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gnukid
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International Conference on Climate Change Keynote
International Conference on Climate Change Keynote
6/11/15 Keynote
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/63518954
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wessongroup
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Interesting "take" on things ... I'll stick with this
Oil consumption oil vs CO2… respectively
http://www.api.org/statistics/
http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/
Which is "empirical" evidence developed by industry and science
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China??
How much fossil fuel does China use and what is China's C02 output as compared to other countries??
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David K
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Good one, only in capitalist countries does our civilization change the climate. Communist regimes get a pass each time!
Climate changes naturally, always has and always will... The graphs are only showing CO2 estimates based on ?? science ?? WHERE are the temperature
graphs...??? You know the ones for the SAME period of years that show the earth is still in a cool period, historically, and that the norm is much
warmer! For the skyrocket CO2 graph to not be paired with a temperature graph for the same years, it is obviously meant to scare folks and get more
funding!
What is the oil production graph supposed to do? Get us to ride a horse? Stop making pacemakers and everything else with plastic?
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Funny how so many deniers on this board turn to the same climate scientists when a hurricane is forming. Reminds me of those who pick and choose from
the Bible....
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woody with a view
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I just wonder what was going on 650,001 years ago. do the Govt funded scientists need more $ to get a solid grip on THAT data?
[Edited on 6-12-2015 by woody with a view]
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gnukid
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Interesting Panel 1: Climate Science:
There is no north american or US congressional senate support for any climate change legislation or carbon tax which has no demonstrable affect on
reduction of pollution.
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/63524134
Panel 7: Climate Policy and National Security
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/63543030
[Edited on 6-12-2015 by gnukid]
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Well it would have been a lot better if the keynote had asked all the "scientists" there if they had "consensus" on The Great Lakes!
What dug 'em: GLACIERS! Wow, that's right. Where are they now? MELTED! Ok so what made 'em melt? GLOBAL WARMING!
So what caused that? You think it was Cave Men barbecuing too many Mastodons or maybe too much Sabre Tooth Tiger flatulence? Nope...it just happens
every now and then.
BTW: The idea that there can be "consensus" among scientists on any subject is stupid...it doesn't happen....science requires skepticism and inquiry
and not dogmatic positions. That is what produced the Spanish Inquisition. "Global Warming" which has been renamed "Climate Change" because the
globe hasn't warmed in 17 years and not much more than .01 C in a long, long time, is not a science but a political religion that is the home of
people who used to be called Soviets or communists who love to control thought and action and build tyranny with themselves in charge.
Wake up!
BB
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David K
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I just love it when 'thinking' Nomads post instead of those that post up government and leftist links! Good morning BB, it is a beautiful day, even if
the 'end' in near (or not)!
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Quote: Originally posted by David K  | | I just love it when 'thinking' Nomads post instead of those that post up government and leftist links! Good morning BB, it is a beautiful day, even if
the 'end' in near (or not)! |
So people that have an opinion other than yours on climate change, and there are many, are not thinking? That is the implication of what you said.
Why must you insult people that have an opinion other than yours?
[Edited on 6-12-2015 by SFandH]
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David K
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SFandH, not what I said or meant... BB typed his opinion and didn't just post a link or a graph. He thought about something and shared it.
I am not here to insult anyone, the closest might be to retort back to the numerous insults I get here for sharing my thoughts. Have you defended me
ever?
I just wish you kids and grown ups would trust your own eyes instead of some bureaucrat thousands of miles away, who has never been to a beach
repeatedly to see the homes, businesses, palm trees, etc. that were just inches above high tide 50 years ago, and still are today!
'Chicken Little' was not taught to any of you? Fear is a great motivator, but let it be fear of something real, not projected or guessed...
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bonanza bucko
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We are in severe danger of allowing dogma to dictate public policy. I think it may be worthwhile to remember one of the last times that happened in
the late 1930s when Phrenology (the study of bumps on the human head) and measurements of facial characteristics were used by the N-zis to decide who
was going to be "Aryan" and who was going to be enslaved or murdered.
That was "scientific consensus" in Germany then and lots and lots of normal, honest everyday Germans said nothing against it; they believed their
leaders and marched behind them.
We can't let pseudo science and dogma allow people who think this through to be called "deniers." That is dangerous and an insult to human
intelligence and scientific inquiry both of which reject dogma.
BB
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SFandH
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Thanks for stating your opinion without insulting those who disagree with it.
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SFandH
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Oh, so people who post just graphs and links to information are not thinking?
Like gnukid, the original poster?
[Edited on 6-12-2015 by SFandH]
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gnukid
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“First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, and then you win.”
― Mahatma Gandhi
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Oh, here we go again with a "thinker/non-thinker", "left-right", and " "facts vs. opinion" circular thread......
In the meantime....it's happening all over the planet.....not really related to communism (the 50's boogeyman).....
Don't believe everything you think....
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woody with a view
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all valid info above, but haven't humans been walking upright for over 6 million years? if we know that much why does all of the expert climate data
only go back 650,000 years?
and does it really matter? we'll all be dead in 50 years anyway and I bet the planet will go right on spinning! future generations can debate if 10
billion people were the reason for the warmth or not.
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | SFandH, not what I said or meant... BB typed his opinion and didn't just post a link or a graph. He thought about something and shared it.
I am not here to insult anyone, the closest might be to retort back to the numerous insults I get here for sharing my thoughts. Have you defended me
ever?
I just wish you kids and grown ups would trust your own eyes instead of some bureaucrat thousands of miles away, who has never been to a beach
repeatedly to see the homes, businesses, palm trees, etc. that were just inches above high tide 50 years ago, and still are today!
'Chicken Little' was not taught to any of you? Fear is a great motivator, but let it be fear of something real, not projected or guessed...
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At least you are CONSISTENTLY delusional. I kind of like how you have now condensed-down the vast majority of the world's scientists to "some
bereaurat (sic) thousands of miles away". If only the world's problems were as simple as a children's book. I judge your day will be blissful.
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
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The vast majority of deniers of climate change are fundamentalist Christians welcoming the end times.
How about a survey of Nomads Who agree with this ridiculous crap:
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Additional "ice core" samples have been obtained ... which now can be taken back to 850,000 years ...
No change in the findings ...
Assume they® want to get as many samples as possible ... given the rapid rate of ice "melt" at both poles, at this time 
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