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Marijuana Mexico to California
I am curious - now that marijuana is legal in California, can travelers now bring marijuana across the border from Mexico into the USA at a California
border crossing? I am not discussing the stupidity of bringing marijuana into Mexico, just bringing it back into the USA.
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Federal agents are at the border and Federal agents enforce Federal laws.
Take your chances.
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Quote: Originally posted by BajaMama  | | I am curious - now that marijuana is legal in California, can travelers now bring marijuana across the border from Mexico into the USA at a California
border crossing? I am not discussing the stupidity of bringing marijuana into Mexico, just bringing it back into the USA. |
yes, you can bring pot across the border. Of course, if feds catch you, you will be charged in federal court.
The California law has nothing to do with federal law.
(Early indications are that the trumpistas and GOP will be much more anti-pot than obama admin... still boggles my mind that white unemployed and
working poor pot smokers voted for trump)
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To answer your questions (s).....no
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DaliDali
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | Quote: Originally posted by BajaMama | | I am curious - now that marijuana is legal in California, can travelers now bring marijuana across the border from Mexico into the USA at a California
border crossing? I am not discussing the stupidity of bringing marijuana into Mexico, just bringing it back into the USA. |
(Early indications are that the trumpistas and GOP will be much more anti-pot than obama admin... still boggles my mind that white unemployed and
working poor pot smokers voted for trump) |
I suppose those white unemployed and working poor placed more weight on the prospects of an improved economy over their dope useage.
The liar could only propose building millions of solar panels and taxing someone more as her main economic message..
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well that didn't take long! 
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | Quote: Originally posted by BajaMama | | I am curious - now that marijuana is legal in California, can travelers now bring marijuana across the border from Mexico into the USA at a California
border crossing? I am not discussing the stupidity of bringing marijuana into Mexico, just bringing it back into the USA. |
yes, you can bring pot across the border. Of course, if feds catch you, you will be charged in federal court.
The California law has nothing to do with federal law.
(Early indications are that the trumpistas and GOP will be much more anti-pot than obama admin... still boggles my mind that white unemployed and
working poor pot smokers voted for trump) |
Please share with us some FACTS, instead of speculation, concerning these "early indications".
Unless, of course, it's something from Salon...........that publication is like the left-wing, Bizarro World version of Breitbart and Fox News.
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Marijuana = Federal Schedule 1 same as heroin or meth.
Trump is a state's rights guy so individual state freedoms should ring the bell. Unless "Mad Dog" thinks it will impact his Secretary of War position.
But seriously, the patchwork of state laws with regards to both medical and recreational marijuana have the potential to stage a significant conflict
between the Federal and State jurisdictions. How many of those states gave Trump electoral votes, he seems to be somewhat vindictive...
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Hook
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| Quote: Originally posted by Bob and Susan | whats amazing to me is that americans think marijuana in baja comes from mexico...
ha...it's transported across by americans and Canadians and goes SOUTH not NORTH
they just don't use the tunnels : ) |
There is plenty of Mexican mota where I live. Very cheap. No reason to bring pot south, unless you just have to have pot with stratospheric THC
levels.
Any pot being brought down by any gringos is 99.9% for personal consumption. Why would anyone smuggle into a land where pot is 1/20 the price?
Really, Bob, you spend too much time in that white, ivory lighthouse of yours. You need to get out more. Your Mexico bears no resemblance to the one
many of us live in.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: Originally posted by Hook | | Quote: Originally posted by Bob and Susan | whats amazing to me is that americans think marijuana in baja comes from mexico...
ha...it's transported across by americans and Canadians and goes SOUTH not NORTH
they just don't use the tunnels : ) |
There is plenty of Mexican mota where I live. Very cheap. No reason to bring pot south, unless you just have to have pot with stratospheric THC
levels.
Any pot being brought down by any gringos is 99.9% for personal consumption. Why would anyone smuggle into a land where pot is 1/20 the price?
Really, Bob, you spend too much time in that white, ivory lighthouse of yours. You need to get out more. Your Mexico bears no resemblance to the one
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Bob,
BC and BCS are pot exporters. The peninsula is also a pot shipping corridor, part of the drug pipeline from Latin America to USA, USA is largest drug
consumer in the world.
Woke!
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I asked the same question to my buddies when we were driving home last week and the answer was about the same as it is here.
A few months ago I was having a conversation with a border patrol agent and asked if I brought more than a liter of booze back with me could I just
pay the duty and be done with it. The answer was a resounding NO! As a Californian we are only allowed 1 liter every 30 days, however, If I were a
Texan, I could bring 10 liters back every 30 days. Even crossing into Cali it would be OK because that is the Texas state law and the feds respect the
laws of the state in which you are a resident.
It seems pretty much the same thing to me and who knows how it will be interpreted in the coming months. I won't be the one testing the waters on this
one but this country need to get over the ridiculous war on pot. There is too much money to be saved and made on the legalization of it.
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It's almost a dumb question to ask on two fronts, " if it's OK to bring Mexican marijuana" over the US/Mexican border back into the US, given the
behavior of the jack booted thugs, the US Custom agents( ICE) and equally bad border patrol, federal agents.
But given the psychotic, multiple personality laws or differences between state and federal drug laws, it's not surprising the laws cause confusion
especially since so many states recently passed laws in favor of Marijuana use among it's citizens for persona use.So it's actually a good question.
In the past during the Bush administration, they really didn't care what local or state laws were passed, they were going to enforce Federal drug
laws, but during the Obama, administration, there was more of a lax attitude towards enforcing federal drug laws against pot smokers, especially in
states like California that allowed medical marijuana.
Sadly, with the election of Trump, and the pick of Jeff Sessions, as Attorney General, we are probably headed back to 50's as far as marijuana drug
laws are concerned, when it was believed marijuana was one of the worse drugs in the world.
No doubt the Trump administration, will selectively bring back "stop and frisk to urban cities for at least the darker-skinned individuals as
recent studies have shown, the police were randomly stopping mostly dark-skinned minorities in places like NYC, even if drug usage was about the
same among whites or blacks.
The only other comment I will make is, why would an American want to bring Mexican marijuana, over the border to the US side, when most marijuana
connoisseurs, know with the recent favorable laws in many states in the US, that now American made marijuana, is so much better than the illegal
stuff coming from Mexico. Now it's the American marijuana being smuggled to Mexico.
The only thing Mexican marijuana, has going for it........is it's cheap in price.
[Edited on 12-3-2016 by JoeJustJoe]
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Bob, both Graham Mackintosh and I have written about walking into active pot farms in Baja. His was east of San Quintin and mine was west of San
Felipe. The key of knowing where it had been grown is finding drip irrigation tube in canyons with water.
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| Quote: Originally posted by soulpatch | | Quote: Originally posted by Bajazly | I asked the same question to my buddies when we were driving home last week and the answer was about the same as it is here.
A few months ago I was having a conversation with a border patrol agent and asked if I brought more than a liter of booze back with me could I just
pay the duty and be done with it. The answer was a resounding NO! As a Californian we are only allowed 1 liter every 30 days, however, If I were a
Texan, I could bring 10 liters back every 30 days. Even crossing into Cali it would be OK because that is the Texas state law and the feds respect the
laws of the state in which you are a resident.
It seems pretty much the same thing to me and who knows how it will be interpreted in the coming months. I won't be the one testing the waters on this
one but this country need to get over the ridiculous war on pot. There is too much money to be saved and made on the legalization of it.
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That is interesting.
I have no legal residency in the USA so I wonder how much I can bring across for my next camping trip to the USA.
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They explained to me that you are only allowed to bring one liter into California, except for out of state
residents transiting California on a common carrier. And only if your particular state's law allows it.
"The future ain't what it used to be"
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I believe the DEA had a chance to review that classification
a few months back, they declined, one would assume because
reclassification would result in a decrease in their work load,
authority,
probably affect staffing. Those overpaid, just putting time
for retirement Govt. employees don't want anyone to
mess with their golden goose. Is a bit confusing that
Border Patrol spend $$$ to apprehend a backpack
carried across in the desert, while a few miles
away in San Diego it is sold in a strip mall medicinal
shop
[Edited on 12-3-2016 by sancho]
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Hook
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Ok, that common carrier clause explains why they wont let me take more, even as a resident of South Dakota. 
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Barry A.
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Bob----------you can believe David K on this as I have seen as least one of the same that he has seen "west of San Felipe", and as a prior
drug-enforcement agent/ranger I recognize pot-gardens when I see them, or even when near them due to lots of tell-tale signs around water sources as
well as the plastic pipes. Nobody would be planting "tomatoes" in the sites that I have seen in Baja---way too troublesome and no profit-incentive to
harvest "tomatoes" at them. I don't have any photos either. Reasonable remoteness plus semi-reliable water is a magnet for illegal pot growers,
north or south of the USA border..
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Barry A.
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| Quote: Originally posted by sancho |
I believe the DEA had a chance to review that classification
a few months back, they declined, one would assume because
reclassification would result in a decrease in their work load,
authority,
probably affect staffing. Those overpaid, just putting time
for retirement Govt. employees don't want anyone to
mess with their golden goose. Is a bit confusing that
Border Patrol spend $$$ to apprehend a backpack
carried across in the desert, while a few miles
away in San Diego it is sold in a strip mall medicinal
shop
[Edited on 12-3-2016 by sancho] |
The Federal Laws are made by Congress, not the DEA. If the laws need changing, then Congress needs to do it. In the mean time, the reality is that
Fed. LE agents will enforce the laws on the books as that is their primary job and they are sworn to do it, regardless of what the present
Administration advises or wishes. Rumors to the contrary are way over-blown.
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| Quote: Originally posted by Barry A. |
Nobody would be planting "tomatoes" in the sites that I have seen in Baja---way too troublesome and no profit-incentive to harvest "tomatoes" at them.
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Might just be me. but I believe Bob's post may have a bit of
sarcasim. maybe a bit fictious, maybe not to be taken as
literal
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David K
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Thanks Barry, you are correct... the site I found was beyond any auto road, about a mile + hike up a canyon to the "project". For giggles we Amigos de
Baja called it a "cilantro farm"
Also, I have had local ranchers tell me about the pot growing in another (nearby) canyon and that the military came in and destroyed it... You see
machete hacked up drip tube in that canyon.
The photo I took of the field being prepared for planting was posted and is in my website. There were many bags of fertilizer on the site, brought in
by burro!
Read Graham's second book, 'Journey with a Baja Burro' for the details on the pot farm he walked in upon.
This is a very common thing in the remote canyons and valleys of Baja... maybe norte more than Sur?
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