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fuschiagirl13
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FMM
We are in trouble! We are newbies to the baja and haven't registered for a tourist permit! We are now in Santa Rosalia. I am stressed out! What can
we do?
thanks
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Terry28
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Don't worry too much....others will chime in for sure with various attitudes. In all the years of travel in Baja most folks have never been asked for
it.....chill
Mexico!! Where two can live as cheaply as one.....but it costs twice as much.....
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bajaguy
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I would suggest you return to the border, or at least Ensenada and get them.
Doesn't make any difference if you are asked, it's the law.....and some people will tell you to just ignore the law
[Edited on 2-2-2017 by bajaguy]
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TMW
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If it were me I would continue with my trip and have fun and not worry about it. If you are asked for it (which is slim to none) just tell them the
truth. The only place I have been asked for my tourist visa in the last 15 years was at Guerrero Negro and the last time was 10 years ago.
My brother and I were in La Paz about 10 years ago and while he had the papers he had not paid for it. He went into a bank in La Paz to pay and they
didn't know what he was talking about.
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del mar
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the brown bottles with the yellow caps are great stress relievers! 
enjoy your trip
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sancho
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I'm all for compliance, but the thought of driving back up
for an fmm seems a little cumbersome, although it is the correct
remedy. Speaking only for myself, I would not go to that extreme. Back in the day, I was in Vallarta without an fmt,
went to the airport, got in line with some arriving tourists,
got an fmt. That was when they were free. Not sure the
current logistics would work like that. So your options are limited, as
suggested enjoy your trip, drive cautiously
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Martyman
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Don't worry about it...unless you are taking the ferry... Then you will need your FMM.
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bajabuddha
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Sta. Rosalia has an Émigré office right on the main Hwy 1 on the ocean-front side of the entrance to town, and you can go in and obtain an FMM, and
pay for it at one of the local banks. However, because you're now south of the border you will pay a very steep fine for getting it late. Not only
the $23 initial fee, but the late penalty is at least 3 or 4 times that much. Dunno what it is now, but ten years ago or so was about $80 per
person, may be more now. Your choice; t'was me, i'd drive safely, enjoy my vacation, and make sure to get one next time.
[Edited on 2-2-2017 by bajabuddha]
I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!
86 - 45*
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y2kbaja
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Ten years ago they gave you the papers at the border (GN) and had to have it paid in order to get back north. I remember going to the bank in Santa
Rosalia and another trip in La Paz to have them stamped. It sounds different now (since Oct 2015).
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BajaBlanca
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don't go to the immigration office in Santa Rosalia.
We were there years ago and they told another tourist that they were NOT allowed to give a tourist visa, told the person to pay the fine AND go back
to the border.
Are you headed further south?
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BajaBreak
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How could you have gotten them if the gas protesters had shut down the INM office when you crossed the border?
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bajabuddha
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Thanks, Blanca. I got popped there for the fine (for 2 of us) oh, about 8 years ago or so. Did the Guerrero stop usually, but it was right when
they'd changed the reg's and on a Sunday (G.'s office was closed), so just went to S.R. the following week. No hurries, no worries...... but man was
I surprised, and it was a hefty sum then.
I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!
86 - 45*
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BigBearRider
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Quote: Originally posted by fuschiagirl13  | We are in trouble! We are newbies to the baja and haven't registered for a tourist permit! We are now in Santa Rosalia. I am stressed out! What can
we do?
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How long are you staying, and are you planning on returning by land, sea or air? If it's air, you will likely have an issue. Much less so if by
land. If by the La Paz ferry, I think the situation may be similar to flying.
I've only been asked once for an FMM, and it was on the water in Ensenada a couple of years ago. But, I am far, far, from being the most experienced
here.
These days, I always get the FMM at the border. I respect the law. However, if I were in Santa Rosalia and was planning on returning by land, I
would be very reluctant to go back to the border.
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David K
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On Monday, near Guerrero Negro, INM was not active, just the guy with the 20 peso drive over spray strip.
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mtnpop
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too many horror stories out of the S.R. INM office,,, they love to wreck a gringo's day....
had enough problems with getting PR there and had to since we reside in the county it serves...
aren't you supposed to get it at the border and have it stamped at the same time????
Mexico if funny that way......
Common sense is a flower that doesn\'t grow in everyone\'s garden.....
A wise man once spoke nothing.....
Never kick a cow chip on a hot day!!
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Nashville Frank
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Hey bajaguy Terry!
I discussed this very thing tonight, with our Mexican legal rep and he said its not a problem. If some have had trouble its probably when some
underpaid official (most of them) sees an easy mark in a gringo.
If its the law, why don't they handle in an open way? Like when you come in on a bus, you get off at their office and fill out your form, then go on
your merry way. Not sure how it is on foot. But when you drive in, they look at the stuff in your vehicle and never say a word about the form and the
law. Confused? I am! If its the law they're neither communicating it nor promoting its following.
Glad to be back in Baja for two weeks!
| Quote: Originally posted by bajaguy | I would suggest you return to the border, or at least Ensenada and get them.
Doesn't make any difference if you are asked, it's the law.....and some people will tell you to just ignore the law
[Edited on 2-2-2017 by bajaguy] |
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sancho
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| Quote: Originally posted by Nashville Frank | If some have had trouble its probably when some underpaid official (most of them) sees an easy mark in a gringo.
If its the law, why don't they handle in an open way?
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Not so sure Mex Imm at the border are extorting $ from Gringos.
Maybe some smaller office within the Country. It is the responsibility of the Tourist to know the regs when
entering Mex. Very easy with all the available info. Mex Imm
is not out there waving tourists into their office. Knowledge of IMM regs,
fishing licenses, etc., are part of the preparation to visit a
foriegn Country. What's that line 'ignorance of the law is
no excuse'
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bajaguy
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Frank - if your "legal guy" said complying with the national immigration law (being in Mexico without an FMM) is not a problem, I might find a new
"legal guy".
If you are going to visit a foreign country, it's up to you to learn and comply with the laws. The Mexican government (or any government) shouldn't
have to reach out and spoon feed people. It's another one of those personal responsibility things.
| Quote: Originally posted by Nashville Frank | Hey bajaguy Terry!
I discussed this very thing tonight, with our Mexican legal rep and he said its not a problem. If some have had trouble its probably when some
underpaid official (most of them) sees an easy mark in a gringo.
If its the law, why don't they handle in an open way? Like when you come in on a bus, you get off at their office and fill out your form, then go on
your merry way. Not sure how it is on foot. But when you drive in, they look at the stuff in your vehicle and never say a word about the form and the
law. Confused? I am! If its the law they're neither communicating it nor promoting its following.
Glad to be back in Baja for two weeks! ] |
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You are in luck, Frank.
Santa Rosalia is an entry point for people on the mainland.
There is an immigration office across from the train in front of town. They are only open 5 days a week, and they are located in a two story white
building next to the water.
Don't tell them you have been traveling Baja. It is assumed you came in on the ferry and wanted to get an FMM.
If you tell them you have been traveling Baja...they will send you back to the border.
Udo
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David K
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| Quote: Originally posted by Udo | You are in luck, Frank.
Santa Rosalia is an entry point for people on the mainland.
There is an immigration office across from the train in front of town. They are only open 5 days a week, and they are located in a two story white
building next to the water.
Don't tell them you have been traveling Baja. It is assumed you came in on the ferry and wanted to get an FMM.
If you tell them you have been traveling Baja...they will send you back to the border.
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SONORA is in Mexico, too. Why would one not need to get their FMM at the border with Arizona when entering Mexico?
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