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[*] posted on 8-15-2015 at 08:50 PM
Bahia Concepcion roads


Any of you Nomads know if it's possible to access the East side of Bay of Concepcion with a rental car. Or is it 4WD only. Looking for a little solitude this October. Kind of hard finding a good road map online.
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[*] posted on 8-15-2015 at 09:36 PM


Quote: Originally posted by sd2hi  
Any of you Nomads know if it's possible to access the East side of Bay of Concepcion with a rental car. Or is it 4WD only. Looking for a little solitude this October. Kind of hard finding a good road map online.


It depends on whether or not you have the "walk away" insurance on the rental...

Seriously, you can go out there a ways in a 2wd car, even further in a high clearance vehicle and pretty much anywhere you want in 4wd. It is remote, take lots of water and basic supplies, a shovel would be a good idea. Let someone responsible know you are going out there and when you plan to return so that they can come and look for you if you don't show up. I've been out there several times, fun place. Don't go in the summer, it's too hot to enjoy....




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[*] posted on 8-16-2015 at 12:57 AM


Thinking of mid October
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[*] posted on 8-16-2015 at 05:25 AM


AND! DO NOT leave your car out of your sight for even a minute...



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[*] posted on 8-16-2015 at 06:54 AM


I wouldn't recommend using a 'normal' rental car for the east cape road at all; too many rocks and humps, you'll lose your oil pan for sure. If you rent a Cross-over with some clearance, you should be ok if you're careful.

Also, if there has been any moisture whatsoever in the last week before your trip, the south mud flats are no-man's land. They start less than a mile off the Highway just past the old Gov't RV Park ruins, and run a couple of miles. There've been lots of 4x4's buried to the frame trying to get across when wet, so watch the preceding weather.




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[*] posted on 8-16-2015 at 07:27 AM


First thing you do is take off the hubcaps. Put them on when you get back. On a good road you will find a pothole. The little rental cars are just too low for any extended dirt road . The dirt road can be smooth. but it has a crown in it and the plastic undercarriage will find the rock, in the high part of the road. The rock can hit the engine or trans also. The tires on them are not the best, I rent 3 times a year and have always had some damage to my car.
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[*] posted on 8-16-2015 at 07:54 AM


The airport rental car companies in Loreto have 4x4 Jeeps for rent. I've rented from Fox a couple of times. Ive gotten the best rents from their website directly, as opposed to expedia, kayak, etc.
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[*] posted on 8-16-2015 at 09:49 AM


get your Jeep well in advance. They are usually rented out quickly. And most expensive to rent. Fox is cheaper than Alamo last time I used it.
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[*] posted on 8-16-2015 at 03:08 PM


Make sure the 4WD is not disabled by the rental company! I read of that happening in Cabo so you couldn't go off roading in their Jeeps!

The poster asked about the East Side of Bahia Concepcion, not East Cape. The one road on the east side of the bay is not a graded road like the East Cape road is.

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[*] posted on 8-16-2015 at 04:30 PM


This has been on my bucket list since forever - I need to budget time the next time I'm in the neighborhood. Sounds like 3-4 days is a good amount. With the use of Google Earth, I discovered a ton of potential side-trips.



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[*] posted on 8-16-2015 at 04:56 PM


Great info, thanks.

If a can't find a reasonably priced rental vehicle what do you folks think of hiring a panguero to take me across and pick me up a few days later? I'm flying in to Loreto and have 2 weeks to enjoy the bahia.
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[*] posted on 8-16-2015 at 05:27 PM


A friend of mine, a Mulege native, runs a panga out of Santispac. The boat's name is Karla (his granddaughter), it has either a blue or yellow bimini top, I can't remember. He has the necessary permits from Santa Rosalia to take tourists on boat rides. Nice clean panga with a good Yamaha Enduro 48 motor. His name is Jose Manuel, nickname Chemanuel. He'll take you over to the east side and pick you up. Trustworthy guy, good fishing guide too. He knows where the trigger fish are.

Tip him good if you can afford it. He supports a large extended family in Mulege.


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[*] posted on 8-17-2015 at 04:41 PM


Quote: Originally posted by chuckie  
AND! DO NOT leave your car out of your sight for even a minute...


Are you aware of problems over there? I was thinking of taking my boat across and hiking around, but it would mean leaving my boat out of my sight. Wasn't sure if you were just joking or there's really something to worry about...
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[*] posted on 8-17-2015 at 05:45 PM


If you search back a few years, there were incidents at the south end of the bay (old government trailer park) and on the Concepcion Peninsula (although I don't recall those). It may be old history, but never leave anything that could be started up and taken away when you are away on a walk-about.



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[*] posted on 8-17-2015 at 06:13 PM


The east side is worth exploring, for sure. The above info is helpful (south end issues a few years ago seemed to be thefts from parked vehicles)...

DT Bushpilot and I spent a day there a few years ago by moto....some images:

The road and fish camps...and outdoor program's sailboats....












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[*] posted on 8-17-2015 at 07:50 PM


Regardless of what people think, the east peninsula is not 'remote'. There are vehicles on that road daily, several temporary fish camps, supply mini-trucks, pescadores in pangas looking for schools, so comparatively to the other side yes, you'll find solitude...... mostly. If you love it and you leave it, LOCK IT. You're not alone in the Baja.



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[*] posted on 8-17-2015 at 08:07 PM


Thanks for posting that article, David K!
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[*] posted on 8-17-2015 at 09:59 PM


De nada Rider!
Erle Stanley Gardner (Perry Mason creator and Baja explorer) was fascinated with the Concepcion peninsula... back in the 1960's when there really wasn't a road or anyone out there.
Funny part was that after exploring it so well, building a runway for Capt. Muņoz to land over there, and then writing all about it in his 1967 'Off the Beaten Track in Baja', he never mentioned the mine!??




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[*] posted on 8-18-2015 at 07:16 AM


Figure around 130/140 miles round trip from the Pemex south end of Mulege, plus whatever sidetrips and so on.

The rancho folks are great out there.

I would expect that the recent rains have caused erosion damage in a few spots past El Salto rancho area; the track deteriorates as you go north. Take a shovel for sure. Also, this area I've seen more rattlers than anyplace else local, esp bushes near shore.
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[*] posted on 8-18-2015 at 09:08 AM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
De nada Rider!
Erle Stanley Gardner (Perry Mason creator and Baja explorer) was fascinated with the Concepcion peninsula... back in the 1960's when there really wasn't a road or anyone out there.
Funny part was that after exploring it so well, building a runway for Capt. Muņoz to land over there, and then writing all about it in his 1967 'Off the Beaten Track in Baja', he never mentioned the mine!??


Maybe the mine is where Earl buried the treasure?!?
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