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EnsenadaDr
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What?? Montezuma's Revenge AGAIN???
As I am reviewing Facebook messages, it seems Montezuma's Revenge has taken a hold of the Baja Community. While studying for the US Medical Boards I
discovered and want to share a little secret. Bismuth Salicylate, the active ingredient in Pepto-Bismol, has been touted by U.S. Doctors just as
recent as this year as the most all around best remedy for gastrointestinal problems. It is an intestinal antiseptic, and coats the stomach and
intestinal tract, helping with diarrhea and nausea better than any other single remedy. When I worked as a physician in Cantu, people came to me that
had diarrhea for weeks. I gave them the generic clinic Bismuth Salicylate, and told them to take two capfuls after each diarrhea movement, until it
stopped. Not one came back to me with the same problem. Antibiotics can actually kill the natural intestinal flora and cause more problems.
And now for my joke. A group of parents were asked what they would do if they found out their son was a Homo Sapien. 70% of the parents said they
would throw him out of the house.
So much for an educated world. As we all know, laughter is the best medicine!! (And if you remember that saying from Reader's Digest, you are older
than you want to admit!)
Salud!
Dra Janene
[Edited on 8-29-2014 by EnsenadaDr]
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....it seems Montezuma's Revenge has taken a hold of the Baja Community.....
Maybe it is all the amateur gringo food vendors in that area spreading it.
Friday at the "Open Air Food Market" YO NO VOY!!!!
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Any of the pepto type products are far more expensive in Baja than in the the US and there is a big difference in taste. If you want to use Pepto,
maybe take it with you from the US.
And do be careful and it can be very hard on your kidneys. I am not a doctor, but have had that warning given to us by doctors.
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Well Diana maybe where you are but in the Rosarito and Ensenada areas they sell Pepto in regular and cherry flavor which is my personal favorite. It
runs about $50 pesos for the bottle which is a small price to pay for relief. Now the generic salicilato bismuto that they sell in Farmacias
Similares is very cheap and doesn't taste fantastic but it is palatable.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
As I am reviewing Facebook messages, it seems Montezuma's Revenge has taken a hold of the Baja Community. While studying for the US Medical Boards I
discovered and want to share a little secret. Bismuth Salicylate, the active ingredient in Pepto-Bismol, has been touted by U.S. Doctors just as
recent as this year as the most all around best remedy for gastrointestinal problems. It is an intestinal antiseptic, and coats the stomach and
intestinal tract, helping with diarrhea and nausea better than any other single remedy. When I worked as a physician in Cantu, people came to me that
had diarrhea for weeks. I gave them the generic clinic Bismuth Salicylate, and told them to take two capfuls after each diarrhea movement, until it
stopped. Not one came back to me with the same problem. Antibiotics can actually kill the natural intestinal flora and cause more problems.
And now for my joke. A group of parents were asked what they would do if they found out their son was a Homo Sapien. 70% of the parents said they
would throw him out of the house.
So much for an educated world. As we all know, laughter is the best medicine!! (And if you remember that saying from Reader's Digest, you are older
than you want to admit!)
Salud!
Dra Janene
[Edited on 8-29-2014 by EnsenadaDr] |
I try hard to ignore your dime store medical advice over the internet, but this one is really irritating. IMHO, you are rather dangerous.
Yes, Pepto can cure SOME upsets, but it depends on the what is causing the upset--- what organism and sometimes it has to be cultured to find out for
sure.
Sometimes antibiotics are really important as well as other treatments. And any one over the age of 13 who does not know that when one is on
antibiotics they need to eat the different yogurts etc to replace the good flora has never been to a good doctor.
We, as have many others around here, have traveled all over Mexico and to other countries where we have encountered Montezuma's Revenge, including a
couple of restaurants in the USA and a cousin's wedding. It is always different and sometimes a little Pepto does the job, but it does NOT take the
place of other treatments for different types of upsets.
The worst I experienced was some bad pork in Peru and the worst John ever faced was from raw oysters in San Blas, and both required doctors and more
than Pepto. Some upsets Pepto will work, but one needs to not solely depend upon it. Very short term use --- and watch the kidneys.
Probably good advice for anywhere, is look for where the locals are eating. If it is meal time and there is no line at a certain taco stand, run the
other way.
If you are going to offer medical advice, please think about offering the side-effects, the dangerous and limitations.
Now, time to leave to avoid the flame thrower. 
[Edited on 8-29-2014 by DianaT]
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You know what Diana, I have a medical degree and license in Mexico. So just because you don't like my comments concerning the shabby investigation of
this disappearance, it gives you no reason to insult my education and experience and call it dime store. This statement came directly out of the
United States Medical Licensing Board questions and answers. On the contrary you and your friends give medical advice here without the credentials
and I would say that is "peso" advice. The US Medical board advises to start with Pepto Bismol and if it is continuing more than 24 hours to go for
more serious treatment. Most gastric irritation is caused by eating in excess and drinking alcohol in excess so a stool culture is not warranted
immediately and prescribing antibiotics is dangerous and can kill helpful bacteria. Now if you want to give medical advice I suggest you quote your
sources. Did I say take Pepto Bismol in place of other treatments when warranted? It appears your comprehension of the written word and
interpretation leaves much to be desired. | Quote: | Originally posted by DianaT
I try hard to ignore your dime store medical advice over the internet, but this one is really irritating. IMHO, you are rather dangerous.
Yes, Pepto can cure SOME upsets, but it depends on the what is causing the upset--- what organism and sometimes it has to be cultured to find out for
sure.
Sometimes antibiotics are really important as well as other treatments. And any one over the age of 13 who does not know that when one is on
antibiotics they need to eat the different yogurts etc to replace the good flora has never been to a good doctor.
We, as have many others around here, have traveled all over Mexico and to other countries where we have encountered Montezuma's Revenge, including a
couple of restaurants in the USA and a cousin's wedding. It is always different and sometimes a little Pepto does the job, but it does NOT take the
place of other treatments for different types of upsets.
The worst I experienced was some bad pork in Peru and the worst John ever faced was from raw oysters in San Blas, and both required doctors and more
than Pepto. Some upsets Pepto will work, but one needs to not solely depend upon it. Very short term use --- and watch the kidneys.
Probably good advice for anywhere, is look for where the locals are eating. If it is meal time and there is no line at a certain taco stand, run the
other way.
If you are going to offer medical advice, please think about offering the side-effects, the dangerous and limitations.
Now, time to leave to avoid the flame thrower.
[Edited on 8-29-2014 by DianaT] |
[Edited on 8-29-2014 by EnsenadaDr]
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Diarrhea can also be a symptom of an underlying disease such as colon or intestinal cancer. The body attempts to remove impacted fecal matter by
releasing liquid into the intestines, hence causing the diarrhea. An x-ray can aid in detection.
What are the statistics in Baja and/or Baja Sur/Mexico at large for routine colonoscopies as part of preventive care? The demographics?
edited for grammatical clarity
[Edited on 8-29-2014 by Mulegena]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by El Vergel
Your joke is uncalled for and damages any reputation a medical professional would have. What was the intent? I ask that you edit your post and delete
information that shows racism, bigotry and a closed mind. Further, there are good and bad in everything, including health care professionals. Your
"joke" was in poor taste and may show how you have used a credential to ascertain "laughter" and more importantly, age. |
You're joking, right??? 
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(don't look now, but your epidermis is showing) 
I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!
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Getting back to topic, I was told by my REAL doctor that pepto is the best simple solution for the Hershey Squirts for short-term control, i.e. you're
travelling and need to control the frequency; but it's not a cure, and any anti-diarrhea medicine that slows the lower tract just turns your tummy
into a petri dish where the bugs can keep growing. The answer for getting over a case of the Revenge was simply "the solution for pollution is
dilution"; keeping well-hydrated and replenishing electolytes, such as good-old chicken soup (broth) and/or Pedia-Lite, and letting it run it's course
(no pun intended). However, as mentioned above, a BAD case can mean a lot of things from amoebic dysentery to colitis, Crohn's Disease (sp?) or a
host of other maladies where medical intervention is necessary.
I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!
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say you're on vacation and won't tolerate any down time.
pepto bismol
tequila blanco
fresh squeezed lime
splash of grand marnier
back in business! 
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| Quote: | Originally posted by willardguy
say you're on vacation and won't tolerate any down time.
pepto bismol
tequila blanco
fresh squeezed lime
splash of grand marnier
back in business!
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Now that is enough to empty the contents of one's stomach--
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so next time we eat a bad fish taco and get some squirts, we can follow la doctora's advice to reach for the pepto bismal -- or follow diana's and
mulegena's advice and take a bottle of antibiotics and get a colonoscopy each time we get squirty...
i think i'll start with the pepto before i follow diana's and mulegena's advice!
by the way, my frequency of getting sick in restaurants is higher in san diego than baja,... san diego aint that clean, even the "A" carded
restaurants can serve a bad plate!
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There are two items I always have for my guests
Pepto chewables....chew one after each incident, not to exceed 4. I bought these here and don't recall their being expensive
Electro-lites...I like the coco flavor. Drink lotsa water...I am sure that I don't have to say...good water.
I have never had a guest sick for more than a day.
Years ago a Dr. told me to chew one tablet every morning when I was in Mexico.
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The advice and information given on this board about ischemic vs. hemorrhagic strokes was downright deadly. Unless the person is a licensed
professional I would take their comments with a grain of salt. Yet there are always people out there that want to play doctor, often at others'
expense.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajabuddha
pepto is the best simple solution for the Hershey Squirts |
A sign on the wall in a Pediatric ward:
"If you don't eat....you don't sheit."
A big saving on diaper expenses.
"YOU CAN'T LITTER ALUMINUM"
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DENNIS between your obsession with underwear and diapers, I would swear you are a scatologist.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajabuddha
Getting back to topic, I was told by my REAL doctor that pepto is the best simple solution for the Hershey Squirts for short-term control, i.e. you're
travelling and need to control the frequency; but it's not a cure, and any anti-diarrhea medicine that slows the lower tract just turns your tummy
into a petri dish where the bugs can keep growing. The answer for getting over a case of the Revenge was simply "the solution for pollution is
dilution"; keeping well-hydrated and replenishing electolytes, such as good-old chicken soup (broth) and/or Pedia-Lite, and letting it run it's course
(no pun intended). However, as mentioned above, a BAD case can mean a lot of things from amoebic dysentery to colitis, Crohn's Disease (sp?) or a
host of other maladies where medical intervention is necessary. |
http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/yellowbook/2014/chapter-2-the-pr...
As some of you can read, Traveler's Diarrhea also known by some as Montezuma's Revenge is very often not a simple upset. Pepto can fix the simple and
be detrimental to the not so simple even if needed for something like a long bus ride. --
[Edited on 8-29-2014 by DianaT]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
The advice and information given on this board about ischemic vs. hemorrhagic strokes was downright deadly. Unless the person is a licensed
professional I would take their comments with a grain of salt. Yet there are always people out there that want to play doctor, often at others'
expense. |
Well, good! And YOU can have their death certificates pre-signed and in order for easy shipping and handling, pre-paid, of course........
I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!
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