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Rancho El Manana
Does anyone know any history of this place. It was on or near Santa Maria beach in San Quintin. And the present day location of Cielito Lindo.
It was owned by Mark Armistead, a Hollywood type, in the 60s.
Possibly part of the origin of the runway there.
It was a Hollywood hideout for a while.
Any more clues?
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Rancho de la Mañana
Rancho La Mañana is listed in my 1967 Airports of Baja California and also in the 1969 edition, as Rancho de la Mañana.
In the 1973 edition, the same airport and location name has changed to Cielito Lindo.
There is no mention of it in the Auto Club, Cliff Cross, or Gulick guidebooks.
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Ahh. As I suspected. I know a little more history. I think I know who built the original runway. And why.
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On the San Miguel ruins thread, I responded to your sidebar question... may be more related to this thread?:
A side note. The heir's family of which I mentioned sold the Los Pinos people their land. I think his grandfather did. The grandfather owed
the entire valley at 1 time.
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Does the name Rafael Orendien or the family name (also spelled) Orendein sound familiar?
In The 1969 Airports of Baja, Arnold Senterfitt writes that family was granted all of the San Quintin Valley, and the area near Cielito Lindo and the
El Presidente (now Misión Santa María) Hotel was the last slice of land owned by the Orendein Family and Rafael has a hotel under construction on it
(1969). This was on the airport runway named Playa de Oro, just south of the Cielito Lindo/ Rancho de la Mañana runway.
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Yes Rafael. I didn't want to drop names but yes. I believe his father built the Rancho El Manana runway.
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i think it was built by ol' four finger al gaston.....you know, in case he needed to get out quick 
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They still own a chuck over in that area. It has an classic "hacienda"style compound right directly on Santa Maria beach. I've been there. It's a bit
of "faded glory" but no doubt had big plans at one time. Sadly, Rafael's father died rather young I think and whatever it was meant to be died with
him. All still there but basically empty and unused. It is possible that his father was Rafael also but I'm not sure.
Anybody know anything else?
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Different runway I think. Are you refering to the runway behind Old Mill? Wasn't that built by the Flying Sportsman Lodge back in their day?
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Flying Sportsman Lodge was in Loreto.
The Santa María Sky Ranch is what you may be thinking of?
It was between the El Presidente and where the original Highway One made the first curve in about 40 miles or so!
Perry Mason creator, Erle Stanley Gardner at the Santa Maria Sky Ranch (just south of San Quintin) waiting out bad weather.
Note the clam shells on the roof.
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Wow. How cool. More stuff to learn about.
I guess I got confused about the Flying Sportsman. I thought I read about a fly in lodge being located at the site of what is now the old mill and
that maybe Lorenzo's runway was part of that.
But I might have made that up.
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Link showing old Santa Maria Sky Ranch. Looks like part of the old runway still exists.
http://earth-3d.com/?eid=3984066_MX_SAIRF_02&title=Santa...
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Later/ tomorrow I will post the sky ranch runway and location then and now so we can see where it once was. Dave and Juanita of Cielito Lindo took
photos of the sky ranch as Los Pinos bulldozers were demolishing the historic inn.
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Juanita is mentioned briefly as having bought Rancho El Manana from Mark Armistead.
She may have a wealth of information regarding the area prior to her arrival.
And maybe not. Never meet her so don't know.
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Are David and Juanita still alive? I guess they wouldnt be that old, really.
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Yeah. She bought the place in the 70s. So she was 40ish? So 90ish...
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It all starts to make sense to me now.
I figured out who Mark Armistead was. And now with the info about Santa Maria Sky Ranch.
No doubt that is why Rafael the dad built the hacienda. I think it has 10 or so rooms on the grounds. I know that it was intended to be a fly in
hunting/fishing very private hotel like setting. But it never opened.
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Dave & Juanita are "Porky Pig" here on Nomad.
Here is the Santa María Sky Ranch page from the 1969 Airports of Baja California followed by Satellite image (2009) with red arrows added to show
runways and blue arrow to show approx. resort location (now plastic covered tomato fields):
Posted by Porky Pig on 10-25-2004:
Today at the Sky Ranch
Today's photo shows Juanita next to the only remaining structure, the old generator building. The old well still exists and is located about 50ft
behind the building. Hotel La Pinta is seen to the left rear. Juanita is pointing to the visible foundations of the old cabins where the photo of ESG
was taken. Last month we could have sent a photo of the same cabin, but alas, you can see the fresh dozer treadmarks. Tomato fields now cover the
area. A new desal plant is being built about 100ft away. As a point of interest, Laura from Wet Buzzard lives at the end of the old 06/24 runway.
Dave & Juanita from Cielito
(the photos are not there, lost when Doug changed servers or ?)
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Wow awesome.
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Baja history is awesome! Even recent history.
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Flying Sportsman Lodge. Knew it well, as well as Ed Tabor. Daughter Nancy too. Man o man...muchos years back before pavement.
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