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dudly
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Desert Maps
Hi,
Will be returning to San Felipe for the winter. Interested in exploring the desert by UTV. Any maps, books etc. perhaps with GPS points recommended.
Thanks
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David K
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Quote: Originally posted by dudly  | Hi,
Will be returning to San Felipe for the winter. Interested in exploring the desert by UTV. Any maps, books etc. perhaps with GPS points recommended.
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Oh boy, sure are but none are very recent. However, with the older maps you can still find cool roads and arroyos to explore.
Use Google Earth to "fly-over" an area of interest and see tracks you might take into the hills.
Here is a selection of maps I have made and others... San Felipe South region...
1978:
1980:
1982:
1988:
2004:
Nat Geo 2008 Map:
2003 Baja Almanac, with notes added:
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David K
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If you want to see some photos of the canyons and area near the mountains, south of San Felipe... here are some of my trip web pages:
2006: Arroyo Matomi & Canyon: http://vivabaja.com/618/page4.html
2006: Sulfur Mine, Cañada el Parral, El Berrendo Canyon: http://vivabaja.com/106/page2.html
Exotic Canyons along Valle Chico, 2004: http://www.vivabaja.com/404/
2004 Nomad Group trip to Matomi Canyon: http://www.vivabaja.com/204/
2001 Amigos Group trip to Matomi Canyon: http://www.vivabaja.com/matomi/index.html
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Nice maps, DK! I didn't know you like maps? 
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David K
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Been drawing maps since I was a little Baja traveler!
Here is the oldest Baja map I made when I was 9 or 10 (1967)... about when Agua de Chale got renamed Nuevo Mazatlan...
The Lemke (or Lenke) shack is today's El Sahuaro and the Lagoon/ fisherman's shack is today's Bahía Santa María.
When I was 14... more campos had sprung up:
[Edited on 8-24-2016 by David K]
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| Quote: Originally posted by dudly | Hi,
Will be returning to San Felipe for the winter. Interested in exploring the desert by UTV. Any maps, books etc. perhaps with GPS points recommended.
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Minimal requirement would be the Almanc
Since you have a gps search around and buy a background map for it.
Join up with one of the buggy or ATV clubs and ride along.
Going out by yourself then invest in SPOT or InReach so your contacts can find you when you screw up. Lots of threads on both systems.
Bruce Barber's book is a good entry level starter that discusses all the popular destinations around SF. I see them being sold at the swap meet
frequently. I bet you can get the book off the web.
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David K
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| Quote: Originally posted by PaulW | | Quote: Originally posted by dudly | Hi,
Will be returning to San Felipe for the winter. Interested in exploring the desert by UTV. Any maps, books etc. perhaps with GPS points recommended.
Thanks |
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Minimal requirement would be the Almanc
Since you have a gps search around and buy a background map for it.
Join up with one of the buggy or ATV clubs and ride along.
Going out by yourself then invest in SPOT or InReach so your contacts can find you when you screw up. Lots of threads on both systems.
Bruce Barber's book is a good entry level starter that discusses all the popular destinations around SF. I see them being sold at the swap meet
frequently. I bet you can get the book off the web. |
Bruce Barber's book:
Baja Almanac (2003 and 2009 editions):
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AKgringo
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I have been pricing a Baja Almanac online. Sixty dollars and up for a 2009 edition! It looks like that is the most recent issue, any one know how
current the road info was when it was published?
Edited again for content
[Edited on 8-25-2016 by BajaNomad]
[Edited on 8-25-2016 by AKgringo]
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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TMW
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When you say something off the subject line, especially not in a good way, it brings all the DK haters out in force. Then the topic goes down hill
really fast. He said she said us verses them thing.
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AKgringo
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I took Howard's comment as good natured kidding, and I'll bet DK has a sense of humor about the post as well.
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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TMW
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He said he meant it as a joke and I accept that.
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David K
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Doug usually deletes things that are not PG13 or G rated.
I accept Howard's statement. Let's have fun and be nice, always.
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I have been pricing a Baja Almanac online. Sixty dollars and up for a 2009 edition! It looks like that is the most recent issue, any one know how
current the road info was when it was published?
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The thing was never cheap even when in production.
Something like $20 or more (nothing like $60). Keep searching.
Now I see on line for just a bit more than the original price.
The 2009 version is the latest. Very few changes have been made over the early editions. The reason is the publisher makes the Almanac from the
official INEGI topo maps and they have not changed for decades.
In spite of my comments I find the Almanac to be a valuable tool and I very seldom go in the back country without it.
Maybe some day the publisher will start selling a new version with an up to date Datum so we can compare Google earth with the Almanc.
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AKgringo
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Thanks PaulW! I suppose the old trails and terrain features would be the same, and my GPS should be adequate for the main roads anyway. I will shop
around for a better price!
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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David K
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The publisher, Landon Crumpton, died. No more Almanacs, from him anyway. Vaya con Dios!
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I purchased my last Almanacs from Bajabound, and last time I was in Guerrero Negro noticed there were a couple in the gift shop at Malarrimo's.
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David K
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Baja Bound also had an inventory of them, so ask Geoff maybe?
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TMW
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DK since you like to do maps why not get the rights to the almanac and update it. You know the various areas that need changed so go for it.
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The AAA Baja map also needs to be adopted by someone. I wonder if lack of demand, cost of updating, or some sort of liability issue caused them to
discontinue it?
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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David K
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Thanks, Tom... Someone who was a friend of the family and went to Landon's funeral emailed me and knows there is interest in revised editions.
AKgringo, the Automobile Club of Southern California (who actually made the maps and guidebooks, going back forever, almost), fired their
cartographers and writing staff. I am in regular communication with the author of their final Baja guidebook. With GPS, Google Earth, etc. plus the
lack of travel to Baja compared to the last century, I guess it just didn't justify the effort any longer?
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