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bajabrant
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pemex bandits
i'll start it off---pass up mulege for fuel--short liters--any others to avoid ?
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KaceyJ
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FWIW
We just filled jerry cans at the Pemex just North of the marina in Santa Rosalia and 19 liters brought it right up to the 5 gal. line
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David K
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The northern-most two Pemex stations in Santa Rosalia are questionable, but the one at the north side of the harbor was good. The original Pemex
(across the highway from the harbor) was so bad it had been closed down...
San Ignacio is suspect as in the one in Loreto along the road into town... supposedly owned by the same bandito as has the bad ones in Santa Rosalia.
That said, maybe a list of the for sure honest Pemex stations is a shorter list:
#1 Baja Cactus Pemex, El Rosario!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by KaceyJ
We just filled jerry cans at the Pemex just North of the marina in Santa Rosalia and 19 liters brought it right up to the 5 gal. line
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3 ounces missing, I would call this "almost honest". Was it the one with fancy new store attached?
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DENNIS
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It just won't be the same any more. Getting rid of gas station crooks will be like getting rid of enchiladas. 
"YOU CAN'T LITTER ALUMINUM"
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I wouldn't kiss-off the enchiladas anytime soon amigo.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DavidE
I wouldn't kiss-off the enchiladas anytime soon amigo. |
I don't know, David. With the price of gas rising regularly, people are starting to feel the pain.
The constant mordida crap for the locals will be getting much needed popular attention one of these days as well. Can't wait for that backlash.
"YOU CAN'T LITTER ALUMINUM"
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Udo
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I'm all in favor of listing the honest gas stations in Baja.
I'm with DK...
Let's start with:
Baja Cactus,..
BTW...there is now a Facebook page that addresses the short changers. It has been posted that the local municipality that the PEMEX is in, can not do
anything about the dishonesty of a gas station.
I will mention, however, that the main PEMEX on Mex1 in Loreto is pretty bad on their liter count. I know we were on fumes in the FJ. The book says
the FJ holds a 16.5 gallon tank, but somehow the station managed to put in 21 gallons or just short of 80 liters.
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Ateo
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I hope all of us will let the station know if their pumps are over-dispensing. It happens in the USA. South of the border you would think it would
happen from time to time too!!!
Honesty goes both ways. 
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dasubergeek
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Udo
I will mention, however, that the main PEMEX on Mex1 in Loreto is pretty bad on their liter count. I know we were on fumes in the FJ. The book says
the FJ holds a 16.5 gallon tank, but somehow the station managed to put in 21 gallons or just short of 80 liters. |
This happened to me on Mex3 in San Antonio de las Minas... more liters than my tank holds. I called over a patrulla who happened to be there, showed
the Spanish version of my truck's manual, and refused to pay the overage.
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Cliffy
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It would be a huge help if all you "residents" down along Baja would contribute to this thread and note the good Pamex stations that are in your area.
I have notes gleaned from pages and pages of reading here that I will codify into a list, as soon as I have time, to add to this thread.
Thanks, this is a worthwhile endeavor for everyone!
Is the mantra- "look for a station loaded with locals, avoid any station without local plates in it" ?
I'M ALSO GOING TO MARK A GAS CAN HERE IN THE STATES TO SEE JUST HOW ACCURATE OUR STATIONS ARE BEFORE I GET TO BAJA NEXT MONTH.
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Russ
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Yes, The one on the water side. There are two the southerly one with the store has been good to me. Clean restrooms and a fairly well stocked store
for travel goods. Also takes credit cards but no idea about charges or exchange rates. I have not tried the other one on the water side.
| Quote: | Originally posted by Alm
| Quote: | Originally posted by KaceyJ
We just filled jerry cans at the Pemex just North of the marina in Santa Rosalia and 19 liters brought it right up to the 5 gal. line
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3 ounces missing, I would call this "almost honest". Was it the one with fancy new store attached? |
Bahia Concepcion where life starts...given a chance!
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KaceyJ
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Russ
Yes, The one on the water side. There are two the southerly one with the store has been good to me. Clean restrooms and a fairly well stocked store
for travel goods. Also takes credit cards but no idea about charges or exchange rates. I have not tried the other one on the water side.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by KaceyJ
We just filled jerry cans at the Pemex just North of the marina in Santa Rosalia and 19 liters brought it right up to the 5 gal. line
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3 ounces missing, I would call this "almost honest". Was it the one with fancy new store attached? |
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Close enough to not question it , I'm not going to carry around a graduated cylinder for accurate measurement
More importantly is the particular stations exchange rate , they can set it to whatever they want.
Antonio always gives the fairest exchange, approaching the daily bank rate so I don't hesitate to use gringo dineros there but in Cachinia right now
you'll only get 11 to 1 so that makes the price pergallon appx $4.30 for magna and $4.53 for diesel. So best to use pesos
12.5pesos/l X 3.785l/Gal X 1dollar/ 13pesos = $3.64 /Gal (magna)
12.5pesos/l X 3.785 l/Gal X 1dollar /11pesos = $4.30/ Gal (magna)
[Edited on 3-22-2014 by KaceyJ]
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I guess I will never understand why someone would want to use dollars as far south as Santa Rosalia. With all of the new banking regulations and the
hardhsip this puts on businesses as well as private people, it is irresponsible to use dollars.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Pescador
I guess I will never understand why someone would want to use dollars as far south as Santa Rosalia. With all of the new banking regulations and the
hardhsip this puts on businesses as well as private people, it is irresponsible to use dollars. |
After all this is Mexico!!!! Did it ever occur to those that use USD here why they don't accept Peso's in the states. I know here in Mexico they take
USD to accommodate tourists. But we need to maintain some respect for this country and use their currency Use the proper financial exchange media
for the country you are in.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Pescador
I guess I will never understand why someone would want to use dollars as far south as Santa Rosalia. With all of the new banking regulations and the
hardhsip this puts on businesses as well as private people, it is irresponsible to use dollars. |
It's not irresponsible. There are 2 sides in the transaction, and each side makes its choices. If the vendor doesn't want USD, he/she can say so. If
vendor agrees to accept USD, then he/she can set exchange rate that makes it worth his/her effort, eh?
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bajabuddha
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There's more than one way to skin a cat (the other white meat) when it comes to ripping off at the Pemex... that's in making change for USD when you
only have $20's. If you get back an inordinately large sum of small deominations of pesos as change, where it makes it time consuming and difficult
to sit and count out the whole mess and make sure the exchange rate was correct and the return change was correct, you may find yourself shorted some
pesos there as well; especially if you're on the road travelling and in need of making miles/time. I had that happen in El Rosario once, and lost a
good 15 minutes hashing and re-hashing with the attendant. I got my pesos back, and haven't used USD since... EVER. Know your ATM's. My first stop
is the bank just before Maneadero, and if the machine is down i hit the Calimax.
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Like one can tell if it is honest, taxis drive all day, so if a taxi should know how much liters he actually needs, then you see a taxis filling up at
a pemex then most likely it is a good station.
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What is a dolár? Those funny looking banknotes that are useless?
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I only tend to pay attention to the reports here where someone used an actual measuring device. There are definitely reports where they put 15
gallons in a 10 gallon tank, but I have never come across that myself. It's just so hard to really tell anything without a proper measuring device
being used.
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