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Fatboy
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Odd spot for a 'Rock Wall'
There is what appears to be a rock wall running down to the beach here.
I do not see any roads in the area or ranchos.
Has any Nomads been here?
Any ideas as to why it is there?
It is marked as 'Hmmmm' on this shot....
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Fatboy
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Zooming in....
  
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Closer view and a view from looking up from the beach....
  
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StuckSucks
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Just curious, but why do you think this is a rock wall? I agree that this appears to be man-made - are we looking at the shadow of a ditch? Also, is
that black line to the northeast related in any way?
https://goo.gl/maps/PokdW
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StuckSucks
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To support you fence/wall argument Fatboy, there appears to be an opening on the east end with a clear trail leading thru the opening.
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David K
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It is actually a well known oddity... The fishing boats all see it as they go by, too.
See this thread in 2012, scroll down: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=64241
We both covered it similarly!
There are many mystery walls in the region... The ones 2 miles from Las Animas Bay were reported on in 1966 by Choral Pepper, as a possible lost
mission site for Santa Maria Magdalena: http://vivabaja.com/109 for more on those walls.
[Edited on 7-17-2015 by David K]
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TMW
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I was thinking that sometime when I'm at Panchos and there is a fishing crew there I would get them to take me to the wall and check it out.
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larryC
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I first saw that wall in the mid 70's from my boat. We stopped and looked at it for awhile trying to figure out what it could be intended for. It
appears to be about 4' tall and quite long maybe a half mile or so. What got me wondering later is that where the wall is located is not a rocky
hillside. almost as it some one brought those rocks there from somewhere else to build the wall. Then thinking about it some more I wondered why
someone would build it. Maybe to keep cattle or goats from wandering off, but it is open on both the east and west end. Maybe it was going to be a
giant corral and was just never completed.
Quien sabe?
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Fatboy
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Just curious, but why do you think this is a rock wall? I agree that this appears to be man-made - are we looking at the shadow of a ditch? Also, is
that black line to the northeast related in any way?
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I do not know what it is hence the quote marks around rock wall in my post...
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It is actually a well known oddity... The fishing boats all see it as they go by, too.
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The reason I like this sight....you can actually get answers! Gonna go read that read in a minute!
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The ones 2 miles from Las Animas Bay were reported on in 1966 by Choral Pepper, as a possible lost mission site for Santa Maria Magdalena
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Yes that is an interesting site...when I hiked up there a number of years ago I cam across a rock that looked like a + or a cross scratched in it....I
wish I had the pictue but it was on a hard drive that crashed 
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I first saw that wall in the mid 70's from my boat. We stopped and looked at it for awhile trying to figure out what it could be intended for. It
appears to be about 4' tall and quite long maybe a half mile or so. What got me wondering later is that where the wall is located is not a rocky
hillside. almost as it some one brought those rocks there from somewhere else to build the wall. Then thinking about it some more I wondered why
someone would build it. Maybe to keep cattle or goats from wandering off, but it is open on both the east and west end. Maybe it was going to be a
giant corral and was just never completed.
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Ahhhh the mystery deepens, tall..appears to serve no real purpose...rocks possibly carried there....
You know if I was of the religious type that is what I would wish for a heaven ,,,, an answer to the mysteries in this universe
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TMW
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Larry is the hill side steep?
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StuckSucks
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David K: you meant to say http://www.vivabaja.com/109/
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David K
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YES, of course... THANK YOU! I guess I NEED a vacation!!!  
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AKgringo
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Why would someone build it?
Could it have been built by shepherds with time on their hands to improve the pasture land? That would possibly explain why there are no loose rocks
around it.
I would like to visit it someday, but it sounds like it is non-drivable in my SUV.
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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David K
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Quote: Originally posted by Fatboy  |
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Just curious, but why do you think this is a rock wall? I agree that this appears to be man-made - are we looking at the shadow of a ditch? Also, is
that black line to the northeast related in any way?
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I do not know what it is hence the quote marks around rock wall in my post...
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It is actually a well known oddity... The fishing boats all see it as they go by, too.
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The reason I like this sight....you can actually get answers! Gonna go read that read in a minute!
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The ones 2 miles from Las Animas Bay were reported on in 1966 by Choral Pepper, as a possible lost mission site for Santa Maria Magdalena
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Yes that is an interesting site...when I hiked up there a number of years ago I cam across a rock that looked like a + or a cross scratched in it....I
wish I had the pictue but it was on a hard drive that crashed
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I first saw that wall in the mid 70's from my boat. We stopped and looked at it for awhile trying to figure out what it could be intended for. It
appears to be about 4' tall and quite long maybe a half mile or so. What got me wondering later is that where the wall is located is not a rocky
hillside. almost as it some one brought those rocks there from somewhere else to build the wall. Then thinking about it some more I wondered why
someone would build it. Maybe to keep cattle or goats from wandering off, but it is open on both the east and west end. Maybe it was going to be a
giant corral and was just never completed.
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Ahhhh the mystery deepens, tall..appears to serve no real purpose...rocks possibly carried there....
You know if I was of the religious type that is what I would wish for a heaven ,,,, an answer to the mysteries in this universe
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Here are the Las Animas walls... and they were made from rocks on the slope... as there is quite a clearing close to the walls...
As you can see, they are not very tall... perfect for sitting!
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StuckSucks
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Thanks everybody - I have a new Baja destination.
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David K
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Baja is a GREAT place to explore, and see what humans did in the desert hundreds or thousands of years ago!!!
In the future, someone will wonder what the purpose of many things we build!
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larryC
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As I remember it was fairly steep and you can see from the GE shots that it doesn't appear that they used local surrounding rocks to build the thing
as they did at the animas walls that David is sitting on. I have only been there by boat so maybe an up close inspection is in order. November through
April would be good months to go down there.
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TMW
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Thanks, it's probably worth a sight visit to check out further.
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AKgringo
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I plan on being in that general area some time from mid October through November, and would like to see if I can get near the wall.
I will bring this thread back up when I firm up a date I would prefer company (or at least back up) so if anyone else is going to be near there
about that time, give a shout out!
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
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monoloco
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Those old straight walls were commonly built to delineate the borders of land parcels. There are several of them near me in Pescadero.
"The future ain't what it used to be"
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