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[*] posted on 4-11-2015 at 12:52 PM
San Felipe to El Rosario


I am considering a trip to El Rosario from San Felipe, I drive a 4X4 Ram PU. My maps are showing Highway 5, back to Ensenada and then down the coast, is there a "semi decent" dirt road that is worth considering. I have read of people taking off near Coco's Corner but I am having problems finding anything on a map. Any Suggestions? JH
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[*] posted on 4-11-2015 at 01:41 PM


Hwy. 5 goes to Laguna Chapala on Hwy. 1, 130 miles south from San Felipe... less than 30 miles are unpaved, but 2WD graded dirt, rocky and rough for weak vehicles or weak people perhaps?

Laguna Chapala to El Rosario is about 110 miles.

Total: 240 miles, beautiful views of the Sea of Cortez, wild desert landscape, boojum trees, etc. and no cities, or farm traffic, nada!

To go north, west, and then south via Ensenada:
300 miles, lots of towns, crossing the city of Ensenada, farm traffic... but no 30 miles of rough graded road.

You decide!


Again, it is paved to a point 10 miles north of Coco's Corner/ 13 miles south of Gonzaga Bay Pemex (Alfonsina's).

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[*] posted on 4-11-2015 at 01:43 PM


no brainer!



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[*] posted on 4-11-2015 at 01:53 PM


Just north of Coco's Corner, there is a road heading west to a turquoise mine. I have not been on it, but was told at Coco's that it was not passable.
I don't know if they meant to the mine, or to Mex 1, but I sure wouldn't recommend it alone!

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[*] posted on 4-11-2015 at 02:07 PM


Beware of recommendations from people who have not been on this road in a long time (maybe it is because they are weak):biggrin:. The 23 miles dirt section is getting worse but is traveled by semi's. Lots of up to date info by actual travelers on Talk Baja, a facebook page.
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[*] posted on 4-11-2015 at 02:18 PM


Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  
Just north of Coco's Corner, there is a road heading west to a turquoise mine. I have not been on it, but was told at Coco's that it was not passable.
I don't know if they meant to the mine, or to Mex 1, but I sure wouldn't recommend it alone!


AK... the La Turquesa Canyon road is an abandoned and washed out vehicle trail used by off road motorcycles, but has been traveled by at least one Nomad in his Land Rover, with help from TW and others clearing the way. See posts by The squarecircle and photos of his climb up the grade I posted for him....






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The top of the La Turquesa Grade. Congratulations to the squarecircle!

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[*] posted on 4-12-2015 at 08:30 AM


Went over the dirt section yesterday. Best condition it has been in since the hurricane. A bit rocky over the pass but the graders have done a good job on the south end. Maybe not US freeway standard road but passable with just about any vehicle with a reasonable driver.
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Quote: Originally posted by mjs  
Went over the dirt section yesterday. Best condition it has been in since the hurricane. A bit rocky over the pass but the graders have done a good job on the south end. Maybe not US freeway standard road but passable with just about any vehicle with a reasonable driver.


Thank you for posting a fresh, new confirmation of what I had been recently told and read, and personally experienced in the not too distant past! You can't beat Nomad for the current conditions.




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[*] posted on 4-12-2015 at 09:28 AM


Quote: Originally posted by mjs  
Went over the dirt section yesterday. Best condition it has been in since the hurricane. A bit rocky over the pass but the graders have done a good job on the south end. Maybe not US freeway standard road but passable with just about any vehicle with a reasonable driver.


Thanks for a recent report. 2 weeks ago, it was not smooth at all, but very passable (2 hours for us slow pokes). and the most recent reports complained of broken shocks and flat tires. When you say south end...do you mean the pass to Chapala? Hope the latest rains didn't hit there and mess it up.
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[*] posted on 4-12-2015 at 10:20 AM


Why not run the "cross-over" road from Valle de La Trinidad over to HWY1, and skip the Ensenada traffic.. Where the road meets the HWY your about an hour north of El Rosario..
I would guess a 3-4 trip from SF.. The "cross-over" offroad section is about 40 miles, but fast...




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[*] posted on 4-12-2015 at 01:44 PM


It's funny how different people have such different views of the graded road past Cocos to hwy 1 at Chapala. I've driven that road every year for almost 30 years. Twice already this year and getting ready to do it again in a couple of weeks during the NORRA race. I just view it as a graded road with some good spots and some bad spots. Would I take a car on it? No not unless it was an old beater. Would I pull an RV trailer over it? Not if I had an alternative. But I have no problem taking my GMC Z71 or my Tacoma 4x4 (without ATRAC, sorry DK) over it.

The first time my wife was with me she said it was the most ****** bumpy road she had ever been on.
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[*] posted on 4-12-2015 at 01:51 PM


A-TRAC is a 4WD LOW traction system. This road is 2WD easy.



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[*] posted on 4-12-2015 at 02:18 PM


Quote: Originally posted by TMW  
It's funny how different people have such different views of the graded road past Cocos to hwy 1 at Chapala. I've driven that road every year for almost 30 years. Twice already this year and getting ready to do it again in a couple of weeks during the NORRA race. I just view it as a graded road with some good spots and some bad spots. Would I take a car on it? No not unless it was an old beater. Would I pull an RV trailer over it? Not if I had an alternative. But I have no problem taking my GMC Z71 or my Tacoma 4x4 (without ATRAC, sorry DK) over it.

The first time my wife was with me she said it was the most ****** bumpy road she had ever been on.


I think that is what everybody has been saying. just different words and people take it at different speeds. Lots more traffic now including semi's which is why people are asking about conditions. Not like 30 years ago when we might not see anyone all day.
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