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weebray
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ULS diesel
What is the current availability of ultra low sulfur diesel in Baja. I have no idea what that is but I have a friend that wants to drive his new
Mercedes dzl. RV down this fall and is in need of info. I told him I can't believe it could be a problem but wtf do I know?
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David K
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The entire state of Baja CA stations, yes. Baja Sur maybe no. Scroll down to other thread on ULSD.
This ULSD thread was recently bumped in the Q & A forum: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=75248
[Edited on 9-8-2014 by David K]
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weebray
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
The entire state of Baja CA stations, yes. Baja Sur maybe no. Scroll down to other thread on ULSD.
This ULSD thread was recently bumped in the Q & A forum: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=75248
[Edited on 9-8-2014 by David K] |
I did search and find these articles. They were clear as mud. That's why I asked for the latest updated info. What should I tell my friend. I
assume engine damage, due to incorrect fuel, to a late model Mercedes engine could be rather expensive. It may, also, not be covered under the
warrantee due to improper fuel.
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Bob and Susan
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car manufacturers must meet certain smog regulations to be able to sell their product in the usa
they cannot tell you that ANY diesel will work in your new car or truck or they fail and either cant sell the model or pay a HUGE fee
old people worry too much
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What I would tell your friend is to buy his last ULSD at Antonio's PEMEX in El Rosario.
Now if you were a real friend, tell him to get a Toyota Tacoma and drive that to Baja
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I didnt know Toyota made a Diesel Tacoma?.......
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chuckie
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I would tell your friend to ask the dealer he bought it from...If it is the same rig, sold as a Dodge Sprinter, I have seen a good number of them in
Baja...As well as several "Real" Benz units....
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They don't, that is the work around to no ULSD in Baja Sur
| Quote: | Originally posted by chuckie
I didnt know Toyota made a Diesel Tacoma?....... |
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by chuckie
I didnt know Toyota made a Diesel Tacoma?....... |
Not yet... a Hilux, yes... but that's not sold in the U.S. or Canada.
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I knew that...Just weary of the Toyota commercials....
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Maybe Bob & Susan can reinforce ok feelings by saying they run their ULSD truck on Baja Sur fuel without any issues... but it was a while ago
since I read that? Is it still the case Bob?
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the diesels were 2 trucks ago...gas now
but 2 diesel trucks 100k each... no problems
the low sulfur stuff is about SMOG
that's it
remember diesels can run with cooking oil if filtered correctly
but you'll gain weight from the smell 
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Baja California's gas comes from California refineries. It's the same gas, so yes, it's ULSD. Never any problems filling up. (Whether a particular
station sells diesel at all is a different question.)
ULSD is ultra-low-sulfur diesel. You can use non-ULSD. Here is what happens. In all diesel passenger vehicles sold after 2008, there is a urea tank
that sprays what amounts to pig pee into the exhaust. It makes the "dirty", heavy particulate matter in the exhaust precipitate out and settle on the
bottom of the holding tank.
Every now and then the particulate matter is burned, and the exhaust from that goes out the tailpipe. You can tell when this happens because your MPG
will go way, way down. The more sulfur in your diesel fuel, the more particulate matter precipitates out. The more particulate matter there is in your
holding tank, the more urea you will use and the more often you'll burn out the leavings.
Depending on how long he is planning to be in Baja Sur, it may be worthwhile having his urea tank topped off at the Benz dealership before leaving. I
believe Mercedes calls it BlueTec. It shouldn't cost more than $50. If worse comes to worst, there is a Mercedes dealership on Padre Kino in Tijuana
and one on Hwy 1 south of San Jose del Cabo.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by weebray
I told him I can't believe it could be a problem but wtf do I know? |
The mfgs wont tell you what will happen when you run high sulfur diesel fuel in an engine designed for ULSD, they will just say you will void your
warranty.
Here is what MIGHT happen: the catalyst will be contaminated, potentially rendered useless, and excess sulfur may plug the particulate trap and that
may cause a back pressure which could damage engine.
Personally, I would just go for it and enjoy the trip, and worry about it later. If your emissions control system gets screwed up, it wont be an
acute problem, your car will still be drive-able, it will probably fail your next smog check. If you fail smog check and it is still on warranty,
then take it to dealer and make them fix it (remove the "get baja" bumper sticker from vehicle before you take it to dealer 
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IT IS NOT "HIGH SULFUR" DIESEL!
Baja Sur has LOW SULFUR DIESEL and Baja Norte has ULTRA-LOW SULFUR DIESEL.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
IT IS NOT "HIGH SULFUR" DIESEL!
Baja Sur has LOW SULFUR DIESEL and Baja Norte has ULTRA-LOW SULFUR DIESEL. |
high, low, middle, top, bottom,... none of these terms mean squat in an information vacuum,... i think everything else is "high" relative to
"ultra-low"
and you know what i meant 
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Too much discussion on this subject, burn it and dont worry about it or stay home...Geez....
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Right Arm..Chuckie
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| Quote: | Originally posted by chuckie
Too much discussion on this subject, burn it and dont worry about it or stay home...Geez.... |
brilliant.
I ran a 2008 f250 6.4 chitbox Ford that has a DPF but does not use urea. I spent over $1400.00 on sensors that were "gummed up/ carbon covered".
Thetruck would go into "limp home mode" "check engine light" the list goes on and on. All of this from running LSD fuel from Mulege.. I would not
drive a 2008 or newer diesel in Baja Sur. I'm speaking from direct experience, not some chit I read on the internet.
I now have all hemi powered dodges, my wallet is much happier. Same fuel mileage and tons less maintenance and we don't get gassed out from the DPF
cleaning mode.
BTW, my 7.3 powerstroke without smog BS runs fine in Mulege-275000 miles and rattling its way to 300000
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chuckie
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My 96 Dodge has been drinking Mulege diesel since it was new. 330,000+ miles, no problems except for hitting a light pole by Las Casitas, bad tequila,
not bad diesel. Having said that, I would NOT buy a new diesel truck since to me gas trucks are now as cost effective. Solution is simple: If you
think its going to be a big problem for you, dont bring it to Baja...YOUR decision, other people cant make it for you....
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Just FYI, emissions control systems are required to be warranted for the lifetime of the vehicle if purchased in California.
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