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Russ
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Frightening Sight
This horrible machine crossed in front of Punta Chivato yesterday heading towards the mouth of Bahia Concepcion. I have no idea what it was looking
for. Reports on finding bait have been really dismal there. But if this thing made a set I suspect there won't be any bait reports there for awhile.
Bahia Concepcion where life starts...given a chance!
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David K
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So sorry the sea is being raped before your eyes, Russ.
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BajaBlanca
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Such a shame. Very cloudy over here today....no sunrise seen at all.
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mtgoat666
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Machines are not horrible, people are.
I am impressed at the paint job on this boat, usually the trawlers seen in SOC are rust-streaked, in need of paint jobs.
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Meany
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Very Sad
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bajagrouper
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Probably a distant memory when sitting down for that next shrimp dinner..............
I hear the whales song
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Sweetwater
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Which country flag was it flying?
Everbody\'s preachin\' at me that we all wanna git to heaven, trouble is, nobody wants to die to git there.-BB King
Reality is what does not go away when you stop believing in it. -Philip K Dick
Nothing is worse than active ignorance. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe(1749-1832, German writer, artist and politician)
When choosing between two evils, I always like to try the one I\'ve never tried before. - Mae West
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LancairDriver
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Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 |
Machines are not horrible, people are.
I am impressed at the paint job on this boat, usually the trawlers seen in SOC are rust-streaked, in need of paint jobs. |
Expensive boat, apparently well maintained. Raping the gulf must be a profitable business as long as it lasts, which can't be much longer.
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stiladam
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Company: Astilleros Progreso SA de CV
Vessel: Portola VI
Works out of Ensenada
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Astilleros-Progreso-Sa-Cv/195...
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monoloco
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It's seiner, could be after tuna or it could be after sardines for feeding fish in pens.
"The future ain't what it used to be"
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chuckie
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Likeley sardines/mackerel..I have a video of a couple of them, taking TONS of "baitfish" from the very location Russ thinks that one was headed..Punta
Prieta just North of the Mulege harbor entrance...our "Bait Hole"....Watched for close to an hour...Was also amazed at the big Grouper they took...
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monoloco
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Quote: Originally posted by chuckie | Likeley sardines/mackerel..I have a video of a couple of them, taking TONS of "baitfish" from the very location Russ thinks that one was headed..Punta
Prieta just North of the Mulege harbor entrance...our "Bait Hole"....Watched for close to an hour...Was also amazed at the big Grouper they took...
| Taking away the food of wild fish to feed farmed fish. What could possibly go wrong?
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chuckie
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Fishery cant stand much more..soon be gone altogether...
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Russ
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Years past during the summer months when the shrimpers were fewer in numbers the sardine boats would be thick. I counted 21 one time. Most were the
old rust buckets and would be around for a couple days then return in less than a week. Last summer I counted 5 one day near the mouth but others were
a few mile outside probably fishing dorado, mackerel, and the other mackerel type I can't think of the name but was a pest fish, along with any other
pelagic fishes. The last few years though most of the sardine/tuna boats have been like shown above. A few had helicopters.
Bahia Concepcion where life starts...given a chance!
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chuckie
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We called em, sourbellies.....A couple of commercial longliners targeting Dorado as well for a while...Got fouled in one of the surface long lines,
and unfortunately had to cut it to pieces to get loose...ca ca occurs...
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Russ
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A couple of old photos
Bahia Concepcion where life starts...given a chance!
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tehag
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Anyone who actually cares about this subject might want to take 3 and half minutes to watch this video. It is disturbing.
I am a bird-watching guide in BCS and have noticed changes in some marine bird populations already. I haven't seen an Elegant Tern in 2 years, where I
used to see them every day in season. The ratio of adult to juvenile Brown Pelicans appears to be trending upward. Where I used to see around 2 to 1
adults over juveniles, today it seems closer to 7 to 1. If you want to drive a species to extinction, a good strategy is to cut off their supply of
food for themselves and/or their offspring.
http://thenaturalnumbers.org/sardines.html
[Edited on 3-19-2017 by tehag]
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http://bcsbirds.com
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chuckie
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Should be a "must watch"...few will...
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stiladam
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Great video and site. Thanks for that
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woody with a view
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Peru used to export fertilizer made from sardines back 50 years ago. They caught every last one and the resource collapsed. Can Mexico stop the
madness before its too late?
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