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Lengua
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La Paz Cartel activity -Safety and well being
La Paz Citizens , what's the latest and greatest on the Cartel activity? Does it appear under control ? Do you feel safe walking the Malecon at Night
? what about visiting your favorite restaurant -Do you fear that a gunman looking for a rival gang member may show up and spray the place with bullets
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Just how bad is it down there?.......
Your honest responses are appreciated!
Thanks ,
Mike
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gnukid
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Read all about it
http://colectivopericu.net
http://www.bcsnoticias.mx/lapaz/
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rts551
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http://colectivopericu.net/2015/01/26/resumen-de-los-hechos-...
for recent news. First paragraph
.-The last 48 hours have been panic in the city, has left two drug deaths and two injuries, but also have unleashed gunfire between criminals and
persecution of others who had to be subdued by police with gun shots, causing fear, distrust various events promoted by organized crime apparently has
taken over La Paz.
Oh and do not shoot the messenger -
[Edited on 1-27-2015 by rts551]
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DianaT
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Killjoy. 
It really is sad to see so much violence happening there. 
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weebray
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We're just hunkered down in the root cellar. We wait until it's full daylight then dash down to the local tienda for staples.
Every beautiful beach in the world needs a few condo towers - NOT.
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Cappy
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That's the saddest news about a place named "LA PAZ"
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AKgringo
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There shouldn't be much to worry about, after all, Mexico gun laws are FAR stricter than any gun control laws being considered in the US!
That has to make La Paz safer than an American port city of that size....doesn't it?
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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willardguy
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it can't be all bad, it forced weebray underground! 
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monoloco
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Borderland Beat featured a 4 part report on what's going on in La Paz, narco groups are enjoying impunity because they are working with state police
officials and politicians. The state government of BCS is about as corrupt as you can get.
http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2015/01/seido-target-hitmen-in...
"The future ain't what it used to be"
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bajabuddha
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Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  | There shouldn't be much to worry about, after all, Mexico gun laws are FAR stricter than any gun control laws being considered in the US!
That has to make La Paz safer than an American port city of that size....doesn't it? |
Like Chicago?
Or New Orleans?
Ever taken a human life yet, or only wishing? Scumbags, shoot-em-all.
Then remember their faces.
La Paz is only another travesty in man's inhumanity to man, and all the NRA of the world is not going to fix it; just exacerbate.
I own guns, BTW. A 30.06 for deer and elk. A shotgun for popping a cartridge at a partridge. A .22 Hi-Standard pistol and a .25 cal. cabbage-buster
boot-gun (last two, unwanted gifts). Sold my .357 years ago knowing i'd eventually use it.
I suggest the NRA forms a formal legal 'contractor' business, internationally licensed, for the REAL patriots of this world to sign on, go to foreign
lands (as well as our own, of course!!!! Like the border regions, for instance) and PUT UP OR SHUT UP. BE A WARRIOR. Find out what it's really
like to DO rather than dream or flap lips.
Notice, this is not just b-tchin' about 'what-ifs' but an actual answer to problems wrought. Lock 'n' load.
I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!
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baja Steve
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Just spent the last 6 weeks working in La Paz. Was out all over town even after dark. Came across a couple of problem areas but never felt unsafe.
Just go have fun and don't listen to all the reports from people that just rumors.
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Cliffy
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Detroit kills more by far than any other city and it's all driven by drugs. I won't go there nor will I go to south central Los Angeles even in the
day time. You pays your money and you takes you chances!
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paranewbi
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Sat in my living room yesterday and watched on the evening news about a Mom who killed her three kids, a Dad who killed his family and then himself, a
daughter convicted of murdering her mom, a young mother who held her 18 month old son under water in the bath tub 3 TIMES! because he survived the
first two and between each attempt snuggled him on her bed!
Seems to me we might start keeping an eye on those we sit around the Thanksgiving table with.
I love La Paz and plan on going every chance I get.
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rts551
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Don't quiet understand why it is OK to go to a certain area just because it is worse or the same somewhere else. If that was the case you would
vacation in Yemen because Syria is holding hostages.
Why wouldn't you want to be aware of rising tensions in certain areas of Mexico and Baja?
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Alan
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I'm afraid I don't have any current info as I haven't been there since Thanksgiving. However at that time the body count was somewhere about 40.
Obviously this has been a significant concern for all Pacenos. At least for me, I found it comforting to see the huge presence of Policia Federale.
It is good to see the issue was at least being addressed to the best of their ability.
Typically in La Paz you may see 4 or 5 Federal vehicles in town and they mostly just inspect trucks coming off the ferry. When I was down in October
and November federal police were everywhere, in vehicles and even walking foot patrols along the malecon. I would estimate well over 100 federal
officers as well as an increased presence of State Police.
I personally still feel safe in La Paz albeit not as safe as years past and at the moment I have no intention of changing any habits. I'm flying back
down in the morning and will have a chance to talk with my neighbors. I can only hope right now that conditions are improving.
In Memory of E-57
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gnukid
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The difference between the violence NOB and SOB is that in La Paz the violence is highly organized and controlled. There are not random people
shooting at random people, reportedly the sicarios have a binder with photos, identifiable marks, tattoos, etc. with targeted individuals and freedom
to move as desired. It seems to be a well orchestrated plan for destabilization of local status quo in order to bring in (external) control. Tourists
/ non-participants are not targeted.
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BajaGringo
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I agree, but as I well know, it doesn't always work out that way.
I love this peninsula as much as anybody and have zero plans on leaving. But that doesn't keep me from wanting to be informed of what is going on with
local crime, just as I want to know about the weather, road conditions, local politics and events.
There has been a recent spike in crime in La Paz and based on reports of many expats who live there, it is an issue. La Paz most likely still is much
safer than many US cities but that doesn't change the fact that it has changed as of late. Let's pray that trend changes soon - maybe with the coming
elections we will see some positive results.
I always paid attention to local crime reports when I lived NOB. Why would I want to stop just because I live in Mexico now? The better informed I am,
the greater my chances of avoiding becoming a victim IMHO...
[Edited on 1-28-2015 by BajaGringo]
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danaeb
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I just returned to San Diego from two weeks in La Paz. My observations: Business as usual in the stores, but a noticeable lack of pedestrians (locals
and tourists) along the malecon. In fact the majority of pedestrians were groups of 3-4 federales on foot.
Experience enables you to recognize a mistake every time you repeat it.
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Sweetwater
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Mood: chilly today hot tomale
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La Paz has always been my Baja destination and then I turn around and go norte'. I've never been to Cabo and have no real interest in it. I've enjoyed
Carnaval multiple times....hope this current batch of problems do not spill onto that venue....
How are the plans for this years Carnaval progressing?
Everbody\'s preachin\' at me that we all wanna git to heaven, trouble is, nobody wants to die to git there.-BB King
Reality is what does not go away when you stop believing in it. -Philip K Dick
Nothing is worse than active ignorance. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe(1749-1832, German writer, artist and politician)
When choosing between two evils, I always like to try the one I\'ve never tried before. - Mae West
Experience is what keeps a man who makes the same mistake twice from admitting it the third time around.
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Jack Swords
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I run the malecon at 5 in the mornjng every day. Been doing this for the past 16 years. I see many of the same people every day. Do not see any
difference over other years. My wife and I walk from the marina down the malecon to the ice cream store..la fuente...and sit down to enjoy the ice
cream. Again, the malecon is like other years, particularly around 7 to 8 at night. When a cruise ship is in ....16 this year...the malecon is
crowded, yet they do not stray up into town.
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