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SFandH
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off-topic forum
I'd like to see the off-topic forum work like the rest of the forums. No password, posts show up on the today's posts page. The off-topic threads
would get more participation.
[Edited on 3-17-2015 by SFandH]
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AKgringo
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I disagree, in fact I think posts that evolve into political rants that have nothing to do with Baja should be moved there (IE the current 'Mega
drought' thread)
It is not a big deal to sign in to 'Off Topic', and many of us don't want that traffic cluttering the recent post format.
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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SFandH
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cluttering? do you mean the extra rows to include off-topic in the list of posts is a big nuisance?
the mega-drought thread should be moved, as you say
[Edited on 3-17-2015 by SFandH]
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BooJumMan
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OT is just a few guys calling eachother names over and over. It seems pretty boring 
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luv2fish
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This thread should be moved, has nothing to do with "the Baja"
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Sweetwater
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Well,
I'm going to post up an opinion here that might rile a few of the establishment.
I've been watching for years now that when a more progressive and thoughtful thread is derailed by a few posters such as David K.
I think it's totally intentional and serves the purpose of booting such a thread to an off topic venue where it will die a death that is desired by
that bent of political perspective.
This is not the only forum that has this type of occurrence and outcome. I could go further and define each of the "participants" who routinely engage
in this behaviour but I've learned through other forums that those who run the house make the rules.
I'm actually quite surprised that the quote thread has survived as long as it has. Personally, I have attempted to bring it back on topic as much as
possible.
I cite resources that I didn't measure myself a week or decade ago and attempt to keep an intellectual conversation without politics in application.
The typical derailment is the opposite from my perspective.
The forum owner gets to choose, I hope he or she or them choose wisely. In this regard, my son in Oakland tells me that water rates are being raised
and the state is "condemned" to running out of potable water in the next year. This is On Topic and goes far beyond recommending drip water systems
for your yard.
Reality is a b-tch.....as the old vernacular applies.....and I don't own any servers or forums. I've grown to love Baja through Steinbeck and
experience so the ball does not rest in my court.
I would ask for wisdom and attention to real science and facts...most difficult requests in the current social and political climate.
BWTFDIK...I'm a simple country boy born and raised in the absolute Red Neck and Conservative state of Wyoming. There are not a bunch of us ever and
fewer of us left so load up and take your best shot....I can take it and I can dish it out..........
Everbody\'s preachin\' at me that we all wanna git to heaven, trouble is, nobody wants to die to git there.-BB King
Reality is what does not go away when you stop believing in it. -Philip K Dick
Nothing is worse than active ignorance. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe(1749-1832, German writer, artist and politician)
When choosing between two evils, I always like to try the one I\'ve never tried before. - Mae West
Experience is what keeps a man who makes the same mistake twice from admitting it the third time around.
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bajajudy
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Quote: Originally posted by SFandH  | I'd like to see the off-topic forum work like the rest of the forums. No password, posts show up on the today's posts page. The off-topic threads
would get more participation.
[Edited on 3-17-2015 by SFandH] |
NO
[Edited on 3-17-2015 by bajajudy]
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David K
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What is "progressive" and "thoughtful" about NOT discussing other opinions or the facts? How many of my posts been "derailed" by sidebars...? Do I
demand changes to Doug's forums? NO!
I am all for MORE people posting MORE Baja trip reports and events happenings... and ask all the questions they may have. Making friends is another
benefit of Baja Nomad, some of you need to try it instead of making enemies here. I don't care what your politics are, only that we are all free to
think the way we want with factual information to support those beliefs. Around the Baja campfire, we never talk politics only Baja stories. I have
many friends here that don't vote the way I do, so no need to conform to any side if you are a Nomad.
Now, because my name was used to promote the control idea here:
The only "derailing" is when I may question the idea that sea levels have risen, when I can go to the same places, roads, and buildings along the sea
that I did 30, 40, even 50 years ago... and they are STILL in the same place above the sea. The idea that man is more powerful than Nature and only he
can cause climates to change or sea levels to rise is crazy. I do not tell people that I am right, but instead use their own eyes to see then truth.
Trust people and not Big Government. 'Progressive' is just New-speak for oppressive dictatorship in government. There Mr. Sweetwater, is that derailed
enough for you? Have a nice day!
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mtgoat666
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I have discussed politics around many a campfire... your campfires sound boring!
| Quote: Originally posted by David K |
'Progressive' is just New-speak for oppressive dictatorship in government. There Mr. Sweetwater, is that derailed enough for you? Have a nice day!
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DK, that was a very in-your-face derailing. You really should go to the OT and practice your flame thrower politics in the OT venue!
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bajadogs
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Oops, you did it again.
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David K
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Sorry Goat, but when someone posts about taking away freedoms, and calls it 'progressive', I like to point that out! LOL
Chill and have a nice day!
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 |
DK, that was a very in-your-face derailing. You really should go to the OT and practice your flame thrower politics in the OT venue!
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I get pretty tired of all the David K bashing that goes on in this forum. It was Sweetwater that first brought up his name in this thread which had
nothing to do with the topic, then you get all upset when David comes back to defend himself. Shouldn't you be aiming your wrath at Sweetwater for
derailing the thread and turning it personal. You all need to grow up be a little more tolerant of people with other views that don't exactly align
with you own.
Living Large in Loreto. Off-grid and happy.
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Debate is good, name calling and personal insults are childish and counterproductive. It's really not that hard to get one's point across without
being insulting. The anonymous nature of the internet breeds incivility, maybe we should all try harder to make our posts more like we are speaking to
someone face to face.
"The future ain't what it used to be"
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David K
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| Quote: Originally posted by monoloco | | Debate is good, name calling and personal insults are childish and counterproductive. It's really not that hard to get one's point across without
being insulting. The anonymous nature of the internet breeds incivility, maybe we should all try harder to make our posts more like we are speaking to
someone face to face. |
Excellent idea!
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| Quote: Originally posted by ncampion | | Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 |
DK, that was a very in-your-face derailing. You really should go to the OT and practice your flame thrower politics in the OT venue!
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I get pretty tired of all the David K bashing that goes on in this forum. It was Sweetwater that first brought up his name in this thread which had
nothing to do with the topic, then you get all upset when David comes back to defend himself. Shouldn't you be aiming your wrath at Sweetwater for
derailing the thread and turning it personal. You all need to grow up be a little more tolerant of people with other views that don't exactly align
with you own. |
LIKE LIKE LIKE LIKE
Although I don't always agree with Dave, I get pretty peed off when he posts stuff or comments on something and gets attacked, espacially by a certain
female poster with anger issues.
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"Debate is good, name calling and personal insults are childish and counterproductive. It's really not that hard to get one's point across without
being insulting."
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It appears that the only reason for the OT is so that ALL of the regular posters there use it ONLY for the reasons you mentioned
Bob Durrell
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PROGRESSIVE:
adjective
1.
favoring or advocating progress, change, improvement, or reform, as opposed to wishing to maintain things as they are, especially in political
matters:
a progressive mayor.
2.
making progress toward better conditions; employing or advocating more enlightened or liberal ideas, new or experimental methods, etc.:
a progressive community.
3.
characterized by such progress, or by continuous improvement.
4.
(initial capital letter) of or relating to any of the Progressive parties in politics.
5.
going forward or onward; passing successively from one member of a series to the next; proceeding step by step.
6.
noting or pertaining to a form of taxation in which the rate increases with certain increases in taxable income.
7.
of or relating to progressive education :
progressive schools.
noun
10.
a person who is progressive or who favors progress or reform, especially in political matters.
11.
(initial capital letter) a member of a Progressive party.
12.
Grammar.
the progressive aspect.
a verb form or construction in the progressive, as are thinking in They are thinking about it.
Don't believe everything you think....
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| Quote: Originally posted by durrelllrobert | "Debate is good, name calling and personal insults are childish and counterproductive. It's really not that hard to get one's point across without
being insulting."
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I regularly post there and I don't think what you say is true. There are a couple of guys that continually insult each other and that's unfortunate.
But, there are also a handful of off-topic participants that post interesting things and discuss current events without insulting others.
I've been hanging out on the message board while my back gets over an encounter with a heavy flower pot and I was thinking that if the off-topic board
got more exposure, there would be more posts by people that have something interesting to offer.
Just a thought.
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Dittos ...
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bajajudy
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| Quote: Originally posted by SFandH | | Quote: Originally posted by durrelllrobert | "Debate is good, name calling and personal insults are childish and counterproductive. It's really not that hard to get one's point across without
being insulting."
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It appears that the only reason for the OT is so that ALL of the regular posters there use it ONLY for the reasons you mentioned
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I regularly post there and I don't think what you say is true. There are a couple of guys that continually insult each other and that's unfortunate.
But, there are also a handful of off-topic participants that post interesting things and discuss current events without insulting others.
I've been hanging out on the message board while my back gets over an encounter with a heavy flower pot and I was thinking that if the off-topic board
got more exposure, there would be more posts by people that have something interesting to offer.
Just a thought. |
Still NO
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