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larryC
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Off road gps?
I'm looking for a good off road gps that will work for here in baja, and mostly baja norte. Something reasonably priced and easy to use. Has to be
satellite based no cell coverage around here. Otherwise I would use my phone and Google maps.
Off grid, 12-190 watt evergreen solar panels on solar trackers, 2-3648 stacked Outback inverters, 610ah LiFePo4 48v battery bank, FM 60 and MX60
Outback charge controllers, X-240 Outback transformer for 240v from inverters, 6500 watt Kubota diesel generator.
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advrider
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Your phone will work with no cell service, I use mine all of the time. Search this site or ADVRIDER for ton's of info. All you need is one of the free
app's.. Phones are way better then GPS'S these days, even a deadicated phone will be cheaper..
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JZ to the white courtesy phone, please! 
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John Harper
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Amazing but true. I went for my walk the other day and shut down the cell reception, mapped my path just like a GPS. Who knew?
I did download the OsmAndMaps app for Mexico, California, and Wyoming (next summer!).
You might try the OsmAnd app, it was easy, even for me, a 21st Century Luddite.
John
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JZ
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If you have an Android phone, Back Country Navigator is the best. It's really bad ass.
Gaia is really good as well and works on iPhone and Android.
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John Harper
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Is that better than the Osman app? I'm kinda just getting started on this too.
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JZ
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Btw, you can cache Google Maps for offline use as well. Very easy to do. Good for basic roads and stuff.
The GPS apps are better for offroading, hiking, etc.
Navionics the best app for boating. The maps of the SoC are excellent.
Standalone GPS's have gone the way of the dinosaur.
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StuckSucks
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With Gaia, you preload whatever background maps you want -- in this case, a satellite view. It's easy to overlay waypoints, tracks, etc. on top of the
map which takes a lot of the guesswork out of back-country navigation.
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The other cool thing Gaia can do is track you with full stats. Again, the track is very easy to overlay on Google Maps, etc.
If you were to fly from LAX to AUS, your speed and elevation profiles might look like this:
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advrider
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If I remember correct with OSM you have to down load the US map and then others (Baja) after that. I use an extra phone for all of my ridding in Baja,
way better than Garmin... Just start trying stuff and down loading tracks to see how it works. We have some tracks on here that you can use.
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John Harper
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Yes, I think I got one US state (California) first, then I could get Mexico and Wyoming. I believe I still have 2 free state (foreign?) maps left.
I'm still a paper map guy so it's a tough transition at times.
I've barely crawled from a cave it seems. That Gaia stuff looks incredible.
John
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pacsur
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I just started riding again a couple of months ago, riding solo I got lost too many times in the mountains at the beginning, I tried using a couple
old garmin gps units at the start, then motion x, I have ended up using Gaia, I bought an iPhone 5s for $70 on eBay and also have it loaded on all
other phones and iPad. It’s really nice to sit and use the iPad to look at maps and plot routes, all devices auto update when opened up, I’m
still using the $20 version, I’m pretty happy with it, it seems the upgrade offers some more map download options and map layering.
Does anybody have recommendations for handlebar mounts for phones?
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John Harper
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Quote: Originally posted by pacsur  | | I just started riding again a couple of months ago, riding solo I got lost too many times in the mountains at the beginning, I tried using a couple
old garmin gps units at the start, then motion x, I have ended up using Gaia, I bought an iPhone 5s for $70 on eBay and also have it loaded on all
other phones and iPad. It’s really nice to sit and use the iPad to look at maps and plot routes, all devices auto update when opened up, I’m
still using the $20 version, I’m pretty happy with it, it seems the upgrade offers some more map download options and map layering.
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I have a buddy that does the same, I'll have to tell him about Gaia. He'll have a chance to use it and then I can learn from him. Thanks.
John
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advrider
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Not cheap, but the best mount I have found is the perfect squeeze! 1800 miles in Baja last year and never came loose... I still love paper maps just
because I'm visual and like a back up..
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pacsur
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| Quote: Originally posted by advrider | | Not cheap, but the best mount I have found is the perfect squeeze! 1800 miles in Baja last year and never came loose... I still love paper maps just
because I'm visual and like a back up.. |
That looks nice but cost more than my phone...but seeing they sell a small tablet mount is good news, the 5s I’m using is small but works, Ive been
thinking about an iPad mini with gsm but couldn’t find a mount, looks like a used iPad and the mount together for $250-$300, still cheaper than a
good stand alone gps I think.
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JZ
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You can get great cell phone mounts on Amazon for under $15. The most important thing is for it to have a "web" that goes on the corners of your
phone. With that, your phone isn't coming off no matter how rough it gets.
I run my S9 plus with case using this one. It has 4.5 stars with 5K reviews.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LWDCSIZ/?m=A13ERCCN9HCJ61
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DouglasP
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| Quote: Originally posted by StuckSucks | With Gaia, you preload whatever background maps you want -- in this case, a satellite view. It's easy to overlay waypoints, tracks, etc. on top of the
map which takes a lot of the guesswork out of back-country navigation.
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Can you give me a quick tutorial on loading satellite maps, please? Also, will it work with Bing or just Google?
I use both Gaia and Back country navigator extensively. I would like to learn this option.
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PaulW
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| Quote: Originally posted by larryC | | I'm looking for a good off road gps that will work for here in baja, and mostly baja norte. Something reasonably priced and easy to use. Has to be
satellite based no cell coverage around here. Otherwise I would use my phone and Google maps. |
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Bike or car?
I am a car guy and I want a big screen. These days that means a tablet. Small screen phones don't cut it for me. My antique Lowrance is a 7" and my
tablet is an 8" Android. And mounts cost more for a big tablet. I use Ram mount.
JZ uses Android, but Apple pads also work. Then choose the app of your choice. Probably follow the lead of JZ unless you have a close friend with
other APP or platform. All the APPs I have played with all allow loading/saving/sharing tracks. Maps vary so at least load them and look at the maps
at various zoom levels and see what you think. All are useful offline.
As us usual the learning curve is huge. So just try a couple.
If you have a locator/tracker for emergencies then use the Inreach map. Its map called Earthmate is not great.
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larryC
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Wow I'm glad I asked this question, I was getting ready to either spend a bunch of money on a new off road gps or put more money into an old Garmin
gps 72 that I still have. I have an iphone 6 so I'll look into some mounts and the Gala app. Thanks again for all the input.
Off grid, 12-190 watt evergreen solar panels on solar trackers, 2-3648 stacked Outback inverters, 610ah LiFePo4 48v battery bank, FM 60 and MX60
Outback charge controllers, X-240 Outback transformer for 240v from inverters, 6500 watt Kubota diesel generator.
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John Harper
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Wow, just downloaded the Gaia GPS app, looks killer! Got all the contour lines and trails for free. Looks better than OSM already.
John
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