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bajaguy
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IDIOT DRIVERS???
Who drives "The UPS Store" rig???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkkjKvaSLgs&list=UUMAzvp...
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Udo
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I don't know what kind of kick this guy gets out of chasing horses in Baja!
Udo
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bajaguy
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David, the YouTube video clearly states "horse chase".....these guys were committing an act of animal abuse. They were clearly chasing the horses The
horses would have decided to get off the road if the guy would have stopped the vehicle. He didn't need to say anything, his actions speak volumes
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Ummm... it looks to me that he is driving fast on a dirt road in Baja and came upon the horses on the road, also running. The horses decided to not
get off the road until near the end of the video. I don't see the guy hitting them or getting as close to them as he could if he was a 'horse hater'.
I didn't turn on the sound, was he saying anti-horse things like he wanted to do them harm?
What were his options other than wait for them to get off the road and continue, which is what he did? |
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bajaguy
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David this is the title of the video.........
"Horse Chase - 2014 Baja 1000 Pre Run "
For you to defend this type of behavior is irresponsible and incomprehensible.......your responses speak volumes
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rts551
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
The title of the video does not indicate what the purpose of his Mexico trip was, but only an odd event. I saw him driving and then there were horses
already running in front, so he followed them until they got off the road.
If he never posted the video of the horses, it didn't mean it never happened. I think it happens a lot, in Mexico? There was a horse with a saddle
running in front of a Trophy Truck, filmed by a helicopter, doing the same... running in front until finally getting off the road, at a recent Baja
race televised.
Maybe anger should be directed at the horses' owners who allow them to be loose... much the way dog owners are responsible if their dog is in the
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This guys was pre running. the video was given to SCORE and sent UPS his sponsor.
So no more open range in Mexico DK. hmmm I wish I could see you express this to the horse owners.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
David, the YouTube video clearly states "horse chase".....these guys were committing an act of animal abuse. They were clearly chasing the horses The
horses would have decided to get off the road if the guy would have stopped the vehicle. He didn't need to say anything, his actions speak volumes
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A number of comments have been sent to SCORE and to UPS, the sponsors.
It was wrong and does the entire sport harm.
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Tioloco
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Baja guy, UDO-
I just wasted 3:46 of my life watching that video. Animal cruelty it is NOT! You may want to have a stiff drink, take a deep breath and review it
again.
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
David this is the title of the video.........
"Horse Chase - 2014 Baja 1000 Pre Run "
For you to defend this type of behavior is irresponsible and incomprehensible.......your responses speak volumes |
If I saw bad behavior or attempted animal cruelty, I would be against it as an animal lover myself. I saw none, and can't figure how you guys did...
running horses is now cruel? Running them OVER is... the driver did not!
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rts551
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Tioloco
Baja guy, UDO-
I just wasted 3:46 of my life watching that video. Animal cruelty it is NOT! You may want to have a stiff drink, take a deep breath and review it
again. |
From a racers perspective, this is not how we want to advertise and promote our sport.
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dtbushpilot
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David, the title of the video was "horse chase"......well, I guess that means he was chasing them. I wasted 3:46 of my life too, watching a guy in a
truck following some horses galloping down the road. He didn't appear to be going fast or following closely, I saw lots of places where the horses
could have easily left the roadway but none of that matters, the title of the video is "HORSE CHASE"!!!! so I guess that must be what he was doing
Drop it David, they are going to start calling you names to shut you up, don't give them the satisfaction....
"Life is tough".....It's even tougher if you're stupid.....
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David K
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OK, so note to all racers with Go Pro cameras... DON'T SHARE YOUR INTERACTIONS with Mexican farm animals, even if no harm came to them.
The three monkeys come to mind: See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil.
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Tioloco
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Rts-
That may be true, but still is a long way from animal cruelty.
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dtbushpilot
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
| Quote: | Originally posted by Tioloco
Baja guy, UDO-
I just wasted 3:46 of my life watching that video. Animal cruelty it is NOT! You may want to have a stiff drink, take a deep breath and review it
again. |
From a racers perspective, this is not how we want to advertise and promote our sport. |
Definitely not, weather he was "chasing" them or not he is at least guilty of being stupid to show the video in the first place.
"Life is tough".....It's even tougher if you're stupid.....
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Tioloco
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DT-
Well said.... Over and out on this topic!
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by dtbushpilot
David, the title of the video was "horse chase"......well, I guess that means he was chasing them. I wasted 3:46 of my life too, watching a guy in a
truck following some horses galloping down the road. He didn't appear to be going fast or following closely, I saw lots of places where the horses
could have easily left the roadway but none of that matters, the title of the video is "HORSE CHASE"!!!! so I guess that must be what he was doing
Drop it David, they are going to start calling you names to shut you up, don't give them the satisfaction.... |
Thanks David... yup, they will come after me, for speaking truth, common sense, or the facts... and it is all just my observations and didn't call
them any names. Mob rule is how they try and silence opposition.
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MMc
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This is not good!!! Very bad for reputation of the race and the racers. I am sure if the farmer sees this he will do all he can to ensure the race
doesn't cross his land, and maybe so will some of his fellow ranchers, maybe not this race but in the future. There are a lot of folks that would
love to see this race stopped and this is just fuel to the fire. Does it happen "yep" should it have been posted "nope". It's out there now and there
will be a storm. He should have pulled over and stopped, it will cost him. Some of us would like to keep Baja open and wild, this stuff does not help.
Condoning it does not help ether.
Truth is a perception, There are many in the world who's truth is that USA is evil. Our truth is that we are not. Sometimes it good to see the world
from other points of view.
[Edited on 10-30-2014 by MMc]
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David your comments are beyond ignorant even for you!! We have over 20 years of experience with horses in our business, horses are flight animals,
they panic when frightened! This idiot driver should have stopped a few minutes and let them settle down and then proceed! These horses will have
suffered severe hoof bruising and if one of them was a pregnant mare she could very well have aborted after been run full out for this long! Clearly
the drivers were getting their jollies by doing this reprehensible act of cruelty! Hopefully there will be some repercussions for this act, it
reflects badly on the whole racing community!
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Just looks like your average knuckle dragging off roader.
P.s. Dk is wrong to approve of this, it's inhumane behaviour
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rts551
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Goat, the average off-roader does not approve of this and are the ones who elevated it for some kind of remedy. It is not the image they want to
portray,. thanks for the help though.
| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
Just looks like your average knuckle dragging off roader.
P.s. Dk is wrong to approve of this, it's inhumane behaviour |
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motoged
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The video came up as "private....unavailable for viewing"....so I can't waste 3.XX minutes watching it....
However, as an off-roader, animal-appreciator, and human being, I think that it is inappropriate to not consider the animal's world when using our
machines to traverse it.
[Edited on 10-30-2014 by motoged]
Don't believe everything you think....
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