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Brown Field to TJ airport
If I fly into Brown Field can I access the "walk over bridge" from there to catch Volaris?
Anyone ever done it this way to get to Cabo?
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you'l need to drive from Brown Field to the Otay crossing- they are not connected.
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Floridian ugliness.\" (John Steinbeck, 1940, discussing the future of La Paz, BCS, Mexico)
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Quote: Originally posted by Cliffy  | If I fly into Brown Field can I access the "walk over bridge" from there to catch Volaris?
Anyone ever done it this way to get to Cabo? |
It's a couple miles. Take an Uber.
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Uber HMMM I haven't done that yet but its not a bad idea. Thanks.
I guess they just drive up and drop us off?
And if i understand correctly we can walk across and right into the airport?
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There is a pedestrian bridge into the airport. when you purchase the volaris tickets be sure to specify you are walking across from SD = the ticket
will include the necessary info to use the pedestrian bridge.
\"Probably the airplanes will bring week-enders from Los Angeles before long, and the beautiful poor bedraggled old town will bloom with a
Floridian ugliness.\" (John Steinbeck, 1940, discussing the future of La Paz, BCS, Mexico)
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| Quote: Originally posted by Cliffy | Uber HMMM I haven't done that yet but its not a bad idea. Thanks.
I guess they just drive up and drop us off?
And if i understand correctly we can walk across and right into the airport? |
Do you know there is no commercial passenger service to brown field?
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Ya I know that, I'm flying my own airplane
1964 Mooney M20C
53 years old and still going strong :-)
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Not going to fly it to Baja? It is such a trip flying over that land!
I was lucky to have flown during two trips over Baja... from Alfonsina's over Mission Santa Maria and then to Calexico in a Cessna 206 (Doug Bowles)
and from El Cajon to San Vicente then Mission San Fernando back to El Cajon in a Raven helicopter (Jim McCoy).
Have a good trip!
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Cliffs, nice plane I flew a 66 m20 e for many years. Loved that plane.
Mick
Getting there is ALL the fun!
Ok being here is fun to
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Hi Cliffy - you'll need to CBX tickets to cross the bridge. You can get them online @ crossborderexpress.com, or buy them in the CBX lobby.
To use Uber, you'll need to download the app to your phone. I use uber all the time to get back and forth from CBX to home in San Diego. From Brown
Field it should be pretty cheap (maybe around $5.00)
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Uber- new experience for us but we'll try it. Ludite here so I'm still not sure of "apps" :-)
Flying Baja? I did it back when-
I taxied up to the Diaz hotel right in town in BOLA. Parked outside my room.
Did Papa's in Gonzaga when he was alive (had dinner with him and the entire family) and they had a runway on that side of the bay.
Landed at Alfonsina's way back when .
Puertocitos, had friends that had a place there.
Used to fly a DC-9 to Cabo
Ensanada, TJ, Mexicalli, Got a great TJ story in a Lear Jet.
Ya I've flown Baja but now it's cheaper and quicker to get to Cabo this way (way cheaper).
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And way quicker. 150 knots vrs 400-500 knots.
A light single can rarely compete with a commercial airliner in any measure.
Except fun.
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10-4 that. Fuel costs, landing fees, government regulation nightmares, and cartels wanting your plane all have killed private aviation in BAJA. The
days of Arnold Senterfitt and the Baja Bush Pilots are mostly past.
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Loved the 190 that Arnold flew. Would like to have one now. Had his books back then.
It really was the good old days back then for private flying. It can be done now but the number of runways is but a shadow of what it was with the
Feds plowing them up to stop drugs. Lots of the paved ones have high fees (just look at the close in Cabo one, its private and only survives by fees).
Not knocking it , its just the way things have progressed in 40 years. No different than there used to be beaches one could stop at over night between
San Jose del Cabo and Cabo san Lucas.
Time marches on-
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And I miss the Hotel Hacienda in Cabo. Have a friend who stayed there the first night it opened. Now just big condos (by Carlos I presume)?
We do like the Mar de Cortez just a couple of blocks off the marina.
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Even though I haven't been able to live out my fantasy yet, I still think private aircraft travel in baja is viable.
My senario.
Border to San Quintin bay driving. 5 plus hours.
Border to San Quintin bay flying in a humble Piper 140. 1.5 hours. Maybe 2 including a customs stop in Ensenada.
Costwise very close.
Bola, Mulege, B. Asunsion, etc light aircraft is the way to go if you have access.
Flying always beats driving.
Flying in Baja is more difficult and more expensive that it was... isn,t eveything in baja more expensive and difficult than it was 10-20 years ago?
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Actually, my experience this year are that camping or motel-ing (and eating) in Baja is way cheaper. The peso at 20:1 maybe helps?
Nice motels are in the $30 range. Hotels are in the $60 range. Camping is in the $5 to $30 range (depending on services). Meals are in the $5 range...
if converted from dollars to pesos, anyway.
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True that. Still worth doing!
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Flying in Baja today is definitely not what it used to be. Way fewer airstrips to access. Limited access to fuel. Tons of reporting and regulations
from both sides of the border. Huge fines if you don't hit your estimated arrivals in the US within thirty minutes, and now Mexico is incorporating
some of the same US regulations to scarf up even more fees. Four or five airplanes that went to Cabo and LaPaz stayed over New Years and overstayed
their yearly multi entry permit that expired Dec 31 intending to leave Jan 1. They assumed they would be able to simply buy another permit after Jan
1. Wrong. The Mexicans confiscated their airplanes and depending on their individual negotiating skills were hit from reportedly $7,000US to $2,000
fines to retrieve their airplanes. After hiring lawyers and being delayed for weeks with the help of the Baja Bush Pilots, the last I heard all had
been released.
Because I prefer not to deal with all of this anymore, my 5 hr trip from Oregon to favorite destination in Mulege and Conception bay by air, has
turned into a three day trek in my Motorhome. The plus side is that my comfortable home and Jeep goes with me and the scenery is enjoyed from a
different perspective and all the toys and dogs get to come along.
Cliffy, if the Lear story you have is not to much trouble for you to list someday, I would love to hear it. Otherwise maybe I'll run into you sometime
in Baja.
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My last trip down a year ago we drug our 22 ft trailer. Really like having my own bed and toilet along behind but I will try the hotel/restaurant way
the next time which will be to Asuncion Bay. I want to go by Coco's and use that route this time instead of SQ and down.
The Lear story- OK here goes, hope you aren't bored.
I was on the phone patrol one afternoon at Lacy's and got a call asking to do a charter from TJ to Monterrey, MX. Good English but Spanish accent. I
carefully explained that that was not allowed by Mexican regulations as it was considered cabotage.
He responded, "Oh no Senior, ees OK it is for the government". I then said that the times he wanted (pick up TJ at 7 PM) that the Monterrey tower
would be closed. He says, No Senior, it WILL be open for us". I specified again that it couldn't be done as it was cabotage with which he again says
it was for the government.
I asked how many are we taking aboard, he says 12 persons. WHOA, says I, I say that means we need two LearJets. He says that's fine! I say it's very
expensive to do this, he says that's fine.
I ask how long do we lay over in Monterrey, he says, till the morning.
I'm still skeptical so I tell him that the only way we will do this is that it is paid for in advance prior to leaving Van Nuys CA and no refunds AND
I will decide when we get to TJ if we do it or not after talking to him.
He agrees and gives me an American Express card over the phone that runs good for the total cost.
I call the Chief Pilot and tell him what's up and he launches us and another crew to go. He says I'm going with him as I know a little Spanish! CRAP,
now it's all on me.
We launch and land at TJ and pull into Customs and as we are shutting down I see a rather large Federal Agent with a pearl handled 45 on his hip walk
out toward us with a bunch of young Fed agents all armed with AR15s. I look at the boss and say, and I quote, "I think we're going to jail!"
I climb out and the big guy comes over and introduces himself as the guy on the phone. We exchange greetings and he says everything is set for
Monterrey for us, "can we go"? I look at the boss and shrug my shoulders and say sure but they (the young guns with the AR15s) they will have to
unload their rifles, you Sir can keep your pistol as it is. He agrees and barks the order to them. Amid a clacking of actions all the weapons are
emptied and we climb in and are off to Moterrey.
It's pitch black after dark flying and we of course fly the full IFR approach to Monterrey, land and taxi in. The tower was open just for us. Awaiting
them is a dump truck into which they all climb in except Mr Big who climbs into the truck cab and off they go.
5 hours later it is just getting light as I look around the area and all I see are BIG mountains all quadrants. Good thing we did the full approach.
About that time the dump truck drives up and unloads everyone. I greet Mr Big and ask, OK may I ask what was going on?
He says they were on a drug raid. I ask, Why use our airplanes. He says, If we use ours they know we are coming! I ask, did it go well? He says, and I
quote again, "Well at least we no have to shoot anyone this time"!
SO we do the unloading drill, climb into both airplanes and takeoff for TJ. It's summer and there are T storms all over and we have to weave in and
out of the big ones, Unfortunately the plane following me losses its RADAR right in the middle of the flight. SO I work out with them headings and
distances to fly from VORs so they can navigate around the storms without RADAR. It works, they never hit one.
We land in TJ, they depart and we go to Brown Field to check in and then home the Van Nuys. End of a long day.
BTW, we saw 1 guy in the dump truck that looked American with a beard, figured he was DEA.
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