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Canada O Canada
In today's paper under the Heloise column a lady said her daughter flew into Canada with her company group for business and upon arriving her daughter
was informed that she could not enter the country for 10 years following a DWI. She was put on a plane home.
Could this be true. What other traffic offenses would be passed on to the passport people, speeding tickets, car wrecks, parking tickets. Will Mexico
be next to enforce such rules.
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SFandH
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Quote: Originally posted by TMW  |
Could this be true. What other traffic offenses would be passed on to the passport people, speeding tickets, car wrecks, parking tickets. Will Mexico
be next to enforce such rules. |
Oh man, ALL the databases are being combined and the info will be available to all authorities, everywhere. Data storage capacity, processing power,
artificial intelligence software to perform the data sorting task, and the bandwidth to deliver the data are all there now. Very Orwellian. Privacy is
gone.
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I have the Canadian satellite provider Shaw, here where I live full time in Baja.
There is a whole series devoted to "Border Wars" and it's all about the Canadian border immigration system at the border.
Filmed like a "reality" show where it's live and on film, the interactions between CA custom agents and the border crossers.
Those CA border agents are very relentless in the stopping of potential smugglers and people who are attempting to pull a fast one with no visa to do
so legally.
As it should be. Sovereign is sovereign after all.
The excuses some people use is hilarious!!
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Even misdemeanor DWI arrests are treated as a felony in Canada, and I don't know what other offenses are considered that way. You are deemed
'inadmissible' for five years after the offense and any sentence (including probation) that was ordered.
After the five years, you may apply for a certificate of 'rehabilitation', which will take time and money well before you get to the border. After
ten years with no other offenses, you may be deemed rehabilitated and allowed to enter the country. I depends on the border agent!
They have the option of granting a one time waiver (for a fee) of the statute for some one who shows up unaware of their inadmissibility, but again,
it depends on the agent and probably what else they see in the background check.
If a person who has been denied entry, or has been granted the waiver shows up at any other entry point before getting the 'rehabilitation
certificate', they can be arrested on the spot!
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Welcome to the dystopian future we all knew was coming...
It's here now...
Since I've given up all hope, I feel much better
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| Quote: Originally posted by TMW | In today's paper under the Heloise column a lady said her daughter flew into Canada with her company group for business and upon arriving her daughter
was informed that she could not enter the country for 10 years following a DWI. She was put on a plane home.
Could this be true. What other traffic offenses would be passed on to the passport people, speeding tickets, car wrecks, parking tickets. Will Mexico
be next to enforce such rules. |
Yes, canada will not let in people with felonies and violent misdemeanors. Dui is a bad crime, dont blame canada for such a policy. Good reminder to
all you nomads: dont drink and drive.
Fyi, usa also refuses entry to a long list of criminal convictions.
A reminder to all: dont be criminal!
P.s. you seem to equate dui with parking tickets. In my book dui is about same as attempted murder.
[Edited on 8-31-2018 by mtgoat666]
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Time to update her resume, she's not going to be at that company much longer.
John
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Hey murica has been doing the same thing to Canadians for a long time. I have friends that have to fly over murica for things as lame as minor pot
arrests.
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| Quote: Originally posted by TMW |
Could this be true. What other traffic offenses would be passed on to the passport people, speeding tickets, car wrecks, parking tickets.
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Yes, it's true. Every country has different laws, people are not always aware. Those other traffic offenses are not on the list.
That show - Border Security - is a real thing, quite interesting to watch. They stopped making it few years ago, still very relevant today. DUI is
one of the most common issues. Another one is the misinterpreted rule of "legal medicinal marijuana" - legal to use, illegal to take across the
border, even with prescriptions. Trying to conceal in candies and cookies usually makes it worse.
US CBP may also deny entry to people with recent offenses that are considered felonies in the US code. Databases are shared, doesn't matter if you
arrive by air or by land, or entering the US from Canada or Mexico. Regardless of criminal offenses, US have been keeping tabs on movements of their
nationals much better than Canada, and were pressuring Canada for years to do the same. Since the last agreement you can't leave the US to CAN or CAN
to US without the govt of your country of origin knowing about it.
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That TV Border Security program also surfaces a surprising number of US citizens who don't know what the legalities are re: bringing firearms and
ammunition into Canada....
That and PD Live are lessons in what to do and not do ...and understanding tactics used. 
Don't believe everything you think....
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| Quote: Originally posted by motoged | That TV Border Security program also surfaces a surprising number of US citizens who don't know what the legalities are re: bringing firearms and
ammunition into Canada....
That and PD Live are lessons in what to do and not do ...and understanding tactics used. |
A while back, I asked the CA immigration directly, about a pass through Canada, on to Alaska, bucket list adventure trip, that would include
backcountry forays.
I had asked about bringing in a rifle for personal protection in Alaska.
I don't recall their exact response......but it was 99% NO and 1% maybe.
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I have traveled through Canada twice with firearms, and there is no problem with standard rifles and shotguns, but any handguns or sawed off rifles
and shotguns are illegal! Even semi-auto carbines such as my Ruger mini-14 and an SKS were allowed!
At the inspection station, I handed them a list of the make, caliber and serial number and paid a small import fee, which I understand is per visit,
not per firearm.
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Is the DWI/DUI ruling that Canada uses from a US court verdict or from the DMV. When you get a DUI in the US there is a court ruling which is normally
handled by a lawyer and a DMV ruling which may or may not be handled by a lawyer, but they are separate.
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Canucks can’t even admit to past pot use entering the US, even tho it’s legal in WA state and about to be legalized in CA.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/pot-border-banned-waiver-1....
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| Quote: Originally posted by TMW | | Is the DWI/DUI ruling that Canada uses from a US court verdict or from the DMV. When you get a DUI in the US there is a court ruling which is normally
handled by a lawyer and a DMV ruling which may or may not be handled by a lawyer, but they are separate. |
You wouldn’t have these questions if you had not been too cheap to take an Uber!
Now you know that Uber is cheaper than dealing with a DUI 
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DaliDali
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| Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo | I have traveled through Canada twice with firearms, and there is no problem with standard rifles and shotguns, but any handguns or sawed off rifles
and shotguns are illegal! Even semi-auto carbines such as my Ruger mini-14 and an SKS were allowed!
At the inspection station, I handed them a list of the make, caliber and serial number and paid a small import fee, which I understand is per visit,
not per firearm. |
Good deal and thank you for clearing this up.
It was quite a while back that I asked them about it and it may have been a "firearm" Q, rather than a rifle.
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| Quote: Originally posted by TMW | | Is the DWI/DUI ruling that Canada uses from a US court verdict or from the DMV. When you get a DUI in the US there is a court ruling which is normally
handled by a lawyer and a DMV ruling which may or may not be handled by a lawyer, but they are separate. |
You sound very very worried, when did you get your DUI?
I must admit, Canada, is very anal when it comes to DUI's from Americans.
This is a country that is about a month away from making recreational marijuana legal in about a month, and has me following a lot of Canadian stocks,
that have been flying high the last couple of days.
I don't know for sure, but I think Canada gets the arrest records, from the same place US Customs, does, and that would be a federal data base, and
therefore, they could go back more than 10 years.
Canadians don't care if it's a felony or minor misdemeanor, DUI, you received many years back, they want to keep you out, and it's causing lots of
American families problems about these unknown DUI's of family members.
The good news is that if you come clean, and admit you have a DUI, before traveling to Canada, you could fill out a " Temporary Resident Permit
(TRP), or a more permanent solution, a criminal rehabilitation application, where you ask them to forgive your DUI, provided something like five years
has passed, and you have kept off the sauce, or have not been caught again.
Anyway, that's what I last heard a few years ago, maybe it changed since then.
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At least the Canadians don't steal your children, incarcerate them, and turn them into orphans and wards of the government. Only in America.
John
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Actually, we did. We took kids from their families, isolated them residential schools and ruined their futures.
When the way comes to an end, then change. Having changed, you pass through.
~ I-Ching
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| Quote: Originally posted by tobianogreg | | Canucks can’t even admit to past pot use entering the US, even tho it’s legal in WA state and about to be legalized in CA. |
You are not allowed to take pot across the border regardless of your citizenship. US CBP applies same laws to both "canucks" and "muricans". Try and
bring marijuana from Canada to the US, declare it at the border and see what happens.
It's not a good idea to voluntarily admit the past use, either, - unless you had past marijuana arrests, in which case you have no choice but to say
Yes, if they ask. Possession of marijuana is a federal offense in the US. Some states may legalize it, but the border is governed by federal laws.
If you don't believe, there is an easy way to check: while waiting in the border line to enter the US, have a quick smoke, make sure there is a smell
in your car, and then tell CBP that you are a pot user, but it's "legal in WA and about to be legalized in CA".
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