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Marc
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Vizcaino Speed Warning
Going south on April 30 cruising along at about 80mph totally ignoring the posted speed limit. This would be about my 50th time through this stretch
of Vizcaino without any problems.
BUSTED!! We got a very nice lecture from a Federal Cop. Seems he has been scraping up crash victims for to long. He told us 65mph will not get
ticketed. Lesson learned. On the way back at 65 we actually passed by a cop.
I ran a red light in front of a cop Hermosillo a few years ago. Another nice guy. After he discovered we were lost we followed him out of town to Mex
16.
These two incidents are my only contact with police in Mexico in 40+ years.
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Paco Facullo
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So Marc, how was it handled ? ie; written ticket, bribe or set free w/ warning ?
I always drive in baja with a radar detector , although I don't speed much except, some places have a 35 km speed limit and that's way too slow.
Since I've given up all hope, I feel much better
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bajaguy
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They have been in that area for a long time, plenty of posts and plenty of warnings
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John M
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We've only been stopped one time and that was...
in 1982 we wore working on a house at LaSalina. We had purchased a roof beam in Rosarito and had it sticking way out of the back of our pick-up -
probably extended 8' beyond the back of the truck. A Federal Police stopped us, we were S/B on the free road - and of course we knew why - I had been
too lazy to even put a little red flag on the back.
He explained that as in the states we just need red on the back. He went back to his cruiser - I figured to get his ticket book - but instead he
fished around in the trunk and found a red shirt - we hammered it on the end of the beam and we were off with a nice greeting from the cop.
John M
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David K
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There was a cop along the stretch between the eagle and Vizcaino last week.
I got caught by radar north of El Rosario in 2017, he let me off, I gave him a cold water, he let me try the radar gun, on a passing motorist, we are
amigos now. I love Mexico!
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pacificobob
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i find only one traffic rule needs to be observed in mexico.
DON'T DRIVE LIKE AN A-HOLE.
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shari
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There are 2 places the Feds set up speed traps....one is at the entrance to Laguna Ojo de Liebre...usually set up after 8 in the morning and often in
the afternoon they are at the entrance to the Ejido Benito Juarez just south of the lagoon entrance...it's an easy place for people to pull
over...lots of space.
That stretch of highway between GN & Vizcaino is like the Bermuda Triange...an inordinate number of people die there....most dangerous part of the
whole transpeninsular highway. Probably because it is straight and in the middle of the peninsula so lots of people are tired and checking their
phones, putting music on, eating etc. and people trying to pass on the straight stretch.
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bajaguy
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Speed Trap??
Not a "speed trap" if you are doing the speed limit......calling it a "speed trap" is like shooting yourself in the foot and blaming someone else
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chumlee57
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I kinda agree with bajaguy on this, when I'm cruising mex 1 I try and drop my type A stateside driving personality. One of the reasons mexico suits me
is that as soon as I cross the bordr my whole octive level goes down, I'm on vacation, I stop rushing. Stuff happens on mex 1, don't push it. The area
between GN and Vizciano, especially the hilly dunes south of GN have always been a place to be extra careful. One time after driving through and
seeing what looked like a cop with a radar gun, we spent the night at Don Eddies ( when he was running the place ) we told him about the cop with a
radar gun, he said it was probably a hair dryer  chistoso
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BajaBlanca
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a hair dryer hahahaha 
It is a speed trap only in that it is really oh so easy to lift the eyes away from the speedometer!
Go to England where there are cameras everywhere. and I mean EVERYWHERE, and they say the ticket is in the mail before y reach the next stop sign. ouch.
Les got his first federal cop warning on the stretch between GN and Vizcaino. The guy was so polite and did ask if it was the first time. He
said the next time would bring about a ticket.
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mtgoat666
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That stretch of highway is dangerous. Twice on that stretch i have come upon wrecks with dead bodies on the ground awaiting collection. And as i
cruise it at 69 mph i am always passed by fools speeding on a mission to die.
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
Prefered gender pronoun: the royal we
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shari
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Quote: Originally posted by bajaguy  | | Not a "speed trap" if you are doing the speed limit......calling it a "speed trap" is like shooting yourself in the foot and blaming someone else
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where they set up traps people who speed so I figure calling it a speed trap is fine and I support it....I drive slow.
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bajaguy
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Poor driving - yes
Long, straight highway segments are "usually" the most dangerous as drivers get lulled into a false sense of comfort and do not pay attention (or doze
off). When I was working we had more (and more fatal) accidents on a straight stretch of Interstate 80 between milepost 107 and 138 even before
texting was "invented"
| Quote: Originally posted by David K | People's poor driving is what is dangerous. That stretch of straight, level highway is maybe the safest since leaving San Quintín where the highway
narrows to just 19 ft. wide. Alcohol and texting may be two factors for accidents along here?
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Desertbull
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The speed limit thru that section of Mex Hwy 1 is 48 MPH, 80 KPH.
The Federales have been pretty lenient, but they do write a lot of tickets through there.
Going 80 mph and dropping a wheel 14 inches off the pavement into the soft sand will turn your vehicle into a rolled burrito. Seen it a lot in the
past right there.
Drive safe.
DREAM IT! PLAN IT! LIVE IT!
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John Harper
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | | Exactly! Blaming the highway for one's poor driving is like blaming a gun for its trigger being pulled! They are both tools used by humans. People
need to responsible for what they do. |
No worry about a speed trap if you're not speeding.
John
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willardguy
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yeah who doesn't drive 48 mph?
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Marc
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| Quote: Originally posted by Paco Facullo | So Marc, how was it handled ? ie; written ticket, bribe or set free w/ warning ?
I always drive in baja with a radar detector , although I don't speed much except, some places have a 35 km speed limit and that's way too slow.
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He showed us a printout of fines corresponding to the violation. We paid directly to the officer. Like I said, we were guilty so it's not exactly
mordida as far I am concerned. Cost me $150 USD. No big deal.
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BajaBlanca
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Our friend Ernesto got a ticket there and he had to pay $210 dollars!
He is Mexican and he was guilty but OUCH.
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Rossman
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I have been stopped three times on that stretch between GN and Viz. All three times I was over the limit and twice it was significantly over. In
general the federales were quite professional. One took a good bit of time explaining the difference between MPH and KPH. The other two appeared to
ready to write a ticket but once they realized I live in the area, was not going to pay him on scene, and a trip to the station to deal with it was
not that much of an inconvenience, they sent me on my way. I will say that they target gringos and especially ones with fully loaded cars and trucks
heading south. A profile of someone needing to be some place later that day and most likely to handle it quickly and with the cash to do so.
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JoeJustJoe
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| Quote: Originally posted by Marc |
He showed us a printout of fines corresponding to the violation. We paid directly to the officer. Like I said, we were guilty so it's not exactly
mordida as far I am concerned. Cost me $150 USD. No big deal.
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It's nice to see someone actually admit they paid a bribe to a Mexican cop, because usually about 90% of members of Baja forums, blogs, and group
sites on social media, usually claim they stood up to some corrupt Mexican cop, but you know that can't be true, because Mexican cops would quit
asking for bribes if everybody stood up to them.
But it does seems like you're rationalizing the Mexican cops behavior just because you were actually speeding and he had a print out of fines. Once
the Mexican cop starting hinting for a mordida, he is corrupt, and he is breaking a bigger law than you.
I never advise anyone to not pay or pay a bribe to a corrupt Mexican cop, but I will say this, if you decide you will pay a bribe, at least negotiate
the mordida. For a traffic infraction, I would probably negotiate and bargain the mordida, down to $40 dollars, and chances are he will take the
bribe. For a DUI, maybe $200 to $500 max, if you really have been drinking, and had a few shots.
It could have been worse, if you were back in the US, on a highway, and a Highway Patrol, officer sitting in his car catches you in a speed trap, and
your ticket ends up costing $400 dollars with fine and traffic school.
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