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grace59
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Visitor Visa Requirements
I have a friend who will be travelling to Baja with me in April. We live in Washington State and she has an Enhanced Driver's Licence which is suppose
to be good for travel into Mexico and Canada by land or sea. Can she use this identification to get a FMM when entering Mexico??
Whenever I hear that rainy, chill wind blow. I think it may be time to head for Mexico. Tengo que obedecer mi corazon!
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SFandH
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Personally I wouldn't count on it. She has time to get a passport.
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David K
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It may be valid for returning to the USA in place of a passport, but Mexico has never posted they accept that over a passport or passport card for
getting the FMM tourist card.
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23S52N
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Getting into Mexico or Canada is one thing...but how do you get back into the US without a passport? I don't even think you can used an 'enhanced' DL
to get into Canada anymore. Aren't they a thing of the past?
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bajaguy
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The enhanced DL will work to get INTO THE US but not to get into a foreign country.....you will need a PASSPORT
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If you are driving in and out of Baja California and don't plan to fly in Mexico or use the ferries there is another option. Do nothing. That's
right, don't deal with Mexico at all. The chances of you getting asked for your immigration status are slim and none. There will be a bunch of hand
wringing from others here in this forum but I speak the truth.
Every beautiful beach in the world needs a few condo towers - NOT.
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Bajahowodd
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I haven't gone through SY S/B since they announced the requirement that all visitors must obtain the FMM. So, how is it that you can just drive on
through? Whenever we stopped to obtain the FMMs we had to park where you had to be checked through before exiting to highway one.
Not to mention, in the event of a problem, you may face unneeded inconvenience.
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David K
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Quote: Originally posted by Bajahowodd  | I haven't gone through SY S/B since they announced the requirement that all visitors must obtain the FMM. So, how is it that you can just drive on
through? Whenever we stopped to obtain the FMMs we had to park where you had to be checked through before exiting to highway one.
Not to mention, in the event of a problem, you may face unneeded inconvenience. |
The amount of car traffic into Mexico there prevents each car from being stopped. The all FMM stuff is only for pedestrian traffic! You are on the
honor system to get your FMM at the border if driving.
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bajatrailrider
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| Quote: Originally posted by Bajahowodd | I haven't gone through SY S/B since they announced the requirement that all visitors must obtain the FMM. So, how is it that you can just drive on
through? Whenever we stopped to obtain the FMMs we had to park where you had to be checked through before exiting to highway one.
Not to mention, in the event of a problem, you may face unneeded inconvenience. |
I have had over 20
friends,visit me in baja last month.None got the FMM just drove past.
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SFandH
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I've been asked twice for my FMM. Once southbound at the BC/BCS state line and once at Playa Santispac by officials from Santa Rosalia cruising the
beach looking for people who think FMMs are not needed.
Also, I walked across at SY last week and showed my FMM as I walked past the official, he waved me on.
[Edited on 1-30-2016 by SFandH]
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David K
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| Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider | | Quote: Originally posted by Bajahowodd | I haven't gone through SY S/B since they announced the requirement that all visitors must obtain the FMM. So, how is it that you can just drive on
through? Whenever we stopped to obtain the FMMs we had to park where you had to be checked through before exiting to highway one.
Not to mention, in the event of a problem, you may face unneeded inconvenience. |
I have had over 20
friends,visit me in baja last month.None got the FMM just drove past. |
There NOTHING signed informing southbound driving tourists of this requirement. Not everyone reads Baja Nomad or calls the consulate before heading to
Mexico on the whim.
So, you can hardly fault folks... it isn't always an intentional violation of immigration. IF Mexico really wanted every tourist to have an FMM and
get money for the over 7 day vacationers, wouldn't they make a bigger deal of it or set up a checkpoint south of Ensenada, like they did before the
1990s?
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bajatrailrider
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Yes David,but as we know Mexico.Would you say hit and miss.Or set up check points.Then don't for 20 years.
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David K
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Not advocating anyone violate their immigration law... but a law must apply to everyone equally, or to no one.
If it is merely a way to line the government pockets, then they don't care to make it apply to everyone... too much trouble and no room at the border
for a hundred people an hour to get FMMs.
When we go on extended trips, we have the FMM... I posted photos and details about getting them at Tijuana, Tecate and Mexicali west.
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applies to all
| Quote: Originally posted by David K | Not advocating anyone violate their immigration law... but a law must apply to everyone equally, or to no one.
If it is merely a way to line the government pockets, then they don't care to make it apply to everyone... too much trouble and no room at the border
for a hundred people an hour to get FMMs.
When we go on extended trips, we have the FMM... I posted photos and details about getting them at Tijuana, Tecate and Mexicali west.
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This logic escapes me, since not everyone who speeds get a ticket you are saying no one should ever get a ticket? Eventually they will get their act
together and require for all. Now you can buy online but still need to stop at border.
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I got my first FMM (Nov. 2015) since I started traveling to Mexico in the early 80's. We went to Gonzaga for a week. The only reason I got it was I
read that the car insurance MIGHT be invalid without being in the country legally. I didn't want to be caught on a technically if I did get into an
accident.
FYI. I got the FMM at Mexicali West. The official said I MUST return it when I return. I just ignored him. I guess he didnt get the new memo
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CortezBlue
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Hello Grace
Why don't you call Lolita down at the round about, who does immigration work and ask her. I don't have her number handy, but if I find it I will U2U
it to you
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I've never heard of anyone being asked to show their FMM in Baja California (the northern state). Has anyone? However, as I said above, I have been
asked to produce one by immigration officials at the BC/BCS state line and at a beach on Bahia Concepcion.
A logical thing for the Mex Government to do is to enforce the requirement to have one at the BC/BCS state line and if travellers don't have one,
issue them there. The immigration facility already exists, compared to the border crossings the traffic isn't all that heavy, and it makes more sense
than the current situation.
BTW, at the San Ysidro crossing, they enforce the requirement to have a FMM for bus riders crossing the border in addition to pedestrians. Just add
one more procedure to enforce the law for drivers at the state line.
Maybe they will figure it out someday.
[Edited on 1-30-2016 by SFandH]
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Stopped by the Federal Police at a checkpoint at the Hwy 3/Hwy 5 junction north of San Felipe....asked for FMM and drivers license. Also asked at the
GN checkpoint.
I don't know why this is an issue. We all know that Mexico requires an FMM. Stop and get one
If you use the excuse there are no signs posted (in the US) advising the requirements to enter a foreign country (Mexico), you shouldn't be going in
the first place.....ignorance is NOT bliss
I personally would like to see checkpoints and people fined/deported who do not comply with the FMM requirement.
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bajatrailrider
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| Quote: Originally posted by akshadow | | Quote: Originally posted by David K | Not advocating anyone violate their immigration law... but a law must apply to everyone equally, or to no one.
If it is merely a way to line the government pockets, then they don't care to make it apply to everyone... too much trouble and no room at the border
for a hundred people an hour to get FMMs.
When we go on extended trips, we have the FMM... I posted photos and details about getting them at Tijuana, Tecate and Mexicali west.
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This logic escapes me, since not everyone who speeds get a ticket you are saying no one should ever get a ticket? Eventually they will get their act
together and require for all. Now you can buy online but still need to stop at border.
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None of us are saying not to get FMM.Just saying we know many people that don't.Yes I agree with you,you
should get one.
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sancho
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Incorrect, the tourist/visitor to a foreign country is responsible to
know the entry requirements/regs of the country. Following your
signage logic, Mex should list the need for mandatory car ins, fishing license, traffic regs on a sign before entering the country?
There is a negative monetary
ramification if one doesn't observe some regs, there is none if they don't comply with the fmm requirement, be responsible,
staying within Mex Imm regs or not
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