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[*] posted on 5-19-2016 at 11:54 PM
So many questions, any answer?


Who built these walls?



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[*] posted on 5-19-2016 at 11:57 PM


Who would make a dam for sand?

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[*] posted on 5-19-2016 at 11:59 PM


Why is there a jar with money in it in the middle of the desert?

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[*] posted on 5-20-2016 at 12:01 AM


Why is this dolphin jumping over the other dolphin?

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[*] posted on 5-20-2016 at 12:03 AM


Why is this grave so close to the road, or... Why is the road so close to this grave?



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[*] posted on 5-20-2016 at 12:04 AM


What do these symbols mean? Art for arts sake?

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[*] posted on 5-20-2016 at 12:07 AM


Who stuck this rock on this metal stake?


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[*] posted on 5-20-2016 at 12:08 AM


Why is this rabbit so tired?

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[*] posted on 5-20-2016 at 06:21 AM


The floating rock was definitely done by ancient aliens!



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[*] posted on 5-20-2016 at 06:51 AM


Oh boy, some awesome BAJA photos with questions!

Nice photo of the "lost mission" of Santa María Magdalena of Choral Pepper's 1966 Desert Magazine article. The purpose of the walls on that hillside south of L.A. Bay is still a mystery. I asked Eric Ritter about them back in 2009 after I went to them. The date palm, dam & reservoir, and walls along the desert floor were even more convincing of 1750s Jesuit activity.

My guess on the dam is that the sand accumulated behind it (instead of reaching the ocean to help with the beaches... a problem in Alta California).

The jackrabbit just outran a coyote! :light:




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[*] posted on 5-20-2016 at 07:11 AM


I love this thread!!!!! Baja has so many intriguing questions with fascinating answers...or guesses! Perhaps the circle of rocks was a makeshift corral?
did you open the jar and read what was on the paper? Emergency beer money?

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some of those rock walls when built by natural rock were also used for corrals and to hold water when it rains and arroyos run.

the rebar is used to mark land divisions and often have bottles on them to mark them...maybe also the rock was placed on it so it doesnt rust as quickly.

the grave may be a shrine...or not...they are placed where the soul left the body...where the person died. Maybe the person that placed it there thought it was a good spot....if it was off the road, it may be hard to find later.

obviously that liebre is meditating!




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[*] posted on 5-20-2016 at 08:45 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Fatboy  
Who built these walls?


It wasn't TRUMP




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[*] posted on 5-20-2016 at 08:49 AM


Quote: Originally posted by durrelllrobert  
Quote: Originally posted by Fatboy  
Who built these walls?


It wasn't TRUMP


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[*] posted on 5-20-2016 at 08:54 AM


Quote: Originally posted by shari  
I love this thread!!!!! Baja has so many intriguing questions with fascinating answers...or guesses! Perhaps the circle of rocks was a makeshift corral?
did you open the jar and read what was on the paper? Emergency beer money?

dolphin leap frog?

some of those rock walls when built by natural rock were also used for corrals and to hold water when it rains and arroyos run.

the rebar is used to mark land divisions and often have bottles on them to mark them...maybe also the rock was placed on it so it doesnt rust as quickly.

the grave may be a shrine...or not...they are placed where the soul left the body...where the person died. Maybe the person that placed it there thought it was a good spot....if it was off the road, it may be hard to find later.

obviously that liebre is meditating!


Funny thing even though there was a pen in the jar I didn't see any notes other than bank notes.

The 'grave' seems more a grave than a shrine, but that is what I kinda hoped that it is a shrine!


The impaled rock was inside what you might call a cave, so you had to go look inside to see it.

Well it appears we can rule out Trump on one of my questions!
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[*] posted on 5-20-2016 at 09:01 AM


Along this road (the El Camino Real), northwest of Mulegé, south of the Magdalena ruins...



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[*] posted on 5-20-2016 at 09:16 AM


Looks like you did some wandering around LA Bay. The rock walls near Animas are not really a mystery, just some left over remnants of habitation in the area. The rock dam was built in the 1960's by a rancher that thought he could catch some water for his animals. If you look close you will find a steel pipe near the bottom of the rocks with a brass valve on it. Definitely post Jesuit. The jar with money looks like a geocache, probably near the Daggett grave out at Las Flores. The rock on a stick (actually a steel rod) is out near Yubai and Herman hill told me that he did that to try to process some gold ore. No way to verify that claim. No idea who is buried in the grave near the road north of the Animas turnoff. The rabbit just always looks tired, if you had his love life you'd be tired to.
Not nearly as much mystery out there if you just stop and ask the locals. Fun place to explore though.




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[*] posted on 5-20-2016 at 09:43 AM


David,

is the round corral at Las Animas as well?




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[*] posted on 5-20-2016 at 09:54 AM


Quote: Originally posted by larryC  
Looks like you did some wandering around LA Bay. The rock walls near Animas are not really a mystery, just some left over remnants of habitation in the area. The rock dam was built in the 1960's by a rancher that thought he could catch some water for his animals. If you look close you will find a steel pipe near the bottom of the rocks with a brass valve on it. Definitely post Jesuit. The jar with money looks like a geocache, probably near the Daggett grave out at Las Flores. The rock on a stick (actually a steel rod) is out near Yubai and Herman hill told me that he did that to try to process some gold ore. No way to verify that claim. No idea who is buried in the grave near the road north of the Animas turnoff. The rabbit just always looks tired, if you had his love life you'd be tired to.
Not nearly as much mystery out there if you just stop and ask the locals. Fun place to explore though.


Yep.... The dam and corrals I figured was the 1960/70's - so I was close there. Amazing the amount of work that went into it...4 dams!

The jar was at El Desengano.

Rock on the spit...hmmm gold ore? Not saying it ain't so but doesn't make sense to me....It is set in soft granite, no obvious evidence it was used in that manner (no tailings, no scarring). Could only process a very small amount if it was so. Would have been much easier to break it up with a hammer. Just my thoughts, I have only been able to pull a little under 3 ounces of gold out mother earth when I play around with it.

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[*] posted on 5-20-2016 at 09:56 AM


Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
David,

is the round corral at Las Animas as well?


Clearly not David here but no, it is not. It is back north of the main road towards BOLA.
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[*] posted on 5-20-2016 at 10:17 AM


now I remember - the round corrales are 10 miles to the south at Las Venecas

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