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[*] posted on 9-14-2016 at 03:17 PM
TJ/Ensenada Scenic (Toll) Road 23 Km Bypass Authorized


2 Billion Pesos allocated, work to start the first quarter (Jan-Feb-Mar) of 2017

http://www.elvigia.net/general/2016/9/14/autoriza-construir-...
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[*] posted on 9-14-2016 at 03:48 PM


Do we know where the new alignment goes? Or is this just a matter of rebuilding what we already rebuilt?



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[*] posted on 9-14-2016 at 04:41 PM


The article states the bypass (not new alignment of the current toll road) will be from BajaMar - north end (the Golf Course) to El Tigre on the free road - south end.

The bypass will probably be used as a "just in case" if there are more problems with the toll road

Quote: Originally posted by StuckSucks  
Do we know where the new alignment goes? Or is this just a matter of rebuilding what we already rebuilt?


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[*] posted on 9-15-2016 at 07:12 AM


Quote: Originally posted by bajaguy  
The bypass will probably be used as a "just in case" if there are more problems with the toll road




Probably not if, but when. I doubt this money would be allocated without the bean counters being assured, but silent, about the certainty of future disaster.




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[*] posted on 9-15-2016 at 07:28 AM


That whole area from the toll booths at San Miguel north to El Mirador is a disaster waiting to happen

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Probably not if, but when. I doubt this money would be allocated without the bean counters being assured, but silent, about the certainty of future disaster.
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[*] posted on 9-16-2016 at 06:46 PM


The article is not totally clear about the alignment of the bypass. It sounds like it will go east of Bajamar to go around El Cerro del Tigre, which is the area around the turnoff for La Ruta del Vino and where the old highway starts to go downhill to San Miguel, just south of the last toll station.

It sure seems like they expect another landslide and road closure. I drove the old highway several times after the toll road closure, and it was bumper to bumper traffic moving very slow. Lots of big semis to really jam things up.

This bypass should be separate from the old highway. There always has to be a free alternative in Mexico.
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[*] posted on 9-16-2016 at 06:56 PM


Quote: Originally posted by gsbotanico  
The article is not totally clear about the alignment of the bypass. It sounds like it will go east of Bajamar to go around El Cerro del Tigre, which is the area around the turnoff for La Ruta del Vino and where the old highway starts to go downhill to San Miguel, just south of the last toll station.

It sure seems like they expect another landslide and road closure. I drove the old highway several times after the toll road closure, and it was bumper to bumper traffic moving very slow. Lots of big semis to really jam things up.

This bypass should be separate from the old highway. There always has to be a free alternative in Mexico.


The bypass adds more miles, so will increase driving Time. You can google up maps of the route.
I think the free road stays the same. The proposed bypass goes further inland.
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[*] posted on 9-16-2016 at 07:13 PM


If you drive the toll road on a continuous basis you will notice subsidence cracks.....and they are always patching segments. The whole area from the San Miguel toll booth north to El Mirador is a subsidence zone

Quote: Originally posted by gsbotanico  

It sure seems like they expect another landslide and road closure. I drove the old highway several times after the toll road closure, and it was bumper to bumper traffic moving very slow. Lots of big semis to really jam things up..
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[*] posted on 9-16-2016 at 09:09 PM


No one wants to believe that "scenic" area is unstable, but for many years, if you looked up the hillside near the San Miguel tollbooth, you could see remnants of foundations of houses built there in the 80s.

Sounds like the SCT is finally accepting the inevitable.

Quote: Originally posted by bajaguy  
If you drive the toll road on a continuous basis you will notice subsidence cracks.....and they are always patching segments. The whole area from the San Miguel toll booth north to El Mirador is a subsidence zone

Quote: Originally posted by gsbotanico  

It sure seems like they expect another landslide and road closure. I drove the old highway several times after the toll road closure, and it was bumper to bumper traffic moving very slow. Lots of big semis to really jam things up..




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[*] posted on 9-16-2016 at 09:19 PM


Actually, the business community in Ensenada believes it and so does the new mayor Elect

Quote: Originally posted by Whale-ista  
No one wants to believe that "scenic" area is unstable
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