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vseasport
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Los Cabos - Rated "R"
Los Cabos - Rated "R"
I'm going off on a rant! If a couple of swear words or a very pointed view offend you just click on by.
Hurricane Odile is old news now and thanks to the Mexican government and the hard working people of Baja the best part of the mess it made has been
cleaned up. Yes, there was impact that will take more time for some things to get back to normal but a huge percentage of the businesses that serve
our tourist trade in Los Cabos are ready to rock and roll.
What has impacted many of these businesses most is the closure of SJD airport. Yesterday the airport opened for domestic flights but won't open until
the 8th for international. With SJD closed for more than 2 weeks La Paz airport is the only option to fly here. The problem with that is no direct
flights are offered from the US so travelers have to get to San Diego and make their way across the border to Tijuana or fly through Mexico City or
Guadalajara to get to La Paz. Whichever route you choose, it is just not easy and then there is the couple hour taxi ride to Los Cabos. That is not to
mention what an armpit the La Paz airport is.
Alaska and Southwest made a huge deal and tooted their horn about the humanitarian flights they provided to evacuate stranded tourists out of Cabo. I
say big woop! They brought them in, and in my mind, had some duty to jump in and help get them out. Once the evacuation was over Alaska showed their
true colors and suspended all flights to Los Cabos until November. Other airlines have jumped on the band wagon canceling flights throughout October.
Now Alaska has thrown Los Cabos a bone offering one flight a day from Los Angeles but San Diego and all other destinations are still cancelled.
The bulk of Los Cabos economy is tourist driven and everybody is choking. Worse yet, even after the airport opens the greed of many airlines has made
them choose not to fly. If they can't fly full they are just canceling flights. Few tourists are here so the first planes in will have to dead head
back empty. The airlines would rather just cancel flights and drop the good people of Los Cabos on their heads, cutting off their life blood until a
fat profit can be made.
For Christ sake! Yesterday a cruise ship made port in the Cabo Marina and the airlines don't want to fly. I know in time this will become a distant
memory but hope this writing will remind some how poorly the airlines treated us.
Copied here is an email I woke up to yesterday:
[I]Hi Guys,
I took my wife to dinner last night to celebrate putting the tournament to bed and the great response we have had in light of all that has stood in
our way.
Then my phone rang. It was one of my team captains. United airlines had cancelled our flight once again and re-booked us all over the US.
They had some of us coming in on the 9th some on the 10th. Routing us through up to 4 cities. the longest one I heard was 29 hours.
I went home got on the phone with united. my wife started calling guys. We found a red eye out of Houston and got almost everybody re-booked. I don't
know if I can get them all.
As it stands we are still coming on Oct 8th and staying till the 12th.
If this one doesn't fly I don't think I can rally support for the trip. The guys have been awesome but they are succumbing to doubt.
I hate to say this but I will not ask this of them or my poor wife again.
Lets hope these crazy airlines are done messing with us.
[/I]
Without regard to the impact they cause the region they are supposed to be serving or for their patrons who have planned up to and more than a year in
advance these greedy bastards just cancel. No explanation, just cancelled.
How come you can ask the person sitting next to you while flying how much they paid for their ticket and find it was only half as much as you paid?
Why are they allowed to gouge? I could go on and on about the airlines. They have us all over a barrel and know it. It is just not right!
It's just my opinion I could be wrong.
At least game fish are treating us well. The few guests that have found their way through the maze to get here are enjoying typical outstanding
October fishing. For the first time this year live bait is plentiful and tuna, dorado, marlin, sailfish, wahoo and roosterfish are providing constant
action.
Walking the beach this morning I captured this amazing rainbow on my iPhone
Also found signs of a new turtle nest
Even if our guests can't get here we are going fishing
Tuna are here
So are dorado. Diego withg a good one.
Chuy is bent.
Striped marlin
The old guy can still pull.
Mark Rayor
teamjenwren.com
markrayor.blogspot.com
[URL="http://www.facebook.com/JenWrenSportfishing"]www.facebook.com/JenWrenSportfishing[/URL]
US cell 310 308 5841
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Udo
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Nice photo of the marlin!
Udo
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sd
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I am sure it is frustrating Mark.
However, in fairness to Alaska Airlines, they did step up and sent planes in full of food, water and supplies as soon as they were allowed to do so.
And passengers were flown back to the States on their return flights. They also made a stop in mainland Mexico to pick up passengers that were flown
there by Military planes when leaving Baja.
They early on announced their flights would resume on a limited basis when the airport re opened on the planned October 8th date. If all goes well,
they will gradually increase the number of flights. I am sure they want to be sure everything is up and running correctly before bringing flights back
to normal.
I am guessing it is more out of concern for proper operations than "greed" they are starting back slowly. I for one sent them thanks for their efforts
and assistance, and I am just a fisherman who loves fishing the East Cape. I have made many friends there and it was good to know Alaska Airlines and
others reached out at a time of need. And of course, many stranded passengers did fly Alaska and were stranded when the storm hit.
Wishing you a full boatload of passengers soon Mark. I am sorry for all who had damage and destruction, and I feel most of us understand you
desperately need the tourists to return. And we want to return!
Does anyone have current photos of the airport? Amazing that they are able to re open so soon.
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Lengua
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Airlines
I disagree with you. The folks at Alaska Air should be commended for their efforts.Instead your slamming them along with the other airlines. I know
its cutting into your business and the the Businesses of Cabo San Lucas.
What do you think Alaska is doing , their running a business also and trying to service the demand while assesing airport capability ,support services
etc....There is a lot to consider after a major hurricane like Odile that did so much damage.
You act as if their suppose to bail you out . Your choice to live there and run a business knowing very well what could happen.
Some years you probably killed it without any interruptions to your business .This happens to be an off year all the way around . AS they say you have
to take the good with the bad. I hope the region recovers faster and the airlines find it profitable to return . God Bless the people of Cabo San
Lucas.
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Pappy Jon
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The airlines are businesses, not charities. Flying down to Cabo empty not only cost them money, it doesn't make you any either. Just because the
planes might fly in doesn't mean there will be people to get off.
"The association of flowers and warm-blooded love is more than a romantic convention; it is based upon one of the great advances in the evolution
of life." Ed Abbey
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weebray
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The time approaches when, at the very least, monthly fishing moratoriums will have to be declared in order to give the depleted stocks a chance to
recover. Your business will be impacted just like the commercial Mexican fishermen on the pacific side are being made to stand down now. Something
for you to consider for your future business model. Maybe you should consider a larger emphasis on catch and release. Think of the thousands of
gallons of jet A saved by not hauling tons of dead fish north to rot in someone's freezer.
Every beautiful beach in the world needs a few condo towers - NOT.
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Sweetwater
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Because the destruction of Cabo was so well publicized, I would think that the commitment to travel is a primary stumbling block rather than the
airlines willingness to fly the routes. If your airport is not functioning or only partially functioning, the liability for any accidents will fall on
those planes, personnel and companies. After watching the US devastation to the Gulf and the Eastern Seaboard from Class 4 hurricanes, I'd bet that
many folks do not think or believe that there has been a full recovery from Odile. I have also heard from local owners of properties in that area that
they have not recovered and are not useable. Of course, it might just be me.....
Everbody\'s preachin\' at me that we all wanna git to heaven, trouble is, nobody wants to die to git there.-BB King
Reality is what does not go away when you stop believing in it. -Philip K Dick
Nothing is worse than active ignorance. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe(1749-1832, German writer, artist and politician)
When choosing between two evils, I always like to try the one I\'ve never tried before. - Mae West
Experience is what keeps a man who makes the same mistake twice from admitting it the third time around.
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Lengua
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Many of us are still picking up the pieces. Repairing our homes , damage to our vehicles and our personal property. I've seen the destruction first
hand and its still a mess. Maybe not in Los barrilles but it is in Cabo.
your business is dependent on the airlines and so is Cabo tourism. Not all the hotels are up and running and some folks timeshares have been damaged.
It goes both ways , our friends dont get to use their timeshare and are out and Cabo doesnt get them as a visitor with disposable money to feed the
economy.
Thats the unfortunate consequences of such a natural disaster.
It will come back .
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Sandlefoot
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Might make one wish La Paz was still an international airport! Would be funneling those to Cabo until the repairs where completed there! Just a
thought.
" Don't find fault, find a remedy; anyone can complain." Henry Ford
If you are not living on the edge...you are taking up to much space!
Just because it may not be a good idea does not mean it will not be fun!!!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by weebray
The time approaches when, at the very least, monthly fishing moratoriums will have to be declared in order to give the depleted stocks a chance to
recover. Your business will be impacted just like the commercial Mexican fishermen on the pacific side are being made to stand down now. Something
for you to consider for your future business model. Maybe you should consider a larger emphasis on catch and release. Think of the thousands of
gallons of jet A saved by not hauling tons of dead fish north to rot in someone's freezer. |
oh boy now you have done it,,,
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weebray
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| Quote: | Originally posted by desertcpl
| Quote: | Originally posted by weebray
The time approaches when, at the very least, monthly fishing moratoriums will have to be declared in order to give the depleted stocks a chance to
recover. Your business will be impacted just like the commercial Mexican fishermen on the pacific side are being made to stand down now. Something
for you to consider for your future business model. Maybe you should consider a larger emphasis on catch and release. Think of the thousands of
gallons of jet A saved by not hauling tons of dead fish north to rot in someone's freezer. |
Thank you, I hope so.
oh boy now you have done it,,, |
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Alaskaair had flights booked for Cabo, but canceled those flights and then re-added flights in a limited manner that are overbooked with tickets at
higher prices. As a provider of services they canceled orders for services they had contracted to deliver in a disaster, only to re-add flights at a
semi-limited quantity and charge higher prices, some one way flights are listed at $1000. If that is not gouging for economic gain, not sure what is.
Alaska's actions should be under investigation. Other businesses have been investigated and charged in this period such as Movestar and Telcel. Egg
prices are skyrocketing. Alaska should be doing better.
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Desertbull
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The airlines are not responsible for bringing your clients down south, you're just using them. You should have your own deal on a charter or do a deal
with Chonch at AeroCalafia, your clients will pay the fee right! I haven't seen you ever complain here about the airlines when you were banging in the
almighty tourist dollars when they were bringing in your clients with no problems at no cost or worry to YOU! It seems you have been banking the
tourist fishing dollars for a long time and now you complain about the airlines...hahaha classic Americano thinking...you should have been very
prepared for this...got roses? Smell them deeply!  :
DREAM IT! PLAN IT! LIVE IT!
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Alaska Airlines
Los Angeles to Cabo
October 17 departure
October 22 return
$303.00 round trip including all taxes. Cheaper than I have seen it in a long time. This price was available when I just checked.
Alaska has some high priced flights for the first few days Cabo airport re opens., like $800 one way from Los Angeles. Crazy price.
I heard from multiple people that the tickets they had that Alaska cancelled were made available to them again at the original price.
Takes a lot of fuel to run that plane, and the ticket price can be cheap if you are flexible on travel dates!
Tourism is important, and hope the town fills up soon.
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This vseasport guy is a whiner........people lost everything, sorry you are having a difficult time getting on your fishing trip. Get in a truck and
drive it, like we used to do.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by tecatero
This vseasport guy is a whiner........people lost everything, sorry you are having a difficult time getting on your fishing trip. Get in a truck and
drive it, like we used to do. |
He lives there and went Through the storm, so get your facts straight before venting.
PS. Great photos, I sure like those better when they are in the water. I think you run a great charter down there and the only place we have gone
sideways in the past was the taking of fish out of the water to take pics. This set of pics are beyond great.
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Well Mark, it's a good thing you didn't pull any bill fish out of the water for a picture last week. Things will be back to normal soon, thanks for
posting and keep the great pictures coming...
"Life is tough".....It's even tougher if you're stupid.....
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Americans' are spoiled cry babies but yet demand the lowest prices for goods and services.
It's nice some people can go to enjoy the best fishing in the world. It's a shame one might have to endure the inconvenience of a hurricane aftermath
disrupt such pleasure. Americans' shouldn't have to put up with such inconveniences. Couldn't someone have changed the course of that damn storm?
I think I'll sue someone.
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Lengua
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Pescador , I believe the facts are what they are . The guy is b-tching about Alaska Air abandoning the service and jacking prices . I myself have
checked the prices and they are reasonable . The dud e wants it both ways. I 'm sure he's done pretty good over the years and other were much more
affected than he was. He relies on our dollars not the locals so he needs those flights to start up ASAP -all under the guise that its the folks of
Baja that need those flights back . Everyone wants it back to "normal" but there's a lot more to it than fueling the plane and taking off.
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Once the tragedy seems to subside....some folks start to look to blame someone 
I like the ideas presented suggesting Vsport charter his own customer flights....I assume folks coming down just to fish could afford any cost
differences....and likely don't need the fish for subsistence living, so also agree it should ALL be catch and release fishing.
Do people still put a stuffed fish on the wall to show they have a big one? And there are lots of fish caught by locals available for sale if you get
a hankering for fish for supper (That would support the local economy  ).
Trophy hunting/fishing is an outdated practice in the minds of many these days.
However, a nice day out on the chuck is a good day....fishing aside.
Not everyone here seems to bend down to the sacred activity of the "sport" of fishing.
Don't believe everything you think....
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