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AAA map from before MEX1 pavement
can anyone of you please post images of the pre pavement AAA map ?
Trying to reconstruct the first Baja 1000 courses following the previous "road"
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Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  | can anyone of you please post images of the pre pavement AAA map ?
Trying to reconstruct the first Baja 1000 courses following the previous "road" |
When I get home tonight, I will post the full length NORRA Mexican 1000 (once I find it)... Here is a section of the 1960's AAA map (the line drawn is
the route of our 1966 trip:
Here is the NORRA Baja 500 map from 1972. Pavement ended near Colonia Guerrero (north of San Quintin). The 1000 used the same roads as far as Laguna
Chapala from 1967 to 1971.
The 1972 Mexican 1000 started in Mexicali and ran south to San Matias Pass via Hwy. 5, and either south via Mike's Sky Rancho and San Telmo, or the
Trinidad/ San Vicente road, and on south on the Hwy. 1 route, as before.
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If you go to http://murdocknav.com/racingmaps.htm most of the Baja race maps are there. The earliest Baja 1000 map is from 1968.
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Worked with a Teamster who recounted stories of
charting the first 1000's on Husky motorcycles with
gas tanks strapped to their backs
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thank you guys! I would still like to see a copy of the AAA map from before pavement (without the race course drawn in)
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The Howard Gulick 1962 maps are so much better that the AAA maps of the 60's...
Just click on the area of the peninsula on the index map to see the close up maps:
http://biology.fullerton.edu/biol517dje/maps/baja_1962.html
Here is the close up of Ensenada south... the pavement ended about 4 miles north of Colonet for almost all of the 50's and 60's: http://biology.fullerton.edu/biol517dje/maps/im/baja62_map04...
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Thanks Tom, that is what I was going to look up for Harold... but now I see he doesn't want the race map...
1968 Mexican 1000 on AAA Map: file:///C:/Users/David/Downloads/1968NORRAMexican1000Map.pdf
1971 Mexican 1000 on the AAA map: file:///C:/Users/David/Downloads/1971NORRAMexican1000.pdf
Well, they don't show here as links, so click on the Murdock link, and scroll down to the bottom for 1968 (it looks better than the 1971 one... and
they are the same course).
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thanks guys!
[Edited on 2-6-2015 by 4x4abc]
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The first 1000 races (NORRA MEXICAN 1000) from 1967-1971 used the main road (Hwy. 1) from Ensenada to San Ignacio. Then, the route used the Pacific
side road past San Ignacio Lagoon to Rancho Cuarenta, Cadeje, and to La Purisima jcn. Then it was on south to La Paz on 'Hwy. 1' again... which wasn't
paved more than a 100 miles or so north from La Paz.
In 1972, the race began in Mexicali, went south on Hwy. 5 to the Valle de Trinidad jcn (no Hwy. 3 yet), then went across to Hwy. 1 via Mike's Sky
Rancho or the San Vicente/ Trinidad road (racer's choice)... from Hwy. 1 jcn. the course was the same as before to La Paz.
In 1973, the race was taken over from NORRA by Mexican organization 'Baja Sports Committee' and renamed 'Baja 1000'. The race started in Ensenada but
went east to Ojos Negros and on across to San Felipe then south to Gonzaga, L.A. Bay, La Bocana Valley, El Arco, then the old road/ course to San
Ignacio (half of it on pavement) then the original route on to La Paz... but pavement had reached north to Insurgentes then.
There was no 1000 race in 1974, the only year without one. The Baja Sports Committee failed and Mickey Thompson's SCORE ran a successful 400 mile race
in July, 1974... was awarded a long term racing contract, but had not enough prep time to do a 1000 race that year.
In 1975, the first SCORE Baja 1000 stared and ended in Ensenada, going as far south as near Santa Rosalillita and up through Punta Prieta, Calamajue,
Gonzaga Bay, San Felipe... Three c l a s s e s ran a shorter route, avoiding the Seven Sisters coast. They believed the silt beds were too bad for
Class 6, 7, & 11.
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| Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc | can anyone of you please post images of the pre pavement AAA map ?
Trying to reconstruct the first Baja 1000 courses following the previous "road" |
socal AAA gave their map and photo archives to USC. Perhaps you could contact USC libraries for e-copy. some of their aaa photo collection is online
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I have a 1930 AAA map. It is large so I'll have to copy in sections and post. It's about 18 inches wide and maybe 3+ feet long.
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There are 5 sections to the map. They are sideways since I was not sure if I flipped it the quality would be the same. The right side is cut off east
of Baja due to map size.
Map1
Map2
Map3
Map4
Map5
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That's a nice map. Thanks for posting.
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Tom, my neck hurts looking at it that way! LOL
This looks late 40's to early 1950's ??? Can you find a year for it? THANK YOU!
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super cool
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I printed out the old map and taped it together. Came out great.
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The map does not have a date but the booklet it was with when I purchased it on ebay says 1930 in the lower left. The descriptions in the booklet
follows along with the map.
Booklet
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Okay and wow... so Tom, can you please scan the pages?
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I do not know why but in Photobucket they were all rotated right. I tried several times to correct it but something is screwed up in the process and I
am tired of trying to correct it.
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thanks!
this is getting better every day
trying to locate the routing of this early road system on Goggle Earth is extremely difficult
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