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MICK
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Mexican citizenship?
I was wondering what the pros and cons of getting Mexican citizenship if any of you have done it
Thanks Mick
Getting there is ALL the fun!
Ok being here is fun to
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shari
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bet thing I ever did was get citizenship! No more immigration woes...and one has every right a Mexicano has except we cant run for President...darn.
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BajaBlanca
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I have been a dual citizen since I was born. When we moved here, Added Mexican citizenship so I could work. Les got his citizenship too, . No more
immigration is waaaay cool.
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Pescador
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You can own land, vote, and do everything a Mexican Citizen is able to do.
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dtbushpilot
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If you get in trouble with the law the American (or Canadian) Consulate won't be able to help you.
edit to say that I plan to get MX citizenship and stay out of trouble....going to try anyway...
[Edited on 1-14-2015 by dtbushpilot]
"Life is tough".....It's even tougher if you're stupid.....
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durrelllrobert
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But don't you have to import your car, register it in Baja and get a Baja drivers license?
Bob Durrell
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dtbushpilot
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Yes. Why wouldn't you after all, You are a citizen, you live here now.
"Life is tough".....It's even tougher if you're stupid.....
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bajacalifornian
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I like the part where you can join hunting clubs & have guns and stuff.
American by birth, Mexican by choice.
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DENNIS
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Perm residents can have guns legally. It's a constitutional right. I have one registered to me through the military.
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DENNIS
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Not so easy if doing it legally, Frank. There a minefield of Catch 22s that have to be navigated. Although, as I mentioned, it's a constitutional
right to own a gun, the acquisition of one LEGALLY is how the government implements strict gun control on the citizens. Anyone can own one, but not
anyone can get one that is "in the system"....therefore, legal to be transferred.
Buying ammo is a whole other can of worms. they don't sell it at Walmart.
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Hook
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Because it's expensive.
We considered it, purely for the idea of dissolving our trust.
But the actual and related costs of dissolving the trust werent worth it, to us. It was going to be at least 8k to dissolve it. Most of that was not
the bank but fees for a new escritura, notary fees, etc. That's about 16 years worth of trust payments. Will I be around in 16 years? Our trust is
locked at a fixed amount per year. It doesnt go up.
Then, there is the importation of the vehicles. With the new regs this year, it would be between 1500-2000 per vehicle.
It just isnt worth it, to us. So, we are a combination of a Permanente and a Visitante. But we are only about 4.5 hours on a multi-lane highway from
the border, so renewing a Visitante is not difficult.
Right now, dealing with INM is pretty easy. They've relaxed the financial requirements for directly qualifying for a Temporal or a Permanente. And if
you start either one of these at a consulate outside of Mexico, it is a very easy process.
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DENNIS
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For me, it's right up there on my "personal responsibility for vigilance list." This day and age, that can't be taken for granted if there's a viable
option.
For me, there is.
[Edited on 1-14-2015 by BajaNomad]
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Hook
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The costs of using a gun down here, with the likelihood that it will force you into entering the legal system, is not worth the protection it gives,
IMO. I'd just as soon give the bad guys what they are asking for, if it was a personal confrontation. It's probably cheaper, in the long run. It's
difficult to steal my boat, my house, my ATV. My cars are nine and fifteen years old.
If they break into my house to get stuff, it means I am probably not here with a gun (or any deterrent), anyway. It wont be hard to replace a six year
old, 32 inch flat panel or a couple low-end laptops. Yes, we might lose some cash............but not a life-changing amount.
Now, entering the Mexican legal system, THAT can be life-changing.
Besides, for the guns you could legally possess down here, you will likely be severely outgunned.
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Hook
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Dennis, Dennis, Dennis !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What did you do, THIS time???????
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DENNIS
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Not me, Capt. Hook. I'm innercent.
Anyway...my gun permit is for house only. I shudder to think of the consequences of a couple of junkies entering my space unannounced.
I even have trouble watching "Criminal Minds" on the tube.
If push came to shove, and I had to go to extremes on or in my property, I would expect very few consequences from the authorities. I am allowed, and
capable of self protection
That said...I won't be shooting the paperboy for throwing the periodico on the roof.
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willardguy
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Quote: Originally posted by Hook  |
Because it's expensive.
We considered it, purely for the idea of dissolving our trust.
But the actual and related costs of dissolving the trust werent worth it, to us. It was going to be at least 8k to dissolve it. Most of that was not
the bank but fees for a new escritura, notary fees, etc. That's about 16 years worth of trust payments. Will I be around in 16 years? Our trust is
locked at a fixed amount per year. It doesnt go up.
Then, there is the importation of the vehicles. With the new regs this year, it would be between 1500-2000 per vehicle.
It just isnt worth it, to us. So, we are a combination of a Permanente and a Visitante. But we are only about 4.5 hours on a multi-lane highway from
the border, so renewing a Visitante is not difficult.
Right now, dealing with INM is pretty easy. They've relaxed the financial requirements for directly qualifying for a Temporal or a Permanente. And if
you start either one of these at a consulate outside of Mexico, it is a very easy process. |
hook, what do mean a combination of permanente and visitante? and just HOW relaxed did the financial requirement get??? gracias!
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Hook
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By combination, I mean my wife has a Permanente and I have the Visitante. Since both vehicles are in both names, she can drive the US plated vehicle
outside the free zones. Of course, we have to get a Temp Import Permit (in my name, since Permanentes cant get one) when we go outside the free zones.
I dont remember the exact amounts they reduced the qualifications. But it seemed like it was reduced by at least 30%. Maybe more. Best to check the
yucalandia site or the rollybrook site. This just took effect on Jan 1.
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willardguy
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| Quote: Originally posted by Hook | By combination, I mean my wife has a Permanente and I have the Visitante. Since both vehicles are in both names, she can drive the US plated vehicle
outside the free zones. Of course, we have to get a Temp Import Permit (in my name, since Permanentes cant get one) when we go outside the free zones.
I dont remember the exact amounts they reduced the qualifications. But it seemed like it was reduced by at least 30%. Maybe more. Best to check the
yucalandia site or the rollybrook site. This just took effect on Jan 1. |
thanks hook. im close but still don't make it!
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DENNIS
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| Quote: Originally posted by Hook |
Besides, for the guns you could legally possess down here, you will likely be severely outgunned. |
Not if you shoot first. Vigilance is everything.
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