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[*] posted on 10-17-2015 at 09:29 PM


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Quote: Originally posted by CortezBlue  
I would like to hear about your Dad

I want to know what drove him to explore Mexico in the 60's?

What he did for a living etc.

Also if your Mom enjoyed it or not


Your first two questions are answered in the captions under the photos...

Here in more detail:

1) Fishing... he loved to fish and heard Baja was the place. He liked surf fishing a lot and heard about Agua de Chale (Nuevo Mazatlan) having fantastic surf (beach) fishing from Andy Anderson, a friend of Howard Gulick... that's the author and map maker for the Lower California Guidebook and source of so many photos from the 50's and 60's in Baja.

Andy told my dad he would need a Jeep to get to the hot fishing spots... and that Jeep now made a 'Wagoneer' for family travel, in comfort!

2) Dentist... at the time of our first Baja trips, he had his own office in Rancho Santa Fe. Several celebrities were his patients, most notably remembered by me was Cliff Robertson, who stayed at our home once. Robert Young and Governor /General Rodriguez of Baja California many years before, are a couple others some of you might know about?

3) Yes, she loved camping in Baja, fishing, off-road race spectating, etc. I got my love of history and the old missions from her, I think? When my dad wasn't able to take us to Baja, after I was driving, I went, and my mom sometimes went on my trips.

Stay tuned for more...


So let me get this straight.

I give you opportunity to wax nostalgically about the man who influenced your entire Baja experience, and this is it?

You spew 2 to 3 times the diatribe about telling someone how to spell or pronounce a word in Spanish, but this is it about your Dad's, obvious, passion to drive into, what was then, a very primitive environment?

Wow!

[Edited on 10-18-2015 by CortezBlue]




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[*] posted on 10-17-2015 at 10:38 PM


I thought I provided all the details you were seeking?

My dad did not influence my "entire" Baja experience. My mom, as well as other Baja authors, and people in history also contributed.

This is a thread about photos of Baja's past I had just converted from slide to digital.

My objective is sharing something I have with others so that they can enjoy it too.


[Edited on 10-18-2015 by David K]




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[*] posted on 10-17-2015 at 11:13 PM
Nuevo Mazatlan (Agua de Chale) 1967



Campo Nuevo Mazatlan founder Luis Castellanos Moreno plays guitar to us to welcome us to his camp, on a busy Thanksgiving weekend. My 3rd grade school friend, Shawn Glover listens in.


Luis lets my dad "ham it up".


Luis had a favorite dog, named "Corsadio" (sp?)


Luis welcomes my sister, Annalee to Nuevo Mazatlan.


Of course, the big draw was the fantastic fishing less than 2 miles up the beach, at the lagoon, which in a couple more years would be named "Bahia Santa Maria". In 1967, it was just sand and Nuevo Mazatlan a mile and a half south. In the distance, on the right is the mountain near Punta Estrella and just left, the peak that is behind San Felipe.


Shawn shows off one of the many corbina we would catch. Not photographed, but Shawn hooked up a 'baby' totuava we estimated at 50 pounds, got it to the shore and it broke free of his very light weight tackle.


This fellow was taking a nap when we startled him.




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[*] posted on 10-18-2015 at 07:30 AM


Beautiful pictures. Nice dune buggy too!
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[*] posted on 10-18-2015 at 08:55 AM


WOW! As I mentioned before. my first trip was about 75-74 in a Wagoneer also to Gonzaga when Papa was alive. Went from the Mex 1 side at night and bumped into a Federal road block somewhere in the hills. Surprised us. One of our party was fluent in Spanish and we had no problems. Flew into Casa Diaz a year or 2 later and parked right where the picture shows the Cessna 310.
With the roads comes construction. With construction comes more people.
We can wax nostalgic all we want, but the past is past. Now we push into even more remote places.
My Father taught me to fish in the High Sierras at June Lake CA in the early 50s. A place I return to often.
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[*] posted on 10-18-2015 at 09:50 AM


Quote: Originally posted by CortezBlue  
I would like to hear about your Dad

I want to know what drove him to explore Mexico in the 60's?

What he did for a living etc.

Also if your Mom enjoyed it or not


Good questions!




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[*] posted on 10-18-2015 at 09:57 AM


Thanks, guys! Cliffy, thanks for sharing a past story. I hope I inspire more Nomads to describe the way it was for them, back then!

OK... Just to keep it fun:


My dad's Chevy 4X4 on the November 1972 'Dentist Trip', to Cabo. Where are they getting fuelled up at?




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[*] posted on 10-18-2015 at 10:03 AM


So interesting, thanks for sharing.



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[*] posted on 10-18-2015 at 10:06 AM


Quote: Originally posted by bacquito  
Quote: Originally posted by CortezBlue  
I would like to hear about your Dad

I want to know what drove him to explore Mexico in the 60's?

Fishing... he loved to fish and heard Baja was the place. He liked surf fishing a lot and heard about Agua de Chale (Nuevo Mazatlan) having fantastic surf (beach) fishing from Andy Anderson, a friend of Howard Gulick... that's the author and map maker for the Lower California Guidebook and source of so many photos from the 50's and 60's in Baja.

Andy told my dad he would need a Jeep to get to the hot fishing spots... and that Jeep now made a 'Wagoneer' for family travel, in comfort!


What he did for a living etc.

Dentist... at the time of our first Baja trips, he had his own office in Rancho Santa Fe. Several celebrities were his patients, most notably remembered by me was Cliff Robertson, who stayed at our home once. Robert Young and Governor /General Rodriguez of Baja California many years before, are a couple others some of you might know about?

Also if your Mom enjoyed it or not

Yes, she loved camping in Baja, fishing, off-road race spectating, etc. I got my love of history and the old missions from her, I think? When my dad wasn't able to take us to Baja, after I was driving, I went, and my mom sometimes went on my trips.


Good questions!


I added the answers I gave Blue, in case you missed them. The captions under the photos did provide some of these answers already before he asked. Happy to help!




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[*] posted on 10-18-2015 at 10:19 AM
Gonzaga Bay 1972


Every day in Baja began with a line in the water, for my dad!



Alfonsina's is in the distance. The beach before the private home area is one of Baja's finest camping spots for us in the 60's & 70's. Sand, sea, and surf fishing. Two trips in 1965 then passed through in '67 twice, the photo above in '72, I camped there in '74, '75, '79, '83, and '86, before the trips taken after my kids were born ('88 & '90).




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[*] posted on 10-18-2015 at 12:46 PM


Nothing wrong with remembering the good times ... just glad you were into taking pictures ... thanks brings back memories for me ... my Dad starting going in the early 50's .. and took me and my brother ... my mom had NO desire to "rough it" like that in the 50's ... one took it with ya and hoped ya took enough in spare parts, tools .. et al

Some adventure for young kids ... I know it is still with me, and those pictures are a "flash back" to some happy times

We all loved going to Baja ... back then .. not so much after the roads started getting better ... more people and all kinds of other stuff

And Easter break ... was one that we used too :):)

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Papa served fried tortuga the first night!
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[*] posted on 10-18-2015 at 02:31 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Thanks, guys! Cliffy, thanks for sharing a past story. I hope I inspire more Nomads to describe the way it was for them, back then!

OK... Just to keep it fun:


My dad's Chevy 4X4 on the November 1972 'Dentist Trip', to Cabo. Where are they getting fuelled up at?



What a Burb......
Thanks David, Lionel :cool:
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[*] posted on 10-18-2015 at 03:28 PM
Airing up the tires, 1972




I think this is coming off the beach at Gonzaga Bay?
In those years, we had a device that screwed into where a spark plug goes that pumped air into the tires. The compression drove a small valve in the device that would draw in clean air and push it into the tires. They worked great, was fast, but dealing with removing a hot plug and hot device at the end of the process was a chore. In 1979, I got my first electric air pump that worked off the cigarette lighter. Had a 4WD Subaru then and 13" tires didn't take too long to fill with the slower electric pump.




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[*] posted on 10-18-2015 at 03:37 PM
Nov., 1972




Sure enough, cleaning dishes before packing up to leave Gonzaga Bay, the three dentists have many more miles to go.

I remember my dad telling me they were in the middle of the Baja 1000 (Mexican 1000) going on and they saw Parnelli Jones (who won that year, overall) in the Big Oly Bronco at one point.

Another surprise was all the new highway completed to a point between Santa Rosalia and San Ignacio, coming north from La Paz. Just a few years earlier (on our family trip of 1966), pavement began just 100 miles north of La Paz.





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The road to San Borja, 1972



Coming into San Ignacio was such a change from the hundreds of miles of desert leading to it! No pavement here, yet!




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Will say, that when ya hit that pavement ... it sure felt good :biggrin::biggrin:
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[*] posted on 10-18-2015 at 07:08 PM



Driving into San Ignacio, 1972.


Driving south from Puertecitos, 1972


Mornings like this, a couple lines in the water, makes the drive to Gonzaga Bay in '72, not so bad!





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[*] posted on 10-19-2015 at 08:24 AM


David posted the Rod Hall picture what about the map.

Anybody have the map for "July 1974 Score Baja Internacional" ?
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[*] posted on 10-19-2015 at 09:05 AM


The '74 program only has the racers, no maps like the programs after. This was a quickly produced race, but a lot of details went into the planning. Mickey Thompson had made several visual checkpoints in addition to the full stop checkpoints. Another unique feature was the mandatory 1-hour downtime at Mike's Sky Rancho.

The course went from Ensenada to Ojos to El Rayo to Santa Catarina to Valle de Trinidad to near San Vicente to Camalu to Mike's Sky Rancho to San Matias and back to Ensenada, via Ojos Negros on the same route the race uses outbound, (from Santa Catarina to Ensenada). I drew it out on an AAA map.

El Rayo was Checkpoint 1 & 6
Valle de Trinidad was Checkpoint 2 &5
Camalu was Checkpoint 3
Mike's was Checkpoint 4.




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