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[*] posted on 5-30-2016 at 07:44 AM
K&N Filters


I have been running K&N filters on all my rigs, 2&4 wheel since rocks...I have wondered about their efficiency but persevered with them...Couple weeks ago I took a meander of 800 miles or so, down through New Mexico and Texas and felt as if Ol Smokey was down on power. (Towing a HEAVY trailer). When I got home I replaced the K&N with a Napa Gold paper filter and left on another cruise up into the Nebraska sand hills, 430 miles. On the Texas/NM trip I got 12-14 MPG and on the Sandhills trip 14-19 MPG, and no question, had more power...I draw no conclusion from this , yet, but wonder what other peoples feelings are?



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[*] posted on 5-30-2016 at 07:50 AM


Not sure about their efficiency but since they are a pain to clean and oil they probably don't get serviced ad often as a throw away paper filter.
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[*] posted on 5-30-2016 at 07:52 AM


Since I am indigent, I clean mine before every trip, using K&N products...



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[*] posted on 5-30-2016 at 07:57 AM


Quote: Originally posted by chuckie  
I have been running K&N filters on all my rigs, 2&4 wheel since rocks...I have wondered about their efficiency but persevered with them...Couple weeks ago I took a meander of 800 miles or so, down through New Mexico and Texas and felt as if Ol Smokey was down on power. (Towing a HEAVY trailer). When I got home I replaced the K&N with a Napa Gold paper filter and left on another cruise up into the Nebraska sand hills, 430 miles. On the Texas/NM trip I got 12-14 MPG and on the Sandhills trip 14-19 MPG, and no question, had more power...I draw no conclusion from this , yet, but wonder what other peoples feelings are?

What is that rig? Looks like a cab over camper mounted on a horse traler.

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[*] posted on 5-30-2016 at 08:11 AM


K&N are famous for fouling the Mass Airflow Sensor with that oil. You might want to look up how to clean your MAF sensor once in awhile. You could do yourself a favor and get a dry lifetime filter like this and never look back: http://www.amazon.com/aFe-Power-31-10004-Air-Filter/dp/B001A...



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[*] posted on 5-30-2016 at 08:21 AM


Uh, the COG looks a little far back on your "Conestoga Prairie Wagon", Chuckie.
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[*] posted on 5-30-2016 at 08:31 AM


Never ever use K&N air filter in the dirt. They pass fine dirt,never you will see one on race truck,or dirt bike. On my Dodge Diesel,K&N only goes on for street trip. Stock paper filter for off road.
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[*] posted on 5-30-2016 at 08:52 AM


feel free to buy any snake oil you prefer

http://rubicon-trail.com/public/K&N%20filter%20test.html




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[*] posted on 5-30-2016 at 09:02 AM


It is a 9.6 camper mounted on a modified horse trailer. It has an expanded metal lockable storage cage built into the space under the cabover, There is a 110V outlet, driven by an inverter in there which powers a standard size freezer. COG is OK, my son "Borrowed" the correct stinger, so when I got to Texas I replaced it with one with about 5 inches more drop...That rig has been back and forth to Baja several times as well as to Canada .....AS to K&N's in the dirt, we ran them on Class 5/16, Class 1, Class 10 and class 8 units for years...True, most of those engines were rebuilt after every season, but not IMO because of dirt being passed..Tally HO!



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[*] posted on 5-30-2016 at 10:31 AM


Chuckie,
Listen to Sams' garage on talk radio quite often... As I remember he uses Wix filters mostly... We have used Wix as much as possible on the Duramax and they seem to do a good job.. Oil and Air......
Everyone has their own poison....
We are on quite a bit of dirt road in the mtns....

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[*] posted on 5-30-2016 at 10:51 AM


Good stuff Harald....took sometime to wade through but was worth it...Thank you...Ross, I like Wix filters as well...Used them on a couple of Diesel tractors...Hope you all are doing well...



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[*] posted on 5-30-2016 at 12:05 PM


lies fit in one sentence - the truth is much more complicated




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[*] posted on 5-30-2016 at 12:15 PM


Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
lies fit in one sentence - the truth is much more complicated


well let me ask you this, do you believe snorkel's keep dust out?
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[*] posted on 5-30-2016 at 12:26 PM


I've read quite a bit that paper filters are actually much more efficient and flow better than the K&N....as long as they are replaced at the proper intervals.



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[*] posted on 5-30-2016 at 12:33 PM


I don't understand why more vehicles don't offer a pre-cleaner device for dirt road use. By use of a vortex, or 180 bends, much of the dirt can be removed from the air flow before it ever gets to the filter!

That is 1950's technology, or maybe older than that, but it worked in the tanks we serviced at Fort Knox, and I have one on my 1969 Caterpillar D-6.




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Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
feel free to buy any snake oil you prefer

http://rubicon-trail.com/public/K&N%20filter%20test.html



Thanks, good read.
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[*] posted on 5-30-2016 at 01:43 PM


Based on the stuff Harald posted, and my seat of the pants testing, I threw my K&N in the trash and ordered 4 paper filters off EBAY...



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[*] posted on 5-30-2016 at 02:31 PM


Quote: Originally posted by chuckie  
Based on the stuff Harald posted, and my seat of the pants testing, I threw my K&N in the trash and ordered 4 paper filters off EBAY...

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[*] posted on 5-30-2016 at 02:40 PM


Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  
I don't understand why more vehicles don't offer a pre-cleaner device for dirt road use. By use of a vortex, or 180 bends, much of the dirt can be removed from the air flow before it ever gets to the filter!

That is 1950's technology, or maybe older than that, but it worked in the tanks we serviced at Fort Knox, and I have one on my 1969 Caterpillar D-6.

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The cans you describe are available for custom installation. Not for a typical SUV or car because they are big. Mostly used for off road one off rigs. I see them all the time. Depending on the filter element most are happy with them.
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[*] posted on 5-30-2016 at 02:41 PM


If your rig has a MAF you should figger out how to clean it!



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