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[*] posted on 6-20-2014 at 01:14 PM
Citizenship- A question for married women


In application for Mexican citizenship one must present passport and birth certificate. A problem arises when the names do not match. We have shown our advisor, Gilberto Pineda, a birth certificate, marriage, divorce, marriage paper trail to the passport name and he said we needed a letter from the US Consulate saying that the birth certificate name and the passport holder was in fact the same person. The Consulate in Cabo told us they didn't do such letters. We are appealing to someone out in Nomadland who has encountered this problem to tell us exactly how they solved it. We will file in Mexico City so experience there will be most relevant and appreciated.
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[*] posted on 6-20-2014 at 01:37 PM


My wife was having this issue recently trying to get our kids dual citizenship. She's stalled in the process but I'll ask her if she knows anything.



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[*] posted on 6-20-2014 at 04:56 PM


I recently followed a thread on MexConnect about a woman who had the same trouble. If I remember right she had to have the name on her birth certificate changed??!! It was really remarkable. I know it sounds impossible. At any rate, she did get the problem solved and is now a citizen. Check with MexConnect in the "living, working, retiring" forums and you should find the thread. Maybe you can contact her and get more info.
Good luck and report back here. I may be facing this same issue before long.
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[*] posted on 6-20-2014 at 05:15 PM


Perhaps this is pertinent.
Depending upon the country in which you were born, regulations may require
that in relations with Mexico your birth certificate must have an authentication of apostle.
For example, if you were born in the US this is the case. Check with the Secretary of State
in the state which issued the birth certificate.




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[*] posted on 6-20-2014 at 08:10 PM


I completed the citizenship process in Mexico City in 2005 with Gilberto. As I recall, I had to have a copy of my birth certificate and marriage license with an apositle for both. I had been married, divorced and remarried. I did not have to have the US consulate do anything special. That was almost 10 years ago, requirements may have changed, hope for the best for you. Getting my Mex citizenship was one of the best decisions I have made in my life.
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[*] posted on 6-21-2014 at 08:38 AM


I believe, bajalorena, that the rules have changed. This issue of a woman needing a birth certificate in the same name as that which is on her passport has come up just in the last year or so. It seems to be an issue in all parts of the country, not just one or two states. I'm hoping that this will eventually become a non-issue again. Esperando............
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[*] posted on 6-23-2014 at 01:01 AM


I don't have a remedy, only another anecdotal account of this issue. Spoke to a friend in Huatulco last week and his wife was on her 3rd trip to Mex City. They've lived in Mexico for 15yrs and both applied for citizenship. He got his last year and she was denied and has been dealing with the name-thing for a year. She took his name when they married and it doesn't match her birth name/birth certificate. They have used an advisor/faciltator and an attorney to deal with this and have stamps and documents and apostilles up the wazoo and still hit a wall.

There used to be a form to submit in this situation where you attest that your birth name and married name are the same person, along with all other documents required, but that's no longer accepted and they won't budge on this issue.

Sheeze, gimme a break. We're foreigners with a myriad of cultural practices - show a little flexibility guys. If they decide to honor me with Mexican citizenship someday, I'll be happy to do things the "Mexican way" as long as we live here. But we married before moving to Mex and in my country of origin it was the custom to take my husbands name. Embrace the diversity dudes!

If it wasn't for the large sum $$$ we'll save on capital gains tax as citizens, I doubt we'd deal with it.





[Edited on 6-23-2014 by oladulce]
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[*] posted on 6-23-2014 at 08:30 AM
Changing the name on your birth certificate to match your married name?


In my birth state you can only change your certificate if they made an error on the original such as a typo, or in cases of adoption, and possibly other circumstances if you get a court order. Any change to your original certificate is considered an amendment and it is attached to the original, but the original can never be altered. So you could jump through all those hoops and Mexico might still reject the "amendment".
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