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4x4abc
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to snorkel or not to snorkel
Aussies won't leave their home without one
Overlanders carry them proud like an erect youknowwhat
seen them on commercial trucks, some military
but Baja racers (breathing more dirt than air) don't have them
what are the pros and cons?
feel free to add your religious perspective
rumors are welcome, too
Harald Pietschmann
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willardguy
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lol.....shopvac hose and some duct tape!
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El Jefe
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Awesome installation. Such fine workmanship.
Pros:
1. You will appear really macho driving a snorkeled rig around town where it lives 99% of the time.
2. It will give you enough confidence to cross that four foot deep flooded vado.
3. You can keep the motor running and the AC on when you are stuck in the San Felipe mud flats with the tide coming in.
Cons:
1. You will appear really macho driving a snorkeled rig around town where it lives 99% of the time.
2. It will give you enough confidence to cross that four foot deep flooded vado.
3. You can keep the motor running and the AC on when you are stuck in the San Felipe mud flats with the tide coming in.
RELIGIOUS PERSPECTIVE:
Heck with parting the Red Sea, with a long enough hose you can just drive across that bad boy.
[Edited on 5-31-2016 by El Jefe]
No b-tchin\' in the Baja.
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TMW
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I've never given a snorkel much thought. Probably because the only place I've ever driven where there was a deep water crossing was in what some call
turtle canyon and others call Calamajue canyon. There use to be at least one deep crossing but the last couple of times I've been there the water was
no more than a few inches deep
I went thru there in 2004 pre-running the Baja 1000 and water was over my front wheels on my 93 Toyota truck. Got me thinking what if for a moment.
Another time in the same truck we came to the water crossing on the El Compadre trail just north of the Indian village near Ojo Negros. The water was
deep and flowing very fast and when we saw a full size Ford truck standing up on the front end we turned around.
I've seen videos on YouTube where guys were driving almost under water. I don't think it's very smart to do that unless you don't really care about
your vehicle.
If I lived in an area where crossing deep water was a way of life then I'd get one. I think some of the flooding back east it would be helpful.
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AKgringo
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Even with the much simpler military vehicles that had fording kits, there is a lot more to it than adding a snorkel! With all the modern electronics
and controls, fording kits are not practical for a vehicle you want to keep.
An argument could be made for keeping the air intake a little higher to reduce dust intake, but for street rigs, I think they are more ornamental than
functional!
Edit; Forgot the religious part, "And on the eighth day, K&N created snorkels!"
[Edited on 5-31-2016 by AKgringo]
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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David K
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Toyota Tacoma owners who think they may cross water close to 18" deep ever: Perform the Rear Differential Breather Mod!
Our front diff has a true (two-way) breather located up high on a tube but the rear diff instead has a spring-loaded (one way) vent on the
differential. This does not allow air to break a potential vacuum in the hot differential when you drive into cool water.
Water can be drawn into the diff through the axles... It happened to my nearly new Tacoma in 2010 when we crossed the bog near Mission Santa Marķa,
twice! The diff oil gets a milky look when water contaminates it. I did the mod and never again have had water get into my dif.
Here is my photo-filled "how-to" (posted on Tacoma World forums): https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/my-differential-breather...
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chuckie
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Is that a "Snorkel"? I don't think so, but it does get you back into the verbal action, eh? ME ME ME! ...
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chuckie
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I have not much experience with "snorkels" but this unit has one which apparently is pretty functional. We talked about deep water crossings (they
had been cruising around Alaska and Western Canada). He said that they had forded a stream that was deep enough that the bottom of the Truck box/cabin
was covered. His concern at that point was not that the engine would quit but that they were beginning to be turned sideways as the rig tried to
float. He smilingly commented that the decision to cross that stream was a "poor choice" Under the hood, a good number of wires and breakers had been
routed high on the firewall, enclosed and smothered with gorilla snot. My German is poor and his English wasn't much better, but I am sure he said
those circuits were for fuel pumps etc. It was of course a diesel....
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bajatrailrider
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The only place a snorkel would help. If your driving off road,alone (No truck in front of you) It would keep air cleaner,a little more clean. More
dust under hood,any dust in front of your snorkel useless. On our Baja bugs with air cleaner on carb,its plunged up in less then one hour. After
relocating 1 foot above carb,out of dust from rear wheels. We are able to go for weeks.
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4x4abc
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Quote: Originally posted by chuckie  | | Is that a "Snorkel"? I don't think so, but it does get you back into the verbal action, eh? ME ME ME! ... |
I simply rephrased a question from another member
and chuckie, next time you are in La Paz, let me buy you a beer (or two). We don't need more enemies (unless you an arms trader) - we need more peace.
Harald Pietschmann
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TMW
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Nomad The Squarecircle (Roy) has a snorkel on his Land Rover. I don't know if he had it installed or it came with the vehicle.
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David K
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| Quote: Originally posted by TMW | Nomad The Squarecircle (Roy) has a snorkel on his Land Rover. I don't know if he had it installed or it came with the vehicle.
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Here is Roy and Blanche driving down then up the Widowmaker in May 2007 when the Land Rover was still fairly new:
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willardguy
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IMO aesthetically these things just reek of grocery getter (hummer3 on 22's) sounds like unless you'll be crossing some deep water, leave the snorkel
home with the K&N!
[Edited on 5-31-2016 by willardguy]
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StuckSucks
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Let's apply a little logic. Do you live in Baja or the Southwest US where where you don't find a lot of deep standing water? And if you're driving in
said Baja or SW US and you come across a 6' deep water flow, are you going to consider crossing that water now that you're sporting a snorkel?
I endorse a snorkel if you're driving in the Australian Outback or down a muddy road in Alabama. But in drought-land? Seems like a no-brainer.
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Barry A.
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| Quote: Originally posted by StuckSucks | Let's apply a little logic. Do you live in Baja or the Southwest US where where you don't find a lot of deep standing water? And if you're driving in
said Baja or SW US and you come across a 6' deep water flow, are you going to consider crossing that water now that you're sporting a snorkel?
I endorse a snorkel if you're driving in the Australian Outback or down a muddy road in Alabama. But in drought-land? Seems like a no-brainer.
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------besides, in our beloved SW USA and Mex. deserts, we KNOW that if you wait a few hours the "flood" will most likely dissipate and you can go on
your way. (Texas excluded, lately)
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TMW
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Here is Roy's SUV in Jan. this year with a snorkel.
Here is a better one fron Jan. 2015.
[Edited on 5-31-2016 by TMW]
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David K
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So that, and the largest tires he can fit on it are a couple of his after-market mods...
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chuckie
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Do they come in colors?
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4x4abc
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like all senior overlanders despise tall and wide tires (skinny or nothing) - they can imagine snorkels in all colors - as long as they are black.
Harald Pietschmann
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chuckie
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I am out of cigars...
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