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white whale
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the FMM paper shuffle
still planning maiden voyage and need to clarify.
So at the land crossing (still TBD) officer will ask destination and length of stay, if your plan is beyond the permit free zone near the border, no
matter
if you plan on 4 days or 8 days you must go to an office to get this FMM.
< 7days no cost > 7 days you pay $25+/- for each visitor.
Can you get this form in advance and fill out? I can imagine a long line at some times. We are 2 so both have to go in person passport in hand?
So now you get proof of entry date stamp , outside of a police stop where would you show this? And on the return to the border do you turn it in
somewhere - US border agent won't care about these ? - or for a one time trip just keep for a souvenir?
From other posts I gather the FMM is a better run cash generator from air passengers vs road travelers. Can't imagine MEX bureaucracy being better
than US or CAN.
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willardguy
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name, birthdate and passport number, thats it. often the agent will fill it out for you, often the agent will also take your money, get stamped and
out the door. I've never seen more than a couple people in line but of couse ymmv
and no, you don't bother turning it in when leaving.
[Edited on 2-1-2016 by willardguy]
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BajaUtah
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You can get one online from Bajabound.com along with other spots but you still have to stop at the border and get it stamped. For me it's just as easy
to get the FMM at the border. Really not a big deal.
There are odd occasions where INM asks for FMMs at San Felipe, Maneadero and Guerrero Negro but there are as many times you don't get asked. Here's
the big one - without an FMM your short term Mex car insurance is invalid and you really don't want to screw around with that.
It's the law - get the proper paperwork. We (female perro) about people from south of the border skirting the laws up north why should we feel so
comfortable doing the same heading south.
Andy
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bajaguy
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....if your plan is beyond the permit free zone near the border
........There is no so called "Free Zone"
if you plan on 4 days or 8 days you must go to an office to get this FMM.
............correct
< 7days no cost > 7 days you pay $25+/- for each visitor.
..........yes
Can you get this form in advance and fill out?
.........yes, but you will pay extra from 'travel clubs" but still must stop at INM at the border and get it stamped
I can imagine a long line at some times. We are 2 so both have to go in person passport in hand?
..........never waited more than 10 minutes, yes each person must show passport
So now you get proof of entry date stamp , outside of a police stop where would you show this?
........whenever you are asked by ANY government official, if you get in a car wreck, if you are the victim of a crime, if you need medical
assistance......and maybe to validate your Mexican liability auto insurance
And on the return to the border do you turn it in somewhere
..........you are supposed to, but the majority of visitors don't
US border agent won't care about these ?
.........nope
or for a one time trip just keep for a souvenir?
...........yup
From other posts I gather the FMM is a better run cash generator from air passengers vs road travelers. Can't imagine MEX bureaucracy being better
than US or CAN.
............doesn't make any difference, it's the law. get one, be safe and be happy
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Norbert
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Easy:
Discover Baja, auto insurance, fishing licence, FMM, ect
Pick every thing up at their office,
only needs to be stamped at the Border, about 20 seconds, and keep driving. Or try to save a couple of bucks and spend forever in line-ups.
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mtgoat666
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Quote: Originally posted by Norbert  | Easy:
Discover Baja, auto insurance, fishing licence, FMM, ect
Pick every thing up at their office,
only needs to be stamped at the Border, about 20 seconds, and keep driving. Or try to save a couple of bucks and spend forever in line-ups.
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Just get the fmm and pay online by cc, at mx govt site. Then you only need print out and get it stamped at border.
If you have already paid, you go to front of line when you arrive at border and there is a line of tour bus pax waiting for visas,...
https://www.inm.gob.mx/fmme/publico/solicitud.html
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sancho
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Bajabound Geoff reported as of last Sept one doesn't have to turn in fmm upon leaving, good. These entry ports into Mex
seem to have separate Mex Imm jurisdictions. On a fb San
Felipe site within the last few days, one No. Campo resident
reported Mex Imm visiting looking for papers. The question
was posed about returning fmm's, surprise. Mex Imm, at least
the Mexicali division, said yes you do have to turn an fmm, so
someone did not get the memo or more likely, the different
Imm offices act independently
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BajaBlanca
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the cost is $28 per person
and it really is a very fast process - 10 minutes max.
you may never be asked to show the FMM but it is the law that you must have one
have a wonderful trip!
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unbob
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I paid $322mxn in Oct '15. That equals $17.72usd as of this posting. At time of
purchase it was $20.32usd.
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akshadow
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FMM cost
| Quote: Originally posted by unbob | | I paid $322mxn in Oct '15. That equals $17.72usd as of this posting. At time of
purchase it was $20.32usd. |
Notice at Mexicali East bank said effective January 1, 2016 cost for FMM is $390mxn. January 30, 2016 that is what I paid.
Was asked if paying in peso, dollar or credit, since I used peso don't know what happens if you use other method.
Ron San Felipe Oct, Nov. Feb. Mar. April. remainder in Juneau Ak
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Bugman
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I went down in November and got my FMM then. I never turned it in (as usual) when I came back. Turned out I had to go back for a one day conference
in TJ last week. When I showed my FMM and passport from my November trip upon reentry to Mexico at the TJ pedestrian entry they just waived me
through. 
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PaulW
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Just got a briefing on FMMs from the IMM person in charge in San Felipe and sure enough she said keep your FMM with your passport and do not turn it
in when you leave. The FMM is good until it expires.
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akshadow
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FMM urn in and multiple entries
| Quote: Originally posted by PaulW | | Just got a briefing on FMMs from the IMM person in charge in San Felipe and sure enough she said keep your FMM with your passport and do not turn it
in when you leave. The FMM is good until it expires. |
This sounds really good, but in conflict with agent at Mexicali East crossing.
Ron San Felipe Oct, Nov. Feb. Mar. April. remainder in Juneau Ak
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23S52N
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I spoke to the agent at Mexicali east when I crossed in early November relaying what I had read here on BN. He looked quite surprised and replied
that not turning in the FMM on exiting from the country was news to him and as far as he knew, it was still required.
Although several posters have quoted certain immigration officials at luncheon speeches and whatnot, stating it is not necessary to turn in the FMM
upon exit, I have not found anything on the INM site to confirm that. In my experience, following unofficial advice can find you in hot water. Can
anyone show on the INM site where we are no longer required to surrender the FMM? When I see it with my own eyes, then I'll believe it.
Regards
Keith
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sancho
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| Quote: Originally posted by 23S52N | | Can anyone show on the INM site where we are no longer required to surrender the FMM? When I see it with my own eyes, then I'll believe it.
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No I can't, and you probably will not find an Official Mex Imm statement, this tourist card cluster has been going on since the
beginning, 60 yrs? Peds at TJ have one application, and they apply the regs different at every crossing to Algodones.
There is no one standard. http://www.bajabound.com/before/permits/
under tourist card changes, one R. Figueroa, federal
delagate of the Mex Imm dept., claimed as of last Sept., returning fmm not necessary, the attempt at carification has solved nothing. I'm with you,
explaining to Mex Imm that they are wrong, that you
read it on BN doesn't make me feel comfortable
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23S52N
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Lol, Sancho, I agree. If I could have a nickel for the number of times in 20 years of law enforcement people said 'but sir, I read it in......'. And
that is why I ask. What a guy tells a bunch of travel agents at a luncheon, and what is written in a lawful statute usually just ain't the same. And
the statute wins... Everytime.
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Keith
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David K
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Just do NOT keep an expired FMM... and show it to INM. Many have posted they get an earful, at least before the new rule of keeping it when you leave
Mexico by land. Throw it away and get your new one on your next trip.
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danaeb
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| Quote: Originally posted by 23S52N | Can anyone show on the INM site where we are no longer required to surrender the FMM? When I see it with my own eyes, then I'll believe it.
Regards
Keith |
From the back side of my FMM (issued Oct 23, 2015):
IMPORTANTE
Durante su estancia en Mexico, debe conservar esta forma migratoria y entregarla a su salida del pais.
IMPORTANT
During your stay in Mexico, you must retain this immigration form and surrender it upon leaving the country.
[Edited on 2-6-2016 by danaeb]
Experience enables you to recognize a mistake every time you repeat it.
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Bajahowodd
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This issue keeps driving me crazy. I thought that I read recently that ANYONE crossing the border, even if was a day trip to see a dentist in TJ must
have an FMM. And that those forms would be useful for multiple crossings fro 180 days.
Why is this so much of a kerfuffle?
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23S52N
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| Quote: Originally posted by Bajahowodd | This issue keeps driving me crazy. I thought that I read recently that ANYONE crossing the border, even if was a day trip to see a dentist in TJ must
have an FMM. And that those forms would be useful for multiple crossings fro 180 days.
Why is this so much of a kerfuffle? |
because no one has given an answer, just opinions and hearsay. And like the above poster has noted, it states on that back on the card also in
english, that they have to be returned upon exit.
regards,
Keith
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