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[*] posted on 5-11-2015 at 07:38 AM
Inverter repair in BCS?


Our older ProSine 1000 inverter is giving us the message DCDC Shutdown.

Wonder if there is anyone/anywhere in BCS to take it to for repair - or if it is repairable?

Thanks, in advance, for any suggestions.
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[*] posted on 5-11-2015 at 08:49 AM


Marcos Cannet at Cannet Auto service is a master of all things electrical. Mulege, across from the paint store. He has re build alternators, pressure washers, blenders, fans, battery chargers and an inverter for me over the years ( before I learned to move everything in flood season) :)



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[*] posted on 5-11-2015 at 08:55 AM


I agree with willyAirstream , Marcos Cannet is tops and has Integrity also.



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[*] posted on 5-11-2015 at 09:11 AM


actually THIS is the guy for your repair

his name is Jim...call him first to see if the repair is worth it
he's in chino California...about 2 hours north of the border
(call in the morning when he answers)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/JB-Inverter-Repair-service-Trace-Xan...

usually its parts that are hard to get

but if its repairable he's the guy

I searched everywhere for a reliable person




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[*] posted on 5-11-2015 at 09:33 AM


Perfect. Thanks.
I am going to Long Beach in 2 weeks. I could take it with me.
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[*] posted on 5-11-2015 at 11:19 AM


remember its only worth $500 new...don't over spend



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[*] posted on 5-11-2015 at 05:21 PM


I believe that PROsine, is a Trace/Xantrax/Schneider product, the company has changed hands so many times, and has so many products, that unless it's a generic off the shelf component that failed. it's unlikely that parts are available. Stick with Outback or Magnum, they are US companies, built like tanks, and provide excellent service if something does fail.



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[*] posted on 5-11-2015 at 05:28 PM


anyone have a link to a repair guy in SD? I've inherited an Outback inverter "with a bad board" and it's out of warranty.



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[*] posted on 5-11-2015 at 05:31 PM


some of the parts in my "outback" charge controller are made in china

same for rthe magnum

an outback is a great inverter but the "tank" part is all CASE
the inside could be in a plastic box...the good part is "plug in parts"

outback they make the cases really heavy so people THINK they are getting something different/great

a real "inverter guy" can replace those "diodes" and other electric "stuff"...anything can be "fixed"...it only takes $$$

remember the old saying..."water will flow uphill to money"





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[*] posted on 5-11-2015 at 06:27 PM


This ProSine 1000 of ours was bought used many years ago so who knows how old it is. . .. .bought as a package deal. . . and been good to us.

But that said - really doubt parts are available and think we will go with something new and in the current technology realm.

Like all our Hughes Net stuff. . . We bought used systems for $125 or $150, brought them down, set them up and they worked fine for many years.

When the Exede installer came - he who has been doing installations since 1997 in the US - said these systems were 15 - 20 years old and no wonder they couldn't keep up with current technology.

So we are happy and will get another new one. Definitely not Outback, tho'.

No impressed with their products or service.

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Quote: Originally posted by woody with a view  
anyone have a link to a repair guy in SD? I've inherited an Outback inverter "with a bad board" and it's out of warranty.
Best to send it back to Outback, they will make sure it works correctly and the turn around time is about a week.



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[*] posted on 5-11-2015 at 07:42 PM


Quote: Originally posted by woody with a view  
anyone have a link to a repair guy in SD? I've inherited an Outback inverter "with a bad board" and it's out of warranty.


Outback is top of the line in my book. I have two of their inverters and when I accidentally shorted one and blew a control board I called their customer service and explained what happened and they told me to send it to them they would repair it under warranty even though it was way out of warranty. They paid for shipping both ways, and returned it in about a week good as new. Good company, good products. Not cheap stuff, but you get what you pay for. BTW, try to find anything with a circuit board in it that is not "made in China" and you will the prize. The big difference is that it is designed in the US and built to US specifications.




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[*] posted on 5-12-2015 at 05:46 AM


right now i have 3 Trace/Xantrax inverters and one outback

the outback is probably the best of the three...
i too have seen good service on the outback

the ONLY thing i dont like is that you have to use an "extra" mate to control it...beyone that its really good

in the 12 years i've had the Trace/Xantrax units
i've had to repair them several times...
as time goes by its getting harder and harder to find parts and someone that actually knows about their "guts" inside

when electricty finally arrives in the bay...i'll be FIRST in line





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Quote: Originally posted by woody with a view  
anyone have a link to a repair guy in SD? I've inherited an Outback inverter "with a bad board" and it's out of warranty.


I've had an Outback inverter go bad. Called their tech department and they helped me troubleshoot it. I bought a new board (and they gave me credit for the bad one) then replaced it myself. They have super clear instructions on how to replace it. If you know which end of a screwdriver to hold, you should have no problem repairing it yourself.
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[*] posted on 5-12-2015 at 06:08 AM


i'll try that.

[Edited on 5-12-2015 by woody with a view]




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[*] posted on 5-12-2015 at 08:48 AM


I have had Outback inverters for 15 years now and never had a problem with them. True you do need to buy a Mate to control the first one but if you stack inverters then that one mate, through a Hub, will control up to 10 inverters so you only have to buy the mate once. If it were built into the inverter then it would raise the price of the inverter and make your whole system more expensive.



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[*] posted on 5-12-2015 at 10:45 AM


another thing i found was the only reason to stack inverters is because you want to use 220v like larryC

otherwise one is usually enough...
just another reason for the "inverter store" to sell you an extra inverter

larry...why do you need 2 charge controllers?
if you brought down the current at a higher rate wouldnt the fm80 be all you needed...
just a question for me later...




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Quote: Originally posted by Bob and Susan  
another thing i found was the only reason to stack inverters is because you want to use 220v like larryC

otherwise one is usually enough...
just another reason for the "inverter store" to sell you an extra inverter

larry...why do you need 2 charge controllers?
if you brought down the current at a higher rate wouldnt the fm80 be all you needed...
just a question for me later...



Don't mean to answer for Larry, but as an old sailor, I try to always have two of everything. If one fails, it's better to have half power than no power. When you stack Outback inverters, it's not to create 220vac, (that is handled by the X-240 transformer) the Mate sets one inverter as the Master and the other(s) as slave. The slaves only activate when the current draw is going to exceed the capacity of the Master. Makes for a more efficient use of the power.

On another subject, I see Larry is running his system at 12 V so the amperage output of the charge controllers is pretty high, probably why he uses two.




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[*] posted on 5-12-2015 at 12:56 PM


ncampion nailed it for me. I use 2 charge controllers because my system is 12v and one charge controller is not big enough to handle all the amps my array puts out. If I was 24 or 48 v then one charge controller would do it for me. Also I went with 2 inverters because #1 now I have a back up and #2 I used to have a problem if I was in the garage and doing some welding and my wife would be in the kitchen and turn on the micro wave it would pop the 250 amp circuit breaker on the inverter DC input. Now with 2 inverters that doesn't happen anymore. If she turns on the micro wave the slave inverter wakes up and helps out the master inverter and when the micro wave or my welder is done the slave inverter goes back to sleep and waits for another surge before it wakes up again. I could have saved some money by having a 24v or 48 v system but it just started out 12v and grew until it was too expensive to change to a higher voltage.



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[*] posted on 5-12-2015 at 01:10 PM


larryC...if it works for you it works...but

you could wire the panels together and bring down the current at 48v
the fm80 will convert it to 12v to charge the batteries

i'm pretty sure you can bring down 5000w
you have about 2400w

as for the slave "going to sleep"...my stacked inverters never did




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