Pages:
1
2 |
fishbuck
Banned
Posts: 5318
Registered: 8-31-2006
Member Is Offline
|
|
Smart as a rock?
What is a cheaper building material?
Cemet block or local rock?
My little neighborhood has both.
1 guy even made his own adobe bricks. It was cool!
"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for." J. A. Shedd.
A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. – Albert Einstein
"Life's a Beach... and then you Fly!" Fishbuck
|
|
fishbuck
Banned
Posts: 5318
Registered: 8-31-2006
Member Is Offline
|
|
So my thought process is that after I retire and am going through my CC&R permited trailer on the beach phase (24 months) that I will use my truck
and maybe my bobcat and trailer to wander around and pick up rocks for building.
Side note: Does anyone want to offer a guess on how much it will cost to build a 1000 square foot casita.
Me and a local laborer the workers.
That is after I teach myself how to build a house.
"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for." J. A. Shedd.
A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. – Albert Einstein
"Life's a Beach... and then you Fly!" Fishbuck
|
|
bajaguy
Elite Nomad
Posts: 9247
Registered: 9-16-2003
Location: Carson City, NV/Ensenada - Baja Country Club
Member Is Offline
Mood: must be 5 O'clock somewhere in Baja
|
|
Get yourself a few 40' and 20' shipping containers, a metal cutting wheel and a torch......instant house
|
|
StuckSucks
Super Nomad
Posts: 2325
Registered: 10-17-2013
Member Is Offline
|
|
Quote: Originally posted by bajaguy | Get yourself a few 40' and 20' shipping containers, a metal cutting wheel and a torch......instant house |
|
|
fishbuck
Banned
Posts: 5318
Registered: 8-31-2006
Member Is Offline
|
|
I have studied the idea.
I don't think I can make them match the CCRs.
But I may purchase one and load it with all the stuff I need that I can buy in TJ or Ensenada and ship it to my lot.
So first 2 years trailer on the beach and shipping container garage for my bobcat and other equipment. And then I'll hide it somewhere.
"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for." J. A. Shedd.
A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. – Albert Einstein
"Life's a Beach... and then you Fly!" Fishbuck
|
|
bajaguy
Elite Nomad
Posts: 9247
Registered: 9-16-2003
Location: Carson City, NV/Ensenada - Baja Country Club
Member Is Offline
Mood: must be 5 O'clock somewhere in Baja
|
|
Install windows and doors, put on some siding and a gable roof, will look like a stick built house
quote=1039772&tid=83448&author=fishbuck]I have studied the idea.
I don't think I can make them match the CCRs.
But I may purchase one and load it with all the stuff I need that I can buy in TJ or Ensenada and ship it to my lot.
So first 2 years trailer on the beach and shipping container garage for my bobcat and other equipment. And then I'll hide it somewhere.[/rquote]
|
|
fishbuck
Banned
Posts: 5318
Registered: 8-31-2006
Member Is Offline
|
|
I'm still considering it.
"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for." J. A. Shedd.
A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. – Albert Einstein
"Life's a Beach... and then you Fly!" Fishbuck
|
|
bajaguy
Elite Nomad
Posts: 9247
Registered: 9-16-2003
Location: Carson City, NV/Ensenada - Baja Country Club
Member Is Offline
Mood: must be 5 O'clock somewhere in Baja
|
|
The advantage is after you do the exterior, you can live in it while you do the interior
|
|
AKgringo
Elite Nomad
Posts: 6031
Registered: 9-20-2014
Location: Anchorage, AK (no mas!)
Member Is Offline
Mood: Retireded
|
|
I don't know the costs of buing in Baja, but even if the rocks are free, the labor cost has to be far higher than having blocks delivered and stacked.
Structurally, the block wall, properly reinforced, will be much more stable and easier to finish and maintain. How about block, which you could then
install a stone veneer where desired at a later phase?
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
|
|
fishbuck
Banned
Posts: 5318
Registered: 8-31-2006
Member Is Offline
|
|
Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo | I don't know the costs of buing in Baja, but even if the rocks are free, the labor cost has to be far higher than having blocks delivered and stacked.
Structurally, the block wall, properly reinforced, will be much more stable and easier to finish and maintain. How about block, which you could then
install a stone veneer where desired at a later phase? |
Kind of what I was thinking.
Standard block construction probably cheapest and best.
Lots of block companies along the highway. The last house built there was block.
Use native rock for artistic touches maybe.
[Edited on 7-6-2016 by fishbuck]
"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for." J. A. Shedd.
A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. – Albert Einstein
"Life's a Beach... and then you Fly!" Fishbuck
|
|
AKgringo
Elite Nomad
Posts: 6031
Registered: 9-20-2014
Location: Anchorage, AK (no mas!)
Member Is Offline
Mood: Retireded
|
|
Another thing to consider, is that even an 'average' mason can build a decent block structure. If I was considering a stone structure, I would only
want a 'master mason' doing the work!
[Edited on 7-6-2016 by AKgringo]
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
|
|
weebray
Super Nomad
Posts: 1094
Registered: 7-19-2010
Location: La Paz
Member Is Offline
Mood: lleno
|
|
Check out barro. Methinks it's the best Baja solution.
Every beautiful beach in the world needs a few condo towers - NOT.
|
|
bajaguy
Elite Nomad
Posts: 9247
Registered: 9-16-2003
Location: Carson City, NV/Ensenada - Baja Country Club
Member Is Offline
Mood: must be 5 O'clock somewhere in Baja
|
|
Figure out some way to insulate it.....blocks retain and radiate heat in the summer and cold in the winter. If I had it to do over again I would use
2"x6" steel framing
[/rquote]Kind of what I was thinking.
Standard block construction probably cheapest and best.
Lots of block companies along the highway. The last house built there was block.
Use native rock for artistic touches maybe.
[Edited on 7-6-2016 by fishbuck][/rquote]
|
|
BajaBlanca
Select Nomad
Posts: 13197
Registered: 10-28-2008
Location: La Bocana, BCS
Member Is Offline
|
|
you should come over and pick my husband's brain. He is NOT into bajanomad or facebook, it would have to be face to face. He also has taught
himself everything he knows. He so enjoy it that he says if he could go back in time, he would have worked with construction rather than engineering
for 26 years.
|
|
Bajahowodd
Elite Nomad
Posts: 9274
Registered: 12-15-2008
Location: Disneyland Adjacent and anywhere in Baja
Member Is Offline
|
|
So cool!
|
|
fishbuck
Banned
Posts: 5318
Registered: 8-31-2006
Member Is Offline
|
|
Yeah the top 1. What a view!
"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for." J. A. Shedd.
A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. – Albert Einstein
"Life's a Beach... and then you Fly!" Fishbuck
|
|
woody with a view
PITA Nomad
Posts: 15939
Registered: 11-8-2004
Location: Looking at the Coronado Islands
Member Is Offline
Mood: Everchangin'
|
|
Keep in mind that rebar in CMU in Baja is not used as frequently as in US. If you're lucky they will fill every 3rd cell of CMU with grout, not every
cell.
if properly constructed, a rock wall is structurally stronger than your average Baja block wall. the irregular shapes if properly grouted with enough
mortar is unbeatable. no rebar needed. and it looks good when its finiished.
|
|
bajabuddha
Banned
Posts: 4024
Registered: 4-12-2013
Location: Baja New Mexico
Member Is Offline
Mood: Always cranky unless medicated
|
|
Rocks are free, and you still must reinforce the walls with rebar. There are vast projects and half-vast projects.... I hate half-vast work.
Difference is, rock is free but block goes up faster, more level (if done right) and less gathering time. It's all 6's. Cada Loco Con Su Tema; build
what you like and want to live in, be it rock, block, metal conex, rammed earth, adobe.......... choose your poison and be it.
I did rock work for years, and love natural stone. However, it's definitely young man's work. I believe in the theory of Earth Compaction; the same
rock you picked up 30 years ago is much heavier now since gravity works; the atoms have compacted and made it much more dense and harder to handle.
Asparagus is farther away to pick as well.
I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!
86 - 45*
|
|
bezzell
Nomad
Posts: 444
Registered: 11-30-2014
Member Is Offline
|
|
Quote: Originally posted by bajaguy | Get yourself a few 40' and 20' shipping containers, a metal cutting wheel and a torch......instant house |
and potentially fry yourself in the Baja sun?
not sure about this route?
|
|
bajaguy
Elite Nomad
Posts: 9247
Registered: 9-16-2003
Location: Carson City, NV/Ensenada - Baja Country Club
Member Is Offline
Mood: must be 5 O'clock somewhere in Baja
|
|
Get some trusses and put a gable roof on. Insulate the top and sides, wraparound covered deck
|
|
Pages:
1
2 |