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willardguy
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baja 500
anyone out there following the race? unfortunately im getting word of a TT roll over, spectator fatality.......
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weatherman is up
http://uk4.internet-radio.com:8074/wm.mp3
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very sad,,, but for the life of me, why do the spectators want to get so close to the race course
several yrs ago, I was invited to San Felipe to watch the 500
I followed along with the group, they put their chairs just on the edge of the course, after a few trophy trucks came screaming by
I looked at my wife and my friends and said this is insane, I am going to move further back,, few minutes later a truck lost control and went into
the crowd ran over 2 bothers, don't know the out come, they was flown to Mexicali
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Baja Geoff posted a video of their bike leaving the start line this morning, on Facebook.
Thanks for the Weatherman link willardguy.
Score Live Tracking Map: http://score-international.com/live-tracking-score-baja-500/
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Hope it is not true.
Desertcpl-- I`m with you. Better safe than injured or worse.
"When you catch a fish, you open the door of happiness."
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its as bad as it could be........
I don't think they've yet restarted the race
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Unfortunately the information is correct, an 8 year old boy and apparently his mom were strucked by a participant truck: the boy has died and the
mother has a broken limb;
http://www.el-mexicano.com.mx/informacion/noticias/1/22/poli...
http://www.afntijuana.info/informacion_general/57342_muere_m...
http://www.frontera.info/EdicionEnLinea/Notas/DeportesLocal/...
the first accident was a rolled-over participating vehicle due to someone -a nonparticipant- doing something stupid on or near the course:
http://www.frontera.info/EdicionEnLinea/Notas/DeportesLocal/...
[Edited on 6-4-2016 by carlosg]
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now because of the delay they're stopping the bikes early, the heat is taking its toll, its a complete disaster. the first hand accounts of the
fatality are over at RDC but believe me, they will ruin your day
im done....
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I have been listening and it is a complete train wreck...Too many incidents to respond to...I think they are doing pretty well all things
considered...and now a spectator vehicle on fire....
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What happened to 6X?? They're saying it's REALLY bad?
[Edited on 6-4-2016 by Ateo]
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The people in charge of the race are the promoters/organizer. How many spectators have to die before the promoters act responsibly and hire security
to keep the crowds back a safe distance? Oh, you say they run these races in Mexico because Mexico's regulatory and legal system allows promoters to
put on races on the cheap and avoid responsibility if spectators are killed?
Do it safely, or don't do it at all!
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Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  | The people in charge of the race are the promoters/organizer. How many spectators have to die before the promoters act
responsibly and hire security to keep the crowds back a safe distance? Oh, you say they run these races in Mexico because Mexico's
regulatory and legal system allows promoters to put on races on the cheap and avoid responsibility if spectators are killed?
Do it safely, or don't do it at all!
| Quote: Originally posted by carlosg |
Unfortunately the information is correct, an 8 year old boy and apparently his mom were strucked by a participant truck: the boy has died and the
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TOTALLY TRUE, goat...!!!
[Edited on 6-4-2016 by carlosg]
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WOW! A plenitude of wisdom! Love it when people state the obvious...Of course there is Goatley....
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Yes, tragic, but whatever happened to personal responsibility??? Safety is, for the most part, a personal thing. That's why most really dangerous
places within the USA are NOT fenced or controlled, even within our National Parks-----it would be an impossible job to do that. Vehicles travelling
at high speed with dust to boot are (duh) very unstable and dangerous. Protect yourself, take reasonable stances, or suffer the consequences, like
all things in life!
It's just sensible---------not callous.
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Barry you are asking a lot from people. You see it all the time at off road races. People standing on the outside of a turn. People jumping out to
slap a truck. Standing in the middle of the race course until the last minute to take that head on picture. Some people are just stupid without a
cure. Because it is near impossible to control the people along the race course Kasey Folks pulled his BITD race in Baja out. He did one race and that
was enough for him.
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TMW-------my point exactly---- I am asking for common sense, and don't think that is to much to ask. As for "responsibility"-----different people
take that requirement differently. I was just putting forth my personal 'take' on the matter having spent over 30 years in the business of Public
Safety, now retired.
On edit: I have seen the exact same thing happen on most every desert race in the USA in the CA Desert, and I was in Public Safety/LE at those races
for 13 years--------some people appear to have death-wishes, and there is NOTHING anybody else can do about that. They just figure the odds of an
accident involving them is not worth taking precautions to avoid, and they love living dangerously. I have talked to 100's of them, and that is the
prevalent theme they all seem to go by----it's a conscious decision.
That "theme" is beyond any Public Safety effort, IMO.
[Edited on 6-4-2016 by Barry A.]
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| Quote: Originally posted by Barry A. | Yes, tragic, but whatever happened to personal responsibility??? Safety is, for the most part, a personal thing. That's why most really dangerous
places within the USA are NOT fenced or controlled, even within our National Parks-----it would be an impossible job to do that. Vehicles travelling
at high speed with dust to boot are (duh) very unstable and dangerous. Protect yourself, take reasonable stances, or suffer the consequences, like
all things in life!
It's just sensible---------not callous. |
Big difference between an organized spectator sport where promoter tries to attract 10s of thousands of spectators to public lands, and individual
recreational use of public lands.
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | Quote: Originally posted by Barry A. | Yes, tragic, but whatever happened to personal responsibility??? Safety is, for the most part, a personal thing. That's why most really dangerous
places within the USA are NOT fenced or controlled, even within our National Parks-----it would be an impossible job to do that. Vehicles travelling
at high speed with dust to boot are (duh) very unstable and dangerous. Protect yourself, take reasonable stances, or suffer the consequences, like
all things in life!
It's just sensible---------not callous. |
Big difference between an organized spectator sport where promoter tries to attract 10s of thousands of spectators to public lands, and individual
recreational use of public lands. |
Sorry Goat, I simply don't agree. People do have their own free will (thank Gawd) to do what they think is best. (See my response above)
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Score TV live at the finish line: http://score-international.com/newapp/update/SCORE%20TV/
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The vid shows the driver going off the course quite slowly, then accelerating rapidly down a hill apparently in an attempt to get back on course,
unfortunately when he hit the gas down that hill there were people directly in his path. Looks like driver at fault, after going off course toward
people driver should not have accelerated.
This occurred in city, where promoters should have had better crowd control due to racing in urban area.
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