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jeans
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Is a Vaild US Passport now Requiered to return at the Border?
The US government has been saying for years that someday a passport will be necessary. Are they there yet? Until I got a Senri Pass, I used my Birth
Certificate, CDL, and a copy of my expired passport. Is that still good enough?
Mom always told me to be different - Now she says...Not THAT different
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AKgringo
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Sorry, no answer here, just a couple of questions. Don't you need a passprt (or card) to get a Sentri pass?
Also, isn't it required to get an FMM?
It is my understanding that you will be allowed to re-enter the US with proof of citizenship, but why risk extra delays that would possibly be
encountered?
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
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jeans
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I am asking for a possible visitor. I have a Passport card and a Sentri. My mother has lived in Rosarito for 30 yrs. and I have been coming here
since I was in High School, but I'm out of touch with what is required today.
Thanks for replying.
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David K
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They cannot deny an American from returning to his/her country. The passport just makes the process of IDing you easier for the border gaurd. People I
know have had no issues without one. PS good to see a new post from you!
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Bajahowodd
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Quote: Originally posted by David K  | | They cannot deny an American from returning to his/her country. The passport just makes the process of IDing you easier for the border gaurd. People I
know have had no issues without one. PS good to see a new post from you! |
Correct, although it may get you sent to secondary.
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bajaguy
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Actually, once you cross that yellow line on the pavement before you get to the CBP booth you are in the US. They can't send you back, but they can
send you to secondary
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David K
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Yes they can... as any of us with or without passports can. Both of our sons have been to Baja the past years since the passport rule was announced,
and neither had to go to secondary having just a birth certificate or just a CA drivers license. I am not saying it is a-OK to not get one, I am just
assuring jeans that her friend cannot be denied entry back into the U.S. if he/she is a legal U.S. resident.
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mtgoat666
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They can do whatever they want to. Cbp can deny entry to anyone deemed a threat to sovereignty. Many Americans raised in mexico are treated as
Mexicans by cbp, the cbp routinely denies usa citizens entry if they try to enter with birth certificate and a foreign accent. If you are going to
try crossing with only a birth certificate, make sure you don't look or sound like a foreigner.
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BornFisher
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No, is the answer to your question.
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Bajafun777
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Jeans, just have them bring their driver's License and a certified birth certificate if they have it. Two forms of identification will make getting
back into the USA much easier. Most Customs Agents look over the IDs and pass you through. However, once in while you will get a Customs Agent that
will give you a lecture of why you should have the passport. Just politely say you know and will get one for the next visit, they will not deny your
friend re-entry into the USA.
If your friend likes Mexico have them go to the Post Office and get the passport card, as it is only about $40 dollars and lets them do the Ready Lane
either in car or on foot. Take Care and Travel Safe-----"No Hurry, No Worry, Just FUN" bajafun777
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Ateo
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Just hope Obama isn't filling in for your booth inspector. He will surely send your friends back to Mexico, then call in a drone strike. Life was so
much better when George W was around.
JK
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jeans
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| Quote: Originally posted by Ateo | Just hope Obama isn't filling in for your booth inspector. He will surely send your friends back to Mexico, then call in a drone strike. Life was so
much better when George W was around.
JK
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Oh...thanks for your "helpful" answer. Proud of yourself?
For those that took the time to give a useful answer.....thank you...
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DENNIS
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Hey, Mindy......as I'm sure you know, customer attitude at the border is everything. Even an apology[of sorts] for deviating from the supposed rules
will go a long way.
Insisting on strict adherence to "rights' as some people think they know them, could make for a long day in secondary.
Nice to see you, by the way.
"YOU CAN'T LITTER ALUMINUM"
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Udo
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YEAH!
5 hours for me!
| Quote: Originally posted by DENNIS |
Hey, Mindy......as I'm sure you know, customer attitude at the border is everything. Even an apology[of sorts] for deviating from the supposed rules
will go a long way.
Insisting on strict adherence to "rights' as some people think they know them, could make for a long day in secondary.
Nice to see you, by the way. |
Udo
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JoeJustJoe
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I used to cross the US border all the time, and I still cross occasionally, mostly by foot, because the lines are very short back into the US after
about 12 midnight, on weeknights where the wait is about five minutes.
There are a large percentage of people still using drivers licenses, and birth certificates, although they're supposed to have a passport or passcard.
Most custom agents, don't tell them a thing, and at the worse you might hear a custom agent, telling the people about the passport requirement while
they are waving them through.
I have also taken family members and friends from out of town to Tijuana, and they never had a problem crossing back into the US because they didn't
have a passport.
Sure you might run into a rude customs agent with a chip on his shoulder who might send you to secondary, but he might have sent you to secondary
regardless if you had a passport or not.
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Ateo
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Someone can't take a joke. You had plenty of answers before I came along........figured I'd mix it up a little.
| Quote: Originally posted by jeans | | Quote: Originally posted by Ateo | Just hope Obama isn't filling in for your booth inspector. He will surely send your friends back to Mexico, then call in a drone strike. Life was so
much better when George W was around.
JK
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Oh...thanks for your "helpful" answer. Proud of yourself?
For those that took the time to give a useful answer.....thank you... |
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soylent_green
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since 2009, US citizens are required to enter the US with a US passport.
you can go around and around as to whether you do or do not actually need on, but legally the answer is yes.
get the passport
if you are pressed for time, then go to downtown san diego passport office and you will have it for an extra $60 fee. You will have it in 2 days. and
then have to worry again about getting one in 10 years.
Whenever I take anyone to Mexico, I make sure they have a passport. Everyone should follow that rule IMO
No one likes to be in a car that got sent into secondary because one guy decided he really didn't need to get a passport because he or she won't be
denied entry to US.
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yellowklr
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If you can afford to travel you can afford a passport……….IT iS THE LAW
Derek
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jeans
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| Quote: Originally posted by DENNIS |
....as I'm sure you know, customer attitude at the border is everything. Even an apology[of sorts] for deviating from the supposed rules will go a
long way.
Insisting on strict adherence to "rights' as some people think they know them, could make for a long day in secondary.
Nice to see you, by the way. |
My mother learned the hard way that the shortest route to Secondary is to angrily ask the agent, "Do you get paid more for being an a$$hole?"
Yep, Dennis, I hear ya about customer attitude at the border...good thing I'm a lot nicer. 
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tjsue
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I don't have a passport. I do, however, have a passport card and Sentri. If you're using either one of those, a passport isn't required. I used the
passport card to cross the border until I got the Sentri, and was never asked for a passport.
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