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woody with a view
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trailer in Baja and California still wants registration
anyone know how i can get out of paying registration for a trailer that will never return to Cali? i've got the renewal notice. i remember some
discussion about this way back but can't find anything in search.
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bajaguy
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Tell em you sold it or it was totalled in a wreck.....in Mexico
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bajamedic
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If you don't pay the DMV, they will take it out of your tax refund... if you get one. I sold a vehicle and the new owner did not register it, as he
was using it as a farm vehicle. And yes I did the Release of Liability paperwork. JH
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acadist
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Doesn't CA have the permanent trailer plates for $10? Or am I just showing my age? Anyhow here's my suggestion: invite all your friends for a party
(hint, hint) the one who brings the worst bottle of tequila pays the fees  
Dave
I moved to CO and they made me buy a little rod to make it feel like a real fish
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55steve
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| Quote: | Originally posted by acadist
Doesn't CA have the permanent trailer plates for $10? Or am I just showing my age? Anyhow here's my suggestion: invite all your friends for a party
(hint, hint) the one who brings the worst bottle of tequila pays the fees |
Permanent? Yep, that's what the plate says but CA sends you a registration bill every 5 (I think) years.
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Heather
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I've had my trailer parked in Cabo for about 10 years and it is the type of trailer/camper that you have to keep registered. When I didn't register
it once because of a change of address issue, DMV garnered wages. Anyway, I've been paying my $75 every year until I decided to fill in the change of
location (address where it is now located), line on the DMV form. I put that it was located in CSL. I then sent my check and the form and they
returned the check and said I didn't need to register it since it wasn't being driven on CA roads!
This was just in Feb, and I got another letter from DMV at the end of March saying I hadn't paid the registration and was now being charged a late
fee! I made copies and sent it all back, so hope it's a done deal!
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captkw
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CA REG
Hola woody..if its gonna stay in Baja/mex just ignore the dmv...they purge the files after a given time period....if any chance of resale and someone
would return to CA.....They ARE Fuccced !! AS as EX boat dealer and car trader I can tell YA you don't want to get caught up in the DMV GoG wheels !!
Comprenda !!
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Alm
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The only reason why I would bother with registration renewal is to take it on the road. Because it's illegal to tow unregistered trailer. Though with
permanent plate the likelihood of this is negligible - they have to stop you for some reason and check your papers. Can't think of any reason other
than cops looking for stolen trailer (in Mexico? this is a joke, right?)...
If it's parked permanently in Baja, just forget the whole thing. I agree that this could cause problems if somebody buys it and takes it back North.
A vehicle in your possession and yet with no registration for many years - don't know about Ca rules, but this may cost some fines to register it
again. Re-register it some state where it costs less, if you are worried about this.
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mcfez
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http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs%2Fbrochures/fast_facts/ffvr01.htm
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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JohnMcfrog
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I did the non op last year as Mcfez referenced and it was painless. I called them after taking the trailer down so that it was registered while
crossing the border and transporting it to it's permanent residence.
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woody with a view
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thanks for the replies. i wrote on it it was in Mexico and not coming back. we'll see what happens.
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DawnPatrol
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| Quote: | Originally posted by acadist
Doesn't CA have the permanent trailer plates for $10? Or am I just showing my age? Anyhow here's my suggestion: invite all your friends for a party
(hint, hint) the one who brings the worst bottle of tequila pays the fees |
LOL
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TMW
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Woody you might have to reply to the DMV a couple of times. They don't have the brightest bulbs in the box working there.
Two years ago I gave my son my last motorcycle, he lives in CO, and I sent in the form saying so. Still they sent me a letter saying I had not paid my
registration fees. My son had it registed in CO. I replied to the DMV. They sent me a second notice which I replied to again. They then sent it to the
state treasury or what ever department does collections. That department sent me a letter and again I replied with the same info I sent to the DMV
only this time they acceped it.
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msteve1014
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I would go the non-op route. I think it cost $5, then you, or some one else could easily register it again some day.
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Ramon
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I remember seeing on the renewal paperwork that travel trailers can not be non op'd?
Actually it says right here in the link Mcfez posted too.
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs%2Fbrochures/fast_facts/ffvr01.htm
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Alm
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What trailer, btw? It looks like Ramon is right, the link to Ca DMV says that RV "trailer" can not be placed on the non-op status:
"Vehicles Which Cannot be Placed on PNO Status
Park Trailers
Trailer Coaches
Vessels
Special Equipment
Mopeds/Motorized Bicycles"
[Edited on 5-10-2014 by Alm]
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msteve1014
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JohnMcfrog
I did the non op last year as Mcfez referenced and it was painless. I called them after taking the trailer down so that it was registered while
crossing the border and transporting it to it's permanent residence. |
Sounds like he did. More info please.
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Alm
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JohnMcfrog
I did the non op last year as Mcfez referenced and it was painless. I called them after taking the trailer down so that it was registered while
crossing the border and transporting it to it's permanent residence. |
From what I read in Ca DMV rules, you can only do this with travel trailer that is located in Ca and is not towed anywhere. You declare it a "title
only" trailer, and then don't have to pay regular fees and don't have to report the non-op status.
Sounds like he declared it "title-only" after taking it down to Mexico and didn't tell them that it's not in Ca anymore. Which is not legal, but
probably works.
Can be a problem if he or next owner will take it back North, if (IF) DMV will catch up with the fact that trailer came from Mexico when it was
supposed to be in Ca all this time. But if it's going to stay in Mex until the end, this isn't going to happen.
[Edited on 5-10-2014 by Alm]
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JohnMcfrog
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Whatever.. The guy I talked to a DMV understood that this was a done deal and did the right thing. If you get the "wrong" answer, come back another
day and get another take on the matter. DMV 101.
[Edited on 5-10-2014 by JohnMcfrog]
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mulegejim
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| Quote: | Originally posted by acadist
Doesn't CA have the permanent trailer plates for $10? Or am I just showing my age? Anyhow here's my suggestion: invite all your friends for a party
(hint, hint) the one who brings the worst bottle of tequila pays the fees |
I believe that's only for boat, utility, etc trailers
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