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Santiago
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Boy, do I miss Amigos....
I realize that this board never was intended as a fishing board and by the time Fang and gang got tired of the grind even the Amigos was stating to
lose it. BD's focus is on large pelagics, the best guides, and who's girl friend has the largest breasts, not that there's anything wrong with that.
Just saying it can get a little Jr High'ish over there.
But Redhilltown's posting asking when the Sierra show up between BOLA and Gonzoga really points out the complete lack of weekly info on huge swaths of
Baja.
I mean, between BOLA and Punta Chivato I challenge anyone to tell me what's being caught if in fact anyone is fishing these waters.
It used to be that on Thursday night, I went to bed knowing pretty much what was happening, and more importantly what was changing in the fishery
along the entire length of the peninsula.
Now Redhilltown has to ask when the effing sierra are going to show up in the northern mid-riff and the only answer I could give was when they might
show from seasonal experience.
Folks, where the best fish tacos are or what your dog is doing can be mildly interesting, maybe, but what a lot of us would like to know is where the
sierra are right now. What the heck happened??
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Pescador
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I write a weekly report as well as others for Western Outdoor News which can be found on Robin Wade's blog and http://www.bajafisherman.com although it may be a little slow on the update.
I agree that the flavor of the board is like a political discussion but that may be the way that lots of things have gone in the world.
Kinda reminds me of a song that we perform that was done by Johhny Cash.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDSN1F72QU4
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bajaguy
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OK, so who's girl friend does have the largest breasts????.......and are their photos??????..........sounds like we need a new forum topic 
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24baja
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I'm with you Santiago!
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shari
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Mood: there is no reality except the one contained within us "Herman Hesse"
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Hmmm...interesting point Santiago. I wonder if there are just less people fishing...less fish?...less people wanting to tell other people where the
fish are?...less fishing types posting on the internet(maybe they are busy fishing?) or a combination of all those factors.
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watizname
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Hmmmm------fishing?---------Breasts?. Boy, it just doesn't get any tougher than that.  
I yam what I yam and that\'s all what I yam.
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Pompano
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I used to write weekly posts here and on Mexfish about fishing the SOC, especially around the Mulege area. I'm one of those 'oldtimers' now, with a
lot of time on the water. Still like fishing the area, but in truth there are so many other better places to fish these days, so I've sort of let
that my fish report writing hibernate here on the forum. I do miss the old fishing grounds, but mourn for what has happened to the ecosystem and the
fishery through Greed and Stupidity.
I've not written any fish reports on Nomads lately, but still write them, but for my own journal and some other forums & publications regarding
saltwater & freshwater places elsewhere...
Certainly Nomads has become less relevant to fishing, which is natural I suppose. Some reasons, maybe? Fishing is not nearly as good as it once was,
the economy is the worst ever with a dire future, and many folks are saving the money for something else...like their retirement. On the other hand,
it seems that a lot of posts are too insulting, demeaning and used to further political agendas. It's weird behavior by certain characters, but good
material for a book chapter. I'm updating my old Baja journal right now.
It sure is fun to write....Of course I promise to never publish it. 
Not much fish info, but....You can check in and read the latest redneck jokes, jibes, criticisms, get bored with all the wornout political arrows, and
soap operas. (Novellas?)
As to knowing where the sierra are, I know plenty of fishermen up and down the coast who are still going out every day. They keep up with current
fish conditions....they just have never wanted to post it here due to the uncertain climate and possible criticism.
Maybe that will change...I certainly hope so.
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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willardguy
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it is ironic that in this day of information technology we get less than we did back when we waited for the mailman to drop off the weeks WON! even
though by the time you read it, it was over!
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David K
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This is the fishing forum, on Nomad. You want more fishing here, then have at it... post more fishing articles, make it YOUR fishing forum! If you
think a sub-forum like 'Fishing News' or This Weeks' Catch would help, let Doug know.
Amigos de Baja had everything, for all kinds of Baja fun, as does Nomad... That's were most of us first met online, then in person at Viva Baja and
BBBB, before Nomad.
[Edited on 4-5-2014 by David K]
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bacquito
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| Quote: | Originally posted by shari
Hmmm...interesting point Santiago. I wonder if there are just less people fishing...less fish?...less people wanting to tell other people where the
fish are?...less fishing types posting on the internet(maybe they are busy fishing?) or a combination of all those factors. |
Right on!!
bacquito
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BajaNomad
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Earle, Eric and Trish spent - by their account - around 70 hours (combined) per week keeping up with the Amigos site. Besides managing and moderating
the site, they leveraged many connections (70 or more) throughout the peninsula for fishing information which was shared on the website (and prior to
that, email, and before that... fax broadcasts).
If someone's got that kind of time to do something such as this again (on a volunteer basis, no less), more power to them. Let me know if I can help
in any way.
When I was young, I admired clever people. Now that I am old, I admire kind people.
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BajaNomad
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Site Tracks Ins and Outs of Baja
By PETE THOMAS
June 13, 1997
If you've been traveling the Baja California peninsula recently, you might have encountered some unpleasant surprises.
You might have been among those stopped on Mexico 1 in the El Rosario area, turned back by an on-again, off-again citizen blockade, which has been
trying to force the Mexican government to pay overdue wages to road workers and to put at least some of the town's hard-earned tax dollars back into
the community.
Or maybe you were among the unfortunate souls whose boats were seized recently in San Quintin or La Paz by fisheries officials who have suddenly
decided to crack down on those without proper paperwork.
These same officials might have slapped you with a $250 fine for fishing without a Mexican license, even though--once at your destination--you
couldn't find a place that sells them.
Perhaps you've had none of these problems, finding yourself instead with another, stuck on a desolate stretch of highway under a brutally hot sun,
because the gas station you had planned on filling up at had no gas left.
If any of these things have happened to you, they might have been avoided, had you logged onto the Amigos de Baja web site at: http://www.geocities.com/thetropics/4888
This column is rarely used to promote or review addresses on the Internet. But given the interest Southlanders have in that vast, desert frontier
south of the border, and the unpredictable nature of the peninsula, we're making an exception because, unlike most web sites, Amigos de Baja is not
self-serving. Instead, it's a source of valuable information Baja travelers might not be able to find elsewhere.
"If we have anything going for us, it's that we only print the absolute truth with none of that market hype, and no promotional stuff," says Earle
Robitaille, who apparently created a monster when he first went on-line last spring. "It's gotten so big, it's getting in the way of my fishing and I
tell you, it's [upsetting] me to no end."
Robitaille, 66, is only joking, of course. The retired chief of the Huntington Beach Police Department fell in love with Baja more than 40 years ago,
and he enjoys keeping fellow Baja-lovers informed nearly as much as he does traveling down there himself.
Well, maybe not, but he has no choice. The Amigos de Baja web site--which is maintained and updated every Wednesday by Robitaille, his son, Eric, and
Eric's girlfriend, Trish Ramsey--receives more than 60,000 hits a month. Robitaille himself spends 25-30 hours a week keeping the site up to date.
Most visitors are interested in the comprehensive fishing reports from around Baja, which are obtained from a network of fleet owners, Baja residents
and frequent Baja travelers.
Robitaille is so concerned about the accuracy of his reports that he won't even accept advertisements on his site from fleet owners because he says it
will sacrifice his credibility.
In fact, his site has no ads, yet, and is funded solely by Robitaille, who says he may not be able to afford the constant upgrades in software for
long.
One of the most popular features is the newly created On-Line Discussion Center, which allows visitors to post questions, converse with one another
and generally compare notes about trips to various Baja locales.
It also allows Robitaille to post breaking news--such as the recent road closure, which has since been at least temporarily resolved--without waiting
for the regular Wednesday update.
"It's going hog-wild," he says of the new feature. "It's just going crazy. We've had system crashes every weekend for the last four or five weekends
because our server just can't handle it. Now we have to find a new server that can handle it."
All this has been a little overwhelming for Robitaille, who acknowledges he had no idea what he was getting into when he had Ramsey design a web page
a year ago.
Amigos de Baja started out as a group of 15-20 Baja buffs who would share their experiences via fax.
"I became keeper of the fax," Robitaille says. "After a trip, they would call me and I would let everyone else know with a fax. Then people started
moving and I started looking at my phone bill, and I thought, 'This is ridiculous.'
"They all had or were getting computers, so we started doing it by e-mail. We picked up the name 'Amigos' and everything was addressed 'Amigos.'
"Then we started up a web page and within a week we were off and running. People eventually started e-mailing us asking all sorts of questions: about
the weather, road conditions, Mexican regulations and a lot of general stuff like that."
Since then, Robitaille has compiled a contact list of 70 people south of the border. Through them he has become even more connected to Baja.
Through his site, he has warned travelers of the dangers of traveling alone, sharing a recent story of a Northern California man and wife who were
ambushed and robbed by machete-wielding bandits who broke into their trailer while they slept along a desolate section of road south of El Rosario.
"We're only trying to keep people out of trouble down there, and to let them know where the rip-offs are," Robitaille says.
It was Amigos de Baja that more recently tracked the progress of Tropical Storm Blanca, which appeared to be headed for Cabo San Lucas before fizzling
into a mere depression Thursday morning.
It is Amigos de Baja that tries to slip one past its visitors from time to time, just to keep things loose.
An example:
"A rather prim and proper New England lady who was an accomplished fisherperson decided to book a trip to the East Cape of Baja. She wrote to the
campground for a reservation.
"Due to her upbringing, she could not directly inquire about the toilet facilities. She came up with the old-fashioned term 'Bathroom Commode.'
"However, she found that she felt embarrassed using that term and she shortened it to BC in her letter. She asked, 'Does the campground have its own
BC?'
"Senor Garcia, the owner of the campground, couldn't figure out what BC was intended to mean. After a lot of deliberation he concluded this obviously
proper lady must have been asking about the local Baptist church. He immediately sat down and wrote her a reply:
"Dear Madam . . . I take pleasure in informing you that while the campground has no BC, there is one located only nine miles away, and it is capable
of seating 200 people at a time. Due to its distance from the campgrounds, many of our guests take a sack lunch and make a day of it.
"The last time my wife and I visited the BC was over two years ago, and it was so crowded at the time we had to stand the entire time we were there. I
am sorry to report I do not go as often as I would like, but this is not due to lack of desire on my part.
"As we grow older it seems to become more of an effort, especially in cold weather. I will be happy to take you on your first trip to the BC and sit
with you as you come to admire this facility. I would also be happy to introduce you to all the other folks who will be there. This really is a
friendly community."
http://articles.latimes.com/1997-06-13/sports/sp-2902_1_baja...
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BajaNomad
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http://www.bajanomad.com/bajanet/
When I was young, I admired clever people. Now that I am old, I admire kind people.
– Rabbi Abraham Joshua Heschel
We know we must go back if we live, and we don`t know why.
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Cliffy
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Santiago- I'm with you !
I have tried to find a place to get fishing info OTHER THAN BILL FISHING way down south but to no avail.
I would think that with the travel traffic way down that fishing pressure would also be down so posting where and when wouldn't cause too much of a
flood of NA anglers running down.
There's got to be a way to get better fishing info for the smaller species all the way down.
We have it with www.wayneswords.com for our local lake (180 miles long!)
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Pompano
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Well, we've just got to get more folks out there fishing and writing reports! Get out of those hammocks!
For some more angling reading, here's a fishing forum from 'The Hull Truth'...pretty good overall Pacific fishing events, but not Baja-specific.
http://www.thehulltruth.com/west-coast-41/
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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Cliffy
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BajaNomad
The geocities link does not work
I posted my previous just as you dropped yours in on top of me :-)
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Cliffy
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Bajanomad
The bajanomad/bajanet link is also just a one page dead end
Just passing it along
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BajaNomad
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Cliffy
The geocities link does not work
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The article is from 1997! That link hasn't worked in probably more than a decade I'd imagine.
They later moved the site to:
http://www.bajanet.com
Another link that hasn't worked for about a decade. I watched the activity on that domain after it was abandoned. It never dropped back into the
domain pool... it was held by the domain registrar for a while, and looks like it was sold by them privately at some point.
When I was young, I admired clever people. Now that I am old, I admire kind people.
– Rabbi Abraham Joshua Heschel
We know we must go back if we live, and we don`t know why.
– John Steinbeck, Log from the Sea of Cortez
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David K
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Earle, Eric and Trish were great lovers of Baja and their Amigos posters actually becoming in person amigos at the get-togethers we had back in
2000-2003...
Oct., 2000, Viva Baja #1:
Earle Robitaille and Trish Ramsey of Amigos de Baja.
Eric Robitaille (Amigos de Baja/ Bajanet.com)
Some amigos at the first Viva Baja, also included...
Amo Pescar (Mike), Doug Means (Baja Nomad), and Kacey Smith (BajaGPSGuide.com). Just behind Mike, is Jack Swords. In the background, at the table are
Mike and Mary Ann Humfreville, M, and Graham...
Fred Metcalf, founder of the first Baja message board was also there...
Another huge Baja Internet influence at our party was the late Carlos Fiesta (with Kacey Smith in this photo)...
Even the still active with data David Eidell (DavidE) was present...
13 1/2 years ago and so many of us from Viva Baja #1 are still active. Earle pops in here to Nomad a few times still.
M's BBBB camping parties, Antonio's Baja Cactus cultural fiestas, and Keri's Booksigning events at the Pyramid Resort also were born in the years that
followed.
Photos from them are all at http://VivaBaja.com
Time for another party?
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Paulina
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Jim,
I miss those days too. It was my job to fax the Bahia report to Earle for the Amigos board and to Fred Hoctor for WON. There wasn't any other source
for fishing info at the time, so I really looked forward it.
"You might have been among those stopped on Mexico 1 in the El Rosario area, turned back by an on-again, off-again citizen blockade, which has been
trying to force the Mexican government to pay overdue wages to road workers and to put at least some of the town's hard-earned tax dollars back into
the community."
I made a post on AdB about my experience with running that road block. Those were the days!
I still have one unused AdB sticker in my wallet that I'm keeping for some silly reason.
P>*)))>{
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