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Sailing lessons near Loreto?


My wife and I have been interested in learning how to sail, I noticed Puerto Escondido looks like a pretty popular spot for sailboats nearby to where we are staying here in Loreto.

I cant seem to find anyone offering lessons on line, maybe you guys know someone local?

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[*] posted on 2-2-2019 at 07:45 PM


I could see sailing if you have months of time to burn, but not otherwise. They just go too damn slow.

We use to go out to the Channel Islands almost every other weekend for years, They are about 20-25 miles offshore of Los Angeles. In the AM we'd almost always fly by a sail boat 5 miles or so out of the harbor.

We'd hit the first island in 35-45 mins and either spend all day in a bay, hike a little, or continue on to the 2nd or 3rd island in the chain. Then cook dinner and head back. The sail boat we passed would just be lumbering in as we were leaving.

I doubt you are gonna find formal lessons in Loreto, but may find someone just asking around at the marina bar/restaurant in Escondido. Best to get the lessons in the US out by a marina. Tons of options.

Btw, San Carlos in Sonora has a much bigger boating community. Thousands of boats. There are about 35 anchorages in the 50 miles North of SC. Beautiful area for sailing and boating.



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[*] posted on 2-2-2019 at 09:49 PM


Quote: Originally posted by defrag4  
My wife and I have been interested in learning how to sail, I noticed Puerto Escondido looks like a pretty popular spot for sailboats nearby to where we are staying here in Loreto.

I cant seem to find anyone offering lessons on line, maybe you guys know someone local?

Thanks!


Don’t listen to jizz, he is an idiot that has never been on a sailboat, would not know the first thing about sailing, kites or his own dick.

There is a NOLS sailing school near loreto, but it is a 1-month school more for adolescents and and young clues less adults on their gap year. They teach using drascombes, a cool day sailer.

There is a sailing school in la paz, but I think they only teach on big boats.

For learning, to get the basics down, you are better off learning on a day sailer, before trying boat.

Ask around at some of the kayak operators for leads on sailing,... but don’t ask jizz!


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[*] posted on 2-3-2019 at 06:32 AM


I owned a Hobie Cat 16 for years, what a blast it would be to sail around Loreto with all that wind! Nothing like setting the mainsail on a windy day and having the boat just take off like a rocket! What a rush. Flying the hull all the way across Sail Bay and back, out on trapeze, so fun. Learning to sail was one of the best hobbies I ever engaged in. I highly recommend it.

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[*] posted on 2-3-2019 at 08:59 AM


Pick yourself up a cheap used sunfish , watch a few Utube videos, and go for it, you'll get the hang of it pretty quickly, its not rocket science. It's alot of fun, and there is alot of satisfaction in teaching yourself the basics!
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[*] posted on 2-3-2019 at 09:14 AM


Quote: Originally posted by caj13  
Pick yourself up a cheap used sunfish , watch a few Utube videos, and go for it, you'll get the hang of it pretty quickly, its not rocket science. It's alot of fun, and there is alot of satisfaction in teaching yourself the basics!


That's pretty much how I learned, although I only read a couple basic sailing guides, no YouTube back then. It's actually pretty easy, you figure it out quick.

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[*] posted on 2-3-2019 at 09:18 AM


What is your time frame in Loreto? My neighbors where I am staying in northern California Are headed that way with their Hobie Cat, but not for another month.

If you are still going to be around, I will refer them to this post. They are aware of this forum, but have never registered.

I agree with John, flying around in a Hobie is a blast!




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[*] posted on 2-3-2019 at 10:46 AM
Wind v. Power


It's not the arrival, it's the voyage. Sailing is its own reward.

Those who Sail ARE Sailors.

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[*] posted on 2-3-2019 at 11:34 AM


Thanks guys! I have heard a Hobie cat is the best vessel to learn on from some other friends as well

We are going to be staying in town as long as we can stand the heat :lol:

Going to start snooping around town to make a friend with a hobie I can borrow :light:





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Quote: Originally posted by MrBillM  
It's not the arrival, it's the voyage. Sailing is its own reward.

Those who Sail ARE Sailors.

Power-boaters are just drivers.


That's nice in theory, the reality is most sail boats dangle in the wind on their moorings or rot in dry docks on stilts.

Boaters are explorers. There are 37 islands in the SoC and hundreds of anchorages. We've seen 90% of them and counting, many dozens of times. Not to mention the 100's of day trips or anchoring out under the stars.

I wouldn't own a sailboat if you gave me one for free. It's the equivalent of riding a bicycle in the desert versus a dirt bike.





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[*] posted on 2-3-2019 at 12:20 PM


Ive got a friend towing his Panga over to our house this week for me to work on, so hopefully we can have the best of both worlds soon enough

Motor + Sail!




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Quote: Originally posted by defrag4  
Thanks guys! I have heard a Hobie cat is the best vessel to learn on from some other friends as well

We are going to be staying in town as long as we can stand the heat :lol:

Going to start snooping around town to make a friend with a hobie I can borrow :light:



Best to learn on is a sunfish or laser or similar. They are sporty, and easy, but be prepared to get wet.
I am not a fan of cats, prefer monohulls, but to each their own, I guess




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Quote: Originally posted by defrag4  
Thanks guys! I have heard a Hobie cat is the best vessel to learn on from some other friends as well


Once you learn the technique of "backwinding the jib" on a Hobie to execute your tack the rest is easy. Tacking in high winds can be a challenge.

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Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
Quote: Originally posted by MrBillM  
It's not the arrival, it's the voyage. Sailing is its own reward.

Those who Sail ARE Sailors.

Power-boaters are just drivers.


That's nice in theory, the reality is most sail boats dangle in the wind on their moorings or rot in dry docks on stilts.

Boaters are explorers. There are 37 islands in the SoC and hundreds of anchorages. We've seen 90% of them and counting, many dozens of times. Not to mention the 100's of day trips or anchoring out under the stars.

I wouldn't own a sailboat if you gave me one for free. It's the equivalent of riding a bicycle in the desert versus a dirt bike.



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Here are a couple of links to some of my favorite sailing channels on YouTube:

Ran Sailing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4AP2p6KnfU

Sailing the Vagabonde

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgZ4KEpyz5Q&t=80s




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[*] posted on 2-3-2019 at 02:05 PM


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Jizzy,
You are an ignorant fool!


I can see you now, flip-flopping around in the bay on your little Sunfish.

True sailing (and boating) skills are passed down from father to sons on big boats.




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[*] posted on 2-4-2019 at 10:32 AM
Sailing and Driving


JZ points out that he can get THERE quicker in a powerboat. Which tends to make MY point. Many [most ?] power-boaters looking upon the vessel as a facilitator for transportation or other activity i.e skiing, fishing, diving, etc.

Spending a day on San Diego bay or elsewhere, one could see most power boats heading TO a destination FOR a purpose at the highest legal (or often illegal) speed. The majority of sailboats are simply out to SAIL.

Over the years, mostly in light winds, I have had many exchanges with mi esposa or guests aboard over starting the engine when progress was slow. As noted more than a few times in various publications "A True sailor NEVER starts the engine until he HAS to".
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[*] posted on 2-4-2019 at 10:49 AM


Bigger keel boats are definitely easier to sail. I learned on my father in law's 38 foot Erickson and Island Packet. You might check at the marina for boats looking for crew. A lot of guys like my father in law that have wives who hate sailing and need an extra hand or two.



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Quote: Originally posted by MrBillM  
JZ points out that he can get THERE quicker in a powerboat. Which tends to make MY point. Many [most ?] power-boaters looking upon the vessel as a facilitator for transportation or other activity i.e skiing, fishing, diving, etc.

Spending a day on San Diego bay or elsewhere, one could see most power boats heading TO a destination FOR a purpose at the highest legal (or often illegal) speed. The majority of sailboats are simply out to SAIL.

Over the years, mostly in light winds, I have had many exchanges with mi esposa or guests aboard over starting the engine when progress was slow. As noted more than a few times in various publications "A True sailor NEVER starts the engine until he HAS to".


You are confused. Just because ppl don't want to move at a snails pace doesn't mean they don't like the journey. Even with power, the time to get there is longer than you are there. That's the fun part. Look, I love road trips, but I'm not gonna do it with a horse and buggy.

We've taken numerous long trips down the entire coast of Baja. How many sailors have gone from San Felipe to Loreto or San Carlos to La Paz?

Let's face facts, an engine allows you to see and experience 100x the number of places. Unless you have years to spend sailing you simply miss out on getting to journey to most of the bays in the SoC.

Most sailors don't have that much time or energy to trip to those places. So their boats just rot away.



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[*] posted on 2-4-2019 at 03:33 PM


Certainly to each his own, power or sail. We sailed from San Carlos down to La Paz 20 years ago in our full keel boat. Have gone all over the Sea, visited many anchorages and islands in that 20 years. Truly enjoying the journey. In an anchorage we had our dinghy to explore, comfort with full beds, the microwave, a refrigerator, etc. No need to hurry as we were self contained and comfortable. Ham radio provided e-mail and XM radio the news. We sailed comfortably from San Carlos to Conception Bay overnight in a screaming blue norther in February with little concern for sea conditions in 35 knot winds. Sailing with no motor sounds, just the sound of wavelets on the bow, soft music playing on the CD player, and carrying on conversations without yelling....who really needs to be in a hurry? Isn't that one of the lessons we gringos learn in Mexico. Again, to each his own...
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