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wilderone
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Sm. propane canister for camping stove in SJD
So I'm flying into San Jose del Cabo with camping gear for a couple weeks adventure. Is there a reliable store to purchase a standard screw-on
propane canister for a backpacking stove in town?
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dtbushpilot
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All hardware stores have them.
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wilderone
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Thanks - Looks like many hardware stores along Hwy 1 out of town. I've got a few addresses to check out.
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Don't know about SJC but expect to pay almost DOUBLE at stores like Home Depot. Everywhere I found them both in Baja & mainland they were
expensive compared to U.S.
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Alm
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Standard screw-on canister - sounds like 1 lb green BBQ canisters, sold under Coleman brand in the US. Before I dropped my anchor in Baja, I used to
fly and it was a pain to buy those canisters.
Home Depot have it in Mexico. Sport equipment stores too, - not all. Prices are double, be it HD or sport stores. Once in Loreto I couldn't find
any, and bought tall blue cylinder used for torches - same thread. Size of a wine bottle. Big chain store El Arco Plomeria y Electrico, there should
be one in SJD too.
Don't buy tall yellow cylinders on the shelf next to blue ones - those are different mix.
[Edited on 8-21-2018 by Alm]
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1lb are sold at marine supply stores and are expensive and wasteful. You may want to bring a hose to optionally use a regular size propane tank and
either borrow or buy one, 20lbs tanks are cheap to fill and you don't have to fill it all the way. You can also pay for deposit for tanks from propane
distributors and keep receipt to try to get the money back or sell or give away. Marinas and camp grounds often have tanks sitting around, you could
negotiate.
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Mega at the end of the toll rd has them
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wilderone
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Not the Coleman 1 lb – like this:
I’ll bring the stove, but won’t totally rely on it in case I can’t find the canister. As an alternative I’m also bringing the alcohol stove,
which I can use denatured alcohol with. I also made some wax fire starters that I can use with a few sticks as a last resort:
I may bring a few fresh pinecones that I picked up at Mammoth Lakes a couple weeks ago too - they'll burn hot and fast.
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WOW, how long has MSR made butane/propane canisters like that. When I backpacked in the 80s and 90s, I only recall seeing the bottles for the famous
Whisperlite stove. A great stove for boiling water (nothing faster, really) but not very adjustable for actual cooking. I stuck with my
Bluet........which I still have, for some reason. Hasnt been used in probably 25 years.
Good luck finding those down there. I would think it would be hard. Maybe convince someone on Nomads who is heading down to bring them to you. I doubt
you can fly with them.
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wilderone
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Absolutely can't fly with them. Those small canisters fit that small stove – cheap from China – they’re very efficient - adjustable flame too.
Your Bluet? The gaz? I have 3 of those stoves – very reliable – but the canisters aren’t sold in the US anymore, but sold in Europe all over!
I only have about 3 canisters left for the Gaz.
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Alm
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They are puncture-in type, I prefer not calling them screw-on. MSR is what they are normally called, though there are other makers too.
Your stove is a backpacking stove, different from bulkier single-burner or 2-burner types called "camping stove".
Difficult to find MSR tanks in Mexico. Some sport stores might have it, even in Cabo I wouldn't bet on it.
I have an Optimus stove similar to yours. The very first thing I did when began traveling/flying with it, was cutting MSR end-fitting off and
replacing it with Coleman type fitting, to accept more common green Coleman cartridges. My stove is on tripod with a hose to cartridge, so it was
easy to replace the fitting. Home Depot in the States have $15 Coleman single burner that you can screw on top of Coleman tank, maybe HD in Cabo
would have it (and Coleman tanks, too).
Alcohol stove is inconvenient, compared to propane. Haven't used mine for long time.
Edit - PS: for an ultimate backup I keep Sierra Zip. There is always plenty of driftwood around. Fan is not mandatory, it will work without fan, so-so. With fan it burns extremely well,
easy to start fire. My old model is more compact, fan has no bulky plastic "control unit".
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Difficult if not impossible to find those MSR cans in Baja or in Central or South America.
Recommend MSR Wisperlight International.
https://www.rei.com/product/830341/msr-whisperlite-internati...
Burns white gas, unleaded or kerosene.
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You can just go to the store and buy a regular camp stove that uses propane and buy a propane tank that fits when you arrive in SJ it might be much
easier, then put it plastic and bury it in the dessert for next time or give it away. Or eat fresh fruits, make ceviches and drink water and skip
cooking or make a fire when you want to go nuts.
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Alm
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Liquid fuel stoves - other than alcohol - are very difficult if not impossible to clean of fuel residue inside, up to standards of airlines.
Ditto on on buying a propane camp stove (that works with green tanks). Walmart, Home Depot and low-end camping stores in the US have $15 single
burners to screw on top of green tank, and $5 plastic stand to put under the tank for stability. There is not need to bury it in the desert before
taking a flight home, without a tank they are perfectly fine in air luggage, have done this many times.
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Liquid fuel stoves are banned in the western US fire prone zones. The propane stoves are allowed.
I guess is the liquid ones are prone to spills and fire flareup?
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Quote: Originally posted by PaulW  | Liquid fuel stoves are banned in the western US fire prone zones. The propane stoves are allowed.
I guess is the liquid ones are prone to spills and fire flareup? |
Yes, and alcohol fueled stoves are particularly treacherous, as they flame is nearly invisible. I use a JetBoil Zip for camping and backpacking, very
efficient on fuel, canisters last a long, long time.
John
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As mentioned by the other guy I think buying a $15 one burner at Walmart stateside that take the screw on green Coleman screw ons is the way to go.
The MSR style cartridges in the photos (those are butane BTW) would be difficult to find . Or - just cook over a fire of dry twigs and throw the
blacken pot away at the end of the trip.
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Perils of liquid fuel stoves begin well before you arrive at destination.
TSA rule is that (pressurized) fuel bottle should be completely clean of fuel fumes and residue. If there is any smell, they'll throw it out. Forget
about cleaning a used bottle that well. Occasionally inexperienced security screeners would confiscate even a new fuel bottle because of red paint
and warnings written on it.
Alcohol stoves are usually OK with airlines. Small 1 oz container is shallow with wide mouth, soapy water will clean it nicely. Besides, alcohol odor
is not as heavy as those other fuels.
Btw, even if you are not a smoker, you are allowed one BIC lighter in your pocket - not in checked luggage. Sometimes they ask if you're a smoker -
say Yes.
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"... just cook over a fire of dry twigs and throw the blacken pot away at the end of the trip."
Thanks for points made. I think I'll go with fire starters and pine cones and bring the alcohol stove. Going to do a test soon with titanium pot to
see how long it takes to boil water. Twigs, etc. as needed. I'll take advantage of restaurants as that is part of the fun, but like to be prepared
when "out there" - hot coffee on a wilderness beach is always memorable. When an alcohol stove is packed piece by piece in different places it is
unrecognizable.
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wilderone
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I tried my campfire experiment using my firestarters (egg crate/dryer lint/candle wax/wick) and pinecone (which I thought would burn fast and hot.
Turns out the pinecone did catch fire quickly, but smoked, and caused black residue on my pot. It also did not burn hot until it burned up, but
smoldered. So I added a pine tree twig which caught fire quickly, burned clean and little smoke. This is when the 12 oz of water started to really
heat up. I added very small twigs at the end to make a little bigger fire, and decided that is the key: Fire starters, with pine twigs or sticks
(which I’ll bring – have huge supply), and feed a twig or two to keep maximum heat going. The experiment took about 5 minutes, but I should be
able to get an acceptable coffee-ready (noodle soup) temperature in about 4 min.
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