. Finally this year made the move to gas and switched from Ford. 15 miles later I'm happy and that is all that
matters.
Wonder if Toyota will get the message soon. Their Tacoma and Tundra were ranked at the bottom of the 2014 Consumers Reports Best cars ranking that
came out this month.
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edm1
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
| Quote: | Originally posted by edm1
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Hi Art... good to see you out there! |
Ola David, I ended up buying a property at Cajon Summit, at 4000ft. |
Like along the 15 towards Hesperia??? That's between Neal Johns and John M. |
Yup, Oak Hills. It's 2 miles off the 15.
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David K
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Great! Hope to visit you guys when you're settled in.
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725,000 miles getting 20 miles a gallon with the majority of this trucks' miles on the dirt roads of Baja. Got my money out of this beauty about
500,000 miles ago.
DREAM IT! PLAN IT! LIVE IT!
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Desertbull
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725,000 miles getting 20 miles a gallon with the majority of this trucks' miles on the dirt roads of Baja. Got my money out of this beauty about
500,000 miles ago.
4WD Dodge Ram Cummins ....
DREAM IT! PLAN IT! LIVE IT!
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wessongroup
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Would say so ..
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rts551
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My experience has been with Ford and Ram diesels that the rest of the truck dies before the motor goes.
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