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[*] posted on 10-18-2015 at 02:07 PM
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David we have been exploring new routes from San Quintin to El Rosario.For over 5 years.We have new route,not on any map we have.All the routes East side Highway 1.If you leave SQ going south pavement 1 you get to point where old paved road meets new.Past last bridge from SQ.Right where they meet we go Lt East.Take dirt road back about 50 miles east.Road then ends at our freinds rancho She is Daniel Arce .If you go south many roads go to El Rosario.She told us there is old road Out her rancho going south to Vicente Guerro.Anyway you could find any routes,on your maps.Because we will already be into ride over 50 miles.We will not have room for,out of gas,or daylight.As we are sure there will be many,roads that Y off to dead ends.To use up our fuel,and daylight.Thanks for any help David.We will head out OCT 30. Five bikes,big tanks,carry two spare gal gas.
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[*] posted on 10-18-2015 at 03:57 PM


Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider  
David we have been exploring new routes from San Quintin to El Rosario.For over 5 years.We have new route,not on any map we have.All the routes East side Highway 1.If you leave SQ going south pavement 1 you get to point where old paved road meets new.Past last bridge from SQ.Right where they meet we go Lt East.Take dirt road back about 50 miles east.Road then ends at our freinds rancho She is Daniel Arce .If you go south many roads go to El Rosario.She told us there is old road Out her rancho going south to Vicente Guerro.Anyway you could find any routes,on your maps.Because we will already be into ride over 50 miles.We will not have room for,out of gas,or daylight.As we are sure there will be many,roads that Y off to dead ends.To use up our fuel,and daylight.Thanks for any help David.We will head out OCT 30. Five bikes,big tanks,carry two spare gal gas.


See the maps (the 2009 with my pencilled-in additions) I posted on Baja Bucko's post today asking about Rancho el Rosarito up there... I drove the back way from El Socorro towards El Rosarito and then that drops down to Hwy. 1 via Rancho Martires to Sauzalito and near El Arenoso.

HERE: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=80583
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[*] posted on 10-18-2015 at 04:26 PM




David...do you need help? :biggrin:




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[*] posted on 10-18-2015 at 04:36 PM


Quote: Originally posted by DENNIS  


David...do you need help? :biggrin:


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[*] posted on 10-18-2015 at 06:56 PM


Quote: Originally posted by DENNIS  


David...do you need help? :biggrin:


Sure Dennis... what have you got? More than a bunch of laughing heads I hope?

My explorations into the San Pedro Martir are pretty limited. To the observatory, Mike's Sky Rancho north and south access roads, and that high road around El Rosario, that got near El Rosarito, I mentioned before...



Mile 32.6 is the closest I got to El Rosarito, maybe 8 miles away.




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[*] posted on 10-18-2015 at 07:17 PM


How about the 1000 maps, or BFG, chase books for the 0-12 or 0-13
race? may be something on there that could help?
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Quote: Originally posted by liknbaja127  
How about the 1000 maps, or BFG, chase books for the 0-12 or 0-13
race? may be something on there that could help?
That route maybe from 07 Race.The above map hard to see,dont think it goes North enough.Will look at other post you mentioned David.We have explored over 7 routes (all East) from San Quintin to El Rosario.We have one more to go,also From Danielas Rancho.There is road that goes up to forest.We went up it last year,but turned tail because it was getting late.As last resort,We will truck bikes,to her rancho.Base camp there till we find it another time.
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[*] posted on 10-18-2015 at 10:20 PM


Thank you guys,In other post buckos that looks like the road we are after last Map.Will check it out.
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[*] posted on 10-19-2015 at 09:16 AM


Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider  
Thank you guys,In other post buckos that looks like the road we are after last Map.Will check it out.




Arrow points to El Rosarito


Then TW posted this, seems Score used that high road:






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[*] posted on 10-19-2015 at 10:37 AM


The 07 B1K used the same roads in this area. Below is the 07 B1K in blue and the 13 B1K in green. Part of the bottom blue is covered up by the white line for a short east/west section.

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GE4 Notice the bottom blue and green is using the same section as the 2015 B1K

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[*] posted on 10-19-2015 at 10:40 AM


Here are some pics of that area.....for those who may never get out there....

Heading east from the bridge southeast of El Rosario....along farmfields for a bit:





And then southeast up into the hills.....















And starting northwards towards San Quintin....up and over a "pass":













Top of pass looking south:





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Cool rain-effects...













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[*] posted on 10-19-2015 at 10:42 AM


GE4 at the bottom of the blue line where it turns to the right in an arroyo. The road comes to a locked gate at a farm. While I was driving around looking for a way past it, which I didn't find, someone unlocked the lock so we could get by. There were farm hands in the field working so one of them unlocked it.

By the way Google Earth does not show the correct path for the road at the farm gate.
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[*] posted on 10-19-2015 at 03:12 PM


Ok boys here is what I dont see. GE2 When we leave San Quintine. Going South.Past bridge where Old paved road meets new paved road.Thats where we Go east,if we go another mile then east.Its old Baja course(We call it rock road) On GE2 map white color road,that crosses green marked road. (going West)Why you cant see it on map.Start of first road East where two paved roads meet? I know no way to understand me.:)
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[*] posted on 10-19-2015 at 04:57 PM


Maybe this will help. Pin 1 is where the the new Hwy and old Hwy join after the tomato farm. Pin 2 is at KM16 and that is where several Baja 1000s turn toward the mountains.

They would go from 2 to 2A to 3 to 4 to 5 to 6. 5 is where the the white line is in the above GE images. 1 goes NE to a fenced off area we came back that way once and had to keep going around until we go to 2A. There is a huge hill with switch backs. Let me know if this is what you are looking for or do I need to go further north.

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[*] posted on 10-19-2015 at 06:17 PM


TMW The pin one is the one we like.On the corner you turn Lt on (East) There are huge white tents for growing tomatoes. We are talking same place.We have not encountered any fences,locked gates.For last 5 years.If you Stray from start of pin 1 north then locked gates.When did you last do this route TMW. We went this route,Then south last week.
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[*] posted on 10-20-2015 at 08:23 AM


I think the way you went in was OK. We didn't spent a lot of time looking foir another route out. Here is a GE image I did today showing the route we did about 2 years ago. We went in at KM16 to 2A then over to 5 then 6. The blue line is the 07 B1K, it went south, great ride if you haven't been on it but a locked gate at the end. However someone opened it for us.

From 6 we followed the 07 B1K to the yellow line going north. It crossed a wide arroyo. There are 2-3 ranchos along the way. We crossed another wide arroyo before climbing the mountain where there is a shrine at the top (S). From there we went west to LG&F where we met a fence and locked gate. We went left and south criss-crossing several roads before coming out at 2A.

The Google Earth images for the area are dated 12-22-2014 so they should be pretty accurate.

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GE image showing the various routes. The numbers relate to coordinates I marked. 19 is where the 07 B1K came down and the 13 B1K went north.
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[*] posted on 10-20-2015 at 08:30 AM


This may show the route you took from 1.

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[*] posted on 10-20-2015 at 10:12 AM


Tmw this is good view (last map) Do you have one like this from pin1 to Vicente Guerro.We would like to see how many roads,that T or Y in to route,when it turns North to Vicente.Also how many miles you think,When back all the way east,then starts turn to(north) Vicente.When you went on this route,From pin one.We get 50 miles east.At foot hills of forest.This is where Danila Ace rancho is located.Few houses,plenty of water,few trucks,tractor.When you leave her rancho,The side road to Vicente,Rt turn (North ) out there gate.Should be able to see this rancho on Google Earth.Its in box canyon,Then small road 20ft East of rancho.Its hard 4x4 road,up in forest.We need do 4X4 camp trip up there.She will give us Permiso.When have been half way up road on bikes. They have two more ranchos on this road up in forest.Thanks for help TMW. Anytime your ready to wheel up there Im ready.
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[*] posted on 10-20-2015 at 10:24 AM


Quote: Originally posted by motoged  
Here are some pics of that area.....for those who may never get out there....

Heading east from the bridge southeast of El Rosario....along farmfields for a bit:





And then southeast up into the hills.....















And starting northwards towards San Quintin....up and over a "pass":













Top of pass looking south:





Time for a break....and some nice vistas....







Cool rain-effects...




Motoged,we did this route few years ago,after rain.Nice and green.What year did you do this ride.Did you ever see anyone back there.Last 5 years,only few times people on Rancho.Other wise nobody ever.




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[*] posted on 10-20-2015 at 10:59 AM


BTR,
We did that ride in January 2009....saw no one between EL Rosario and San Quintin....a few fresh bike tracks closer to SQ....the ride up onto the sand dunes south of SQ and beach ride to SQ was a nice finish to a great ride....

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