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JakeinVegas
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Permanent ban on gill nets. A step in the right direction.
The Mexican government just announced a permanent ban on gillnet fishing in selected areas in the Northern Sea of Cortez. This is in response to
protecting the Vaquita and Totoaba but I hope this mentality continues to spread and that more people look to the future.
I love to see responsible fisheries management like what I have read about in Bahia Asuncion. These are local fisherman who recognize that they must
conserve resources if they want the sea to take care of their families in the future.
As far as I am concerned the trawlers, seiners, gillnetters and longliners should be banned from the Sea of Cortez. There is way more money to be made
taking sportfisherman out for a day and it's a lot less work than hauling nets.
Here is the link to the article: http://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/ban-on-use-of-gillnets-made-...
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Terry28
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Laws without enforcement are only suggestions.......
Mexico!! Where two can live as cheaply as one.....but it costs twice as much.....
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BigBearRider
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Good step.
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DENNIS
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Too late. Those involved in these efforts know that too, but their paycheck keeps them in the game.
"YOU CAN'T LITTER ALUMINUM"
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KaceyJ
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Make it for the whole Sea Of Cortez , stretch it to the Revillagigedos and offshore 100 miles and they may be still able to help the marine
environment.
Do it!
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DENNIS
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Do away with the long-liners as well.
"YOU CAN'T LITTER ALUMINUM"
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BigBearRider
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Why do you say it's too late?
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mtgoat666
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I think you'll need some real statistics to back up that statement that sports fishing makes more money than commercial fishing in the SOC!
btw, i am not for or against commercial fishing, i just want truthiness! (and managed commercial fishing)
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mtgoat666
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that vacquita is past hope of saving. there are only 30 left, not enough to recover in the face of existing pressures. might as well barbecue them
so of few of us can say we knew what they tasted like!
tastes like chicken?
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Quote: Originally posted by JakeinVegas  | The Mexican government just announced a permanent ban on gillnet fishing in selected areas in the Northern Sea of Cortez. This is in response to
protecting the Vaquita and Totoaba but I hope this mentality continues to spread and that more people look to the future.
I love to see responsible fisheries management like what I have read about in Bahia Asuncion. These are local fisherman who recognize that they must
conserve resources if they want the sea to take care of their families in the future.
As far as I am concerned the trawlers, seiners, gillnetters and longliners should be banned from the Sea of Cortez. There is way more money to be made
taking sportfisherman out for a day and it's a lot less work than hauling nets.
Here is the link to the article: http://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/ban-on-use-of-gillnets-made-... |
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güero
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Si como no!!!!! ha,ha,ha
Ay! ajaaaaaaaaa........
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dtbushpilot
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 |
that vacquita is past hope of saving. there are only 30 left, not enough to recover in the face of existing pressures. might as well barbecue them
so of few of us can say we knew what they tasted like!
tastes like chicken? |
Starkist just isn't the same since they went "Dolphin Free"....
"Life is tough".....It's even tougher if you're stupid.....
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chuckie
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Thats pretty sick
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cj5orion
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so.... how do we find out where these "selected areas" might be ????
Home Remodels/Builds..Recession!
Gone BAJA BUILDIN/FISHIN !
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DENNIS
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The census numbers are inexact, but 100 is the last amount I've seen. Given that the fifty females only reproduce once ever two years, their rate of
species replenishment won't keep up with death by natural causes. They are a doomed species.
Blame it all on the horny Chinese lust for Totuava bladders to improve virility.
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[Edited on 7-22-2016 by DENNIS]
"YOU CAN'T LITTER ALUMINUM"
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Lee
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| Quote: Originally posted by DENNIS |
Blame it all on the horny Chinese lust for Totuava bladders to improve virility.
[Edited on 7-22-2016 by DENNIS] |
Yes, ignorant Chinese and Japanese, and more so, the ignorant Mexicans who allow the nets to be used.
Ban on gill nets in Mexico? Laughable.
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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chuckie
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Seems like we have heard all this "Ban" stuff many times...I cant remember anyone paying much attention to it...Sad but true....
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alacran
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laws without effective enforcement are useless, in Mexico and the USA.
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JakeinVegas
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 |
I think you'll need some real statistics to back up that statement that sports fishing makes more money than commercial fishing in the SOC!
btw, i am not for or against commercial fishing, i just want truthiness! (and managed commercial fishing) |
I should have been more specific. I am talking about local fisherman using pangas not the big corporate interests. The big fellas are making loads of
money by raping the oceans. My comment was geared more towards small family owned operations. For instance, if two or three locals go out and lay gill
nets in the evening and come back the following morning and they harvest 100 fish. They then take them to a wholesaler and sell them. How much money
do they actually make from those 100 fish? By fishing in this method they have indiscriminately harvested fish from a given area regardless of species
or sexual maturity and the opportunity to reproduce.
Now contrast this with the same guys taking out two pangas with a couple of gringos each who will limit out after less than twenty fish per boat. The
sportfisherman may even release quite a few of the fish that they catch and will often give some of the fish to the captains for their families to
eat. Sportfishing preserves the resource for another day and allows your grandchildren to have the same lifestyle if they so choose.
If they keep up the gillnetting around their local reefs and inlets it wipes out everything young and old. Each year they move farther and farther
from their home port for less and less fish. Pretty soon all you have is stories to tell your grandchildren of how things used to be.
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BigBearRider
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| Quote: Originally posted by DENNIS |
The census numbers are inexact, but 100 is the last amount I've seen. Given that the fifty females only reproduce once ever two years, their rate of
species replenishment won't keep up with death by natural causes. They are a doomed species.
Blame it all on the horny Chinese lust for Totuava bladders to improve virility.
[Edited on 7-22-2016 by DENNIS] |
I hope you are wrong. I don't agree that they are necessarily doomed. If there are 100 left, I would think there is hope if appropriate action is
taken. Whether that action will be taken is the question.
The California condor went (virtually?) extinct in the wild at some point, but was bred in captivity and released. There are now a few hundred of
them in the wild. While imperfect, it's an analogy. Undoubtedly, there are other examples. I recall reading about a subspecies of rhino in Africa
where there is only one or two left of each sex and they are being guarded from poachers. On safari in Tanzania, I recall seeing armed park rangers
guarding some rhinos for similar reasons.
There are plenty of knowledgeable people who are not giving up, and are actively trying to do something, including the Sea Shepherd people. I think
it's unfortunate to assume defeat before it's over.
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