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bezzell
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El Chapo on da loose
surprise !!!
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/07/12/us-mexcio-guzman-i...
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bledito
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coming to a town near you???
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DENNIS
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No surprise. Wonder how Peña Nieto feels about it?
"YOU CAN'T LITTER ALUMINUM"
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chuckie
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Dennis said it, no surprise...Pretty hard to keep a billionaire in a Mexican prison....
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"The flight of Guzman... seriously undermines Pena Nieto's pledge to bring order to a country racked by years of gang violence...
"Before his election victory, politicians in Pena Nieto's Institutional Revolutionary Party (PRI) mocked their conservative rivals for letting Guzman
escape while they ran the country, saying it would not have happened on their watch."
http://www.newsweek.com/drug-lord-chapo-guzman-escapes-maxim...
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Ateo
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Quote: Originally posted by BajaNomad  |
"The flight of Guzman... seriously undermines Pena Nieto's pledge to bring order to a country racked by years of gang violence...
"Before his election victory, politicians in Pena Nieto's Institutional Revolutionary Party (PRI) mocked their conservative rivals for letting Guzman
escape while they ran the country, saying it would not have happened on their watch."
http://www.newsweek.com/drug-lord-chapo-guzman-escapes-maxim... |
Yeah, that's gotta hurt. Just goes to show you that politicians play politics with any issue they can, till it comes back to bite them in the butt.
They have very little control over these cartels, the illegal drug trade, and the nasty violence that it perpetuates.
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BajaNomad
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"In a brief morning news conference, Rubido said that Guzman was last seen inside the prison around 8 p.m. while receiving his daily dose of
medication. After guards realized he had disappeared, they found the hatch that led by ladder down to the tunnel, which was illuminated, perforated
with PVC piping for ventilation and equipped with adapted motorcycle-on-rails to whisk the drug lord to freedom."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/drug-lord-chapo-guzman-...
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BornFisher
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| Quote: Originally posted by BajaNomad | "they found the hatch that led by ladder down to the tunnel, which was illuminated, perforated with PVC piping for ventilation and equipped with
adapted motorcycle-on-rails to whisk the drug lord to freedom."
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Just a motorcycle? What happened to the limo?
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SFandH
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And to keep two poor murders in a New York prison.
Now the Mexicans have a legal reason to kill the guy. Maybe they'll find him. Of course he will resist arrest and be shot.
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durrelllrobert
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| Quote: Originally posted by BornFisher | | Quote: Originally posted by BajaNomad | "they found the hatch that led by ladder down to the tunnel, which was illuminated, perforated with PVC piping for ventilation and equipped with
adapted motorcycle-on-rails to whisk the drug lord to freedom."
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Just a motorcycle? What happened to the limo? |
Motorcycle cost more than his limo.
Bob Durrell
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bajabuddha
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I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!
86 - 45*
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You'd think that given Chapo's history with tunneling, they would have given him an upstairs cell.
"The future ain't what it used to be"
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The warden should have been suspicious when El Chapo did not demand a penthouse suite! Notice that the article stated that he escaped through HIS
shower, not THE shower that othe prisoners used.
What kind of prison was he in?...Never mind, dumb question.
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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bajabuddha
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I guess you could say Chapo Trumped Nieto... that's going to give the wing-nuts some real gunpowder now. Load the cannons!
I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!
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The American Taliban delivering Meals on Wheels???? 
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
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What gives me the giggles is that Guzman is only 5 ft 6in. How intimidating. 
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Reality. Deal with it!
Guzman and his cartel run the country. With his long political tentacles, local and national, (and tunnels), he cannot be contained.
Drugs are pervasive in Mexico's youth. You see it in every city and pueblo. And The United States is Guzman's biggest client. How sad.That is not
going to change.
I have written here several years past that all the Mexican Government can do is to turn a blind eye and let The Sinaloa Cartel do their thing. In
return, a deal could be made that the resistance and violence be diminished between government and the Sinaloa Cartel.
With that kind of power, the Sinaloa Cartel can receive clandestine government assistance in order to eliminate competitor cartels. They already
dominate. Eventually, when they have free reign, and their competitors are eliminated, the violence will be pretty much curtailed.
The "War on Drugs" never worked. It is just a big waste of money and lives. The lust for drugs and addiction will always be. Let them have it and let
them kill themselves. Tough Love! (...or Tough S***). Parents, let them go. They are gone anyway.
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Ateo
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| Quote: Originally posted by toneart |
The "War on Drugs" never worked. It is just a big waste of money and lives. The lust for drugs and addiction will always be. Let them have it and let
them kill themselves. Tough Love! (...or Tough S***). Parents, let them go. They are gone anyway. |
Yep, a total waste of $$$ and lives. We should have a war on sex and see how that goes. Human nature is hard to control. We love our booze, our
drugs (legal and illegal), and endless other addictions. Some people's brains are wired to love getting high. I would argue that they don't even
have free will in some instances. We need smarter drugs laws. We need more compassion. Locking up drug addicts is close to immoral. They need
treatment. I completely disagree with your statement to "let them go".
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toneart
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| Quote: Originally posted by Ateo | | Quote: Originally posted by toneart |
The "War on Drugs" never worked. It is just a big waste of money and lives. The lust for drugs and addiction will always be. Let them have it and let
them kill themselves. Tough Love! (...or Tough S***). Parents, let them go. They are gone anyway. |
Yep, a total waste of $$$ and lives. We should have a war on sex and see how that goes. Human nature is hard to control. We love our booze, our
drugs (legal and illegal), and endless other addictions. Some people's brains are wired to love getting high. I would argue that they don't even
have free will in some instances. We need smarter drugs laws. We need more compassion. Locking up drug addicts is close to immoral. They need
treatment. I completely disagree with your statement to "let them go". |
"...let them go is a tough one". It is a terrible heartache for the families, whether they try and help or whether they let them go. Fortunately,
neither I nor family are involved with drugs, so I am somewhat removed from the problem.
Your word "Compassion" got to me. Yes, compassion is needed throughout this troubled world today. I am not stuck on a "let them go" stance. I was
trying to offer a tough opinion as a solution, but I am willing to soften, Ateo. Thank you for your contribution.
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AKgringo
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Tony, I know your home town, I grew up there and have rural property in an area that you would surely be familiar with. You are probably also aware
of the booming marijuana industry in your county, but it is not a victim less, above board, lawful industry.
Unlike you, I have lost a brother, and sister in law to drugs, and at this moment I have a brother in law and his wife that have lost everything due
to meth use, which is the companion product in the underground canibus industry. Meth does more damage faster than heroin, and it's use is rampant in
your county.
Those who can no longer hold a job, but need their meth, will rip off friends
and family first then move on to you and I.
I am in AK right now, but someday I would like to sit with you in Mulege or G.V. and answer questions that you may have, but not on this forum please.
Besides, I don't want to hijack Bezzel's topic.
Edit; I have no problem with those who use pot moderately, or grow their own, I am just saying there is a dark, dangerous side to the underground
growers business.
[Edited on 7-13-2015 by AKgringo]
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
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