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[*] posted on 8-24-2016 at 08:06 AM
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Will be returning to San Felipe for the winter. Interested in exploring the desert by UTV. Any maps, books etc. perhaps with GPS points recommended. Thanks
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[*] posted on 8-24-2016 at 08:29 AM


Quote: Originally posted by dudly  
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Will be returning to San Felipe for the winter. Interested in exploring the desert by UTV. Any maps, books etc. perhaps with GPS points recommended. Thanks


Oh boy, sure are but none are very recent. However, with the older maps you can still find cool roads and arroyos to explore.

Use Google Earth to "fly-over" an area of interest and see tracks you might take into the hills.

Here is a selection of maps I have made and others... San Felipe South region...

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1980:


1982:


1988:


2004:


Nat Geo 2008 Map:


2003 Baja Almanac, with notes added:




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[*] posted on 8-24-2016 at 09:05 AM


If you want to see some photos of the canyons and area near the mountains, south of San Felipe... here are some of my trip web pages:

2006: Arroyo Matomi & Canyon: http://vivabaja.com/618/page4.html

2006: Sulfur Mine, Cañada el Parral, El Berrendo Canyon: http://vivabaja.com/106/page2.html

Exotic Canyons along Valle Chico, 2004: http://www.vivabaja.com/404/

2004 Nomad Group trip to Matomi Canyon: http://www.vivabaja.com/204/

2001 Amigos Group trip to Matomi Canyon: http://www.vivabaja.com/matomi/index.html




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[*] posted on 8-24-2016 at 09:57 AM


Nice maps, DK! I didn't know you like maps? ;)
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[*] posted on 8-24-2016 at 10:15 AM


Quote: Originally posted by BigBearRider  
Nice maps, DK! I didn't know you like maps? ;)


Been drawing maps since I was a little Baja traveler!

Here is the oldest Baja map I made when I was 9 or 10 (1967)... about when Agua de Chale got renamed Nuevo Mazatlan...



The Lemke (or Lenke) shack is today's El Sahuaro and the Lagoon/ fisherman's shack is today's Bahía Santa María.

When I was 14... more campos had sprung up:



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[*] posted on 8-24-2016 at 05:11 PM


Quote: Originally posted by dudly  
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Will be returning to San Felipe for the winter. Interested in exploring the desert by UTV. Any maps, books etc. perhaps with GPS points recommended. Thanks

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Minimal requirement would be the Almanc
Since you have a gps search around and buy a background map for it.
Join up with one of the buggy or ATV clubs and ride along.
Going out by yourself then invest in SPOT or InReach so your contacts can find you when you screw up. Lots of threads on both systems.
Bruce Barber's book is a good entry level starter that discusses all the popular destinations around SF. I see them being sold at the swap meet frequently. I bet you can get the book off the web.
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[*] posted on 8-24-2016 at 08:45 PM


Quote: Originally posted by PaulW  
Quote: Originally posted by dudly  
Hi,
Will be returning to San Felipe for the winter. Interested in exploring the desert by UTV. Any maps, books etc. perhaps with GPS points recommended. Thanks

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Minimal requirement would be the Almanc
Since you have a gps search around and buy a background map for it.
Join up with one of the buggy or ATV clubs and ride along.
Going out by yourself then invest in SPOT or InReach so your contacts can find you when you screw up. Lots of threads on both systems.
Bruce Barber's book is a good entry level starter that discusses all the popular destinations around SF. I see them being sold at the swap meet frequently. I bet you can get the book off the web.


Bruce Barber's book:



Baja Almanac (2003 and 2009 editions):





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[*] posted on 8-25-2016 at 08:34 AM


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I have been pricing a Baja Almanac online. Sixty dollars and up for a 2009 edition! It looks like that is the most recent issue, any one know how current the road info was when it was published?

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[Edited on 8-25-2016 by AKgringo]




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[*] posted on 8-25-2016 at 09:36 AM


When you say something off the subject line, especially not in a good way, it brings all the DK haters out in force. Then the topic goes down hill really fast. He said she said us verses them thing.
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[*] posted on 8-25-2016 at 09:46 AM


I took Howard's comment as good natured kidding, and I'll bet DK has a sense of humor about the post as well.



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[*] posted on 8-25-2016 at 09:51 AM


He said he meant it as a joke and I accept that.
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[*] posted on 8-25-2016 at 12:15 PM


Doug usually deletes things that are not PG13 or G rated.

I accept Howard's statement. Let's have fun and be nice, always.




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[*] posted on 8-26-2016 at 12:42 PM


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I have been pricing a Baja Almanac online. Sixty dollars and up for a 2009 edition! It looks like that is the most recent issue, any one know how current the road info was when it was published?
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The thing was never cheap even when in production.
Something like $20 or more (nothing like $60). Keep searching.
Now I see on line for just a bit more than the original price.
The 2009 version is the latest. Very few changes have been made over the early editions. The reason is the publisher makes the Almanac from the official INEGI topo maps and they have not changed for decades.
In spite of my comments I find the Almanac to be a valuable tool and I very seldom go in the back country without it.
Maybe some day the publisher will start selling a new version with an up to date Datum so we can compare Google earth with the Almanc.
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[*] posted on 8-26-2016 at 01:02 PM


Thanks PaulW! I suppose the old trails and terrain features would be the same, and my GPS should be adequate for the main roads anyway. I will shop around for a better price!



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[*] posted on 8-26-2016 at 01:14 PM


The publisher, Landon Crumpton, died. No more Almanacs, from him anyway. Vaya con Dios!



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[*] posted on 8-26-2016 at 01:27 PM


I purchased my last Almanacs from Bajabound, and last time I was in Guerrero Negro noticed there were a couple in the gift shop at Malarrimo's.
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[*] posted on 8-26-2016 at 02:29 PM


Baja Bound also had an inventory of them, so ask Geoff maybe?



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[*] posted on 8-26-2016 at 06:30 PM


DK since you like to do maps why not get the rights to the almanac and update it. You know the various areas that need changed so go for it.
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[*] posted on 8-26-2016 at 06:44 PM


The AAA Baja map also needs to be adopted by someone. I wonder if lack of demand, cost of updating, or some sort of liability issue caused them to discontinue it?



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[*] posted on 8-26-2016 at 06:52 PM


Thanks, Tom... Someone who was a friend of the family and went to Landon's funeral emailed me and knows there is interest in revised editions.

AKgringo, the Automobile Club of Southern California (who actually made the maps and guidebooks, going back forever, almost), fired their cartographers and writing staff. I am in regular communication with the author of their final Baja guidebook. With GPS, Google Earth, etc. plus the lack of travel to Baja compared to the last century, I guess it just didn't justify the effort any longer?





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