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rts551
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La Paz. Maybe things will become a little safer- not so killings are increasing
After the clean-up is over (4 dead in the last 2 days).
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3245907/Revealed-ris...
[Edited on 9-27-2015 by rts551]
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After reading the story two things come to mind; 1), If she's in a La Paz prison she'll probably still be in control of her operations by proxy... and
2) as far as La Paz being safer, there will be a battle of wanna-be bosses fighting for the spoils. What is, is. I don't see La Paz becoming safer
or less crime in the near or distant future, if at all. The mainland has proven that; money and power corrupts, and Mexico has plenty of both right
now.
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rts551
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She is in Mexico City.....but
and retribution or fight over turf....I expect retribution (from the Siniloa cartel) is occurring.
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Is it dangerous for folks like us in La Paz because drug cartel members are killing each other? Are these killings happening in the nicer areas of
town where tourists and expats are or are they happening in the poorer areas where "we" wouldn't go anyway?
I know it's a drag but how dangerous is it really?
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If you look at the 170 killings since this stuff started, its all over. La China was responsible (one of the charges) for a killing on the malecon.
Oxxo's, restaurants etc have had killings. One whole family (2 kids) taken out in one car.
My friends in the Abreojos coop fish store say they do not go out at night any more, anywhere..and advise me to do the same.
That being said...Many people say they feel safe because it is between cartels. They say they have not changed their lifestyle at all.
I tend to be aware of my surroundings (whenever I am in any city) and I do listen to the locals except for those who have a vested interest in the
tourist industry.
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I think it will get worse before it gets better with more fighting for turf in La Paz and surrounding area. While the violence is certainly cartel
related, one could get caught in crossfire. Our relatives in La Paz dont go out at night and are very very cautious where they go but you cant really
not go to taco stands, big stores, the malecon etc. but everyone is more worried than before.
Ralf, are you saying that the coop guys wont go out after dark in Abreojos? That is just not the case here in Asuncion....the streets are full of
people, kids and families at night here!
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rts551
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Quote: Originally posted by shari  | I think it will get worse before it gets better with more fighting for turf in La Paz and surrounding area. While the violence is certainly cartel
related, one could get caught in crossfire. Our relatives in La Paz dont go out at night and are very very cautious where they go but you cant really
not go to taco stands, big stores, the malecon etc. but everyone is more worried than before.
Ralf, are you saying that the coop guys wont go out after dark in Abreojos? That is just not the case here in Asuncion....the streets are full of
people, kids and families at night here! |
Shari, the coop has a store/restaurant in La Paz. Its where we staay sometimes when going to La Paz. I was referring to them....In Abreojos, we
can not stay out of the streets!
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If La China is truly in Mexico City, did she get Chapo's old cell? She could just dig a little deeper and tunnel out in Beijing! 
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unfortunately, in La Paz, there is no area that is safe anymore! they are killing people on the malecon - in restaurants downtown -anywhere at all.
we were there a year ago summertime for a monthlong stay and it was the most peaceful town. we went out on the streets morning noon and night. Now,
we wont even return for a vacation until it changes back to peace.
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We were in La Paz for a week this past June and we didn't notice anything different from previous stays; Malecon was still packed at night,
restaurants were busy, etc. We did hear about an isolated incident involving gunfire on the Malecon but it seems that most of the violence is in
neighborhoods that I wouldn't visit because as a tourist I have no reason to go.
Full disclosure: we also go to Acapulco every winter for at least a week each year. We just booked our trip for January; you just can't beat the
weather. Aside from the lack of foreign tourists (and therefore hurting businesses) we haven't noticed much of a difference there either. Again, the
killings we read about are mostly taking place in areas that we wouldn't have a reason to visit.
Nowhere is completely safe; I still shake my head about the college senior who was murdered at UCLA this past weekend and then had her apartment set
on fire. I would have never thought something like that would happen in Westwood.
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Hola,
wow, it is really sad that this wonderful town is having cartel problems out in the open. i used to visit and stay for a few days and eat at the
restaurants as at the time, there weren't very many good restaurants in los barriles and i didn't want to go to the tourist trap in cabo san lucas.
years ago, when i lived in los barriles, a very good mexican friend told me do not go to the carnival in la paz.
he told me after they captured a major cartel member there, the police found a car with automatic rifles and they said the people they arrested were
going to shoot people on the malecon during the festivities as retribution.
BIEN SALUD, DA RAT
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The Fact of the Matter
If the usa wasn't so hungry for drugs and this insane " war on Drugs" mexico would not have this problem plain and simple !! The Usa gov dosnt care
if you do drugs...it cares about who's drugs your doing !! I got to know some local's at "ollies point" in south nicky.. after 3/4 month's was shown
a pic of this guy and his brother with backpacks on walking towards a us marine plane..( C130 I guess) I said " mota ? no,, CoCa.. he replied!!
yikes,,now, who is gonna inspect that plane ?? 
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Sadly if you take away the drug craving from the USA it will not stop Smuggling into the USA. It will not stop the kidnapping in Mexico. It will not
stop the cartel fighting for control in LA Paz, Cabo. etc...
It will not stop the cartel putting the pinch on the merchants in the Mexico towns. It will not stop the corrupt cops in Mexico..
I do six months every year in Baja and have for any years. It is convenient to use the USA for all Mexico's issues.
Of course the drug craving is part. But back from the days of the railroad being built the coolies ran black tar from Mexico to San Fran to the folks
building the railroad in the 1800...nothing new here...move along
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SIR
I have spent most of a good part of life my traveling''WAY more than you could ever perceive... been in mex since 1968 as a kid..So,, your gringo BS
tells me you don't understand the issues at hand...If drugs are not a crime,, than the crime goes away,,,check out Denmark and many other places that
did the BIG law change and they are happy with the outcome.....treatment is way better than the USA of lock um up BS. (in some cases fine).BTW,,Do you
think "Fast and Furious" was what you think what you been lied to about.......Come on....HOW many folks here think for a second your gonna track guns
in mexico..Anyone that's says yes,,hasn't been here.............YOU MOVE ON !! FUNNY,,I just reread your stupid post where you say about running
drugs from mex to san fran...WAKE UP FOOL !!yes its been going on for a long,long time.....The WAR ON DRUGS IS NOTHING BUT A BAD,,BAD JOKE on the
simple little fools watching the TV in The USA..You should read what you posted and do some more MEDS !!!
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Wow ! so we will start name calling, kinda early but ok, if that makes you happy so be it. My stupid post, got to be a lib-trad we have here for sure.
Get your undies out of your ass.
Drugs , my point was they have been run long before they were a crime. I don't care if you or anyone else snorts, sticks, or swallows anything. Just
pointing out that it has gone on a long time. But seeing the time of your post I can see your meds might be a factor.
As to the rest of my post, kidnapping, other smuggling heading north, all the rest that goes on in La Paz or anywhere else not near the northern
boarder, you just past over. Love the gringo BS part. That was awesome, you don't know chite about me , where i travel, how long, with who. But
because it is 3:28AM and you are flying high you got all worked up. So as I have seen before some on this site are the keepers of all knowledge of Mx.
Any others like my self that came to Mexico back in the 1960 area, well we are just not as knowledge, well traveled, or read as the great captain
...now off you go
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If Kaptain Kanga - Wooo really doesn't like you, he'll tell everyone you're
"really not a Baja guy" and call you a dumbazz,,,,,,,,,,, with lots of commas. Too much carb-cleaner methinks. Plus, a big fish in a very small pond
does create delusions of adequacy; the World According to Carp.
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If the US would legalize drugs all the narco bad guys will get jobs at Pemex and Oxxo and we can all get back to fishing and drinking beer....and
working on 2 stroke outboards....
"Life is tough".....It's even tougher if you're stupid.....
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Hopefully La Paz will settle down. It is really a fun little city to hang out and relax.
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Wonder how I can get a 7.62x39 and 5.56 ammunition distributorship........could make lots of pesos
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one shot yesterday...another shot today.
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