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californio
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Loreto Polution
This is dangerous and disgusting
On the 25th August the pumping station for sewage at the entrance of Colonia Miramar in Loreto starting spilling RAW sewage out into the street. After
1 week the sewage has reached the Marine Park of Loreto - Parque Nacional Bahía de Loreto The spill is a kilometer long, visually seen on the surface
of the soil because the arroyo La Candelaria is made up mostly of clay soil. The Director of Water Department, Alejandro Fimbres didn't notify the
community of the problem until a reporter from La Paz asked what was going on because complaints were arriving from Loreto. The Director of State
Commission for Sanitary Risks (Commission Estatal para la Protection Contra Riesgos Sanitarios) was not notified and Loreto does have its own office.
For the interview done to this officials please visit the article by Diario El Independiente http://bit.ly/RawSewageSpill
Also, Civil Protection of Loreto which is suppose aid in this scenarios did NOT notify the community of health risks. This is not a case of "out of
sight-out of mind" for the effects will be felt in the air even after the spill has dried up as pathogens travel in the dust (such as bacteria and
endotoxins). Please see the following links that explain the problem http://bit.ly/EffectsOfRawSewage and http://bit.ly/AirbornBacteriaFromWasteWaterTreatmentPlants. Also mosquitoes in this water can affect human health long after the spill has dried
up. In Santa Rosalia, spilling raw sewage into sea has led to weakening the chocolate clams inside the bay to the point the clam population is no
longer growing because they are infested with bacteria (Please see in the commentary science article on study of clams in Santa Rosalia by Center
Cicimar in La Paz).
As per the Director of Water Department the sewage pump might be fixed soon but does not guarantees on what date. The raw sewage smells strong, its
contaminating the soil, passing by schools, homes, beach, the arroyo La Candelaria, the coastline and the sea (please see attached aerial photo of raw
sewage spill reaching the sea from the highway). Why didn't the contingency offices and systems work to avoid this simple problem? In my opinion:
Probably because of lack of transparency in the operation of the Water Department and inappropriate usage of funds for water works. Remember, water is
public property in Loreto. We all pay collectively 15 million pesos annually for the service but its difficult to see the money in the field when the
Water Council (made up of ordinary citizens) is not providing oversight as required by law. The irresponsible management of Water Department and the
negligence by the Water Council is destroying the environment of Loreto, and the infrastructure that was set up for Loreto to grow.
Finally, It is unfortunate we didn't hear anything from Loreto Ideal - a local platform for citizen action created by Eco Alianza de Loreto.
Please be careful being in the vicinity of the spill, with consuming fish or mollusks from Loreto - the spill has not been stopped.
Please share this article in what every way you prefer so we don't have to wait another week to have this spill stopped and covered. Thank you so much
for your help.
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motoged
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That's chitty....
Don't believe everything you think....
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pacificobob
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Mexico wouldn't be the same without the smell of sewage
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mtgoat666
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Loreto has the best beaches in Baja!
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will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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amigobaja
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When in Mulege someone wanted directions to the tile store or Calimax you just told them to drive north into Santa Rosilia and make a left at the
sewage smell. No more explanation needed.
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chuckie
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some things never change
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The article states that a pump and a spare pump failed because of the recent rains. Presumably, the rainwater entered the sewer system and caused the
volume to increase beyond the pump's capability. Oops, tough to find good engineers these days. There's no good reason to pump around rainwater.
How much did it recently rain?
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BAJA.DESERT.RAT
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Hola chuckie,
apparently, things do not change.
in the mid to late 80's, the tackle shop i went to started putting together a group of customers to fish in baja and loreto was the first of our 20
year group relationship with baja sifting through people and adding and subtracting people annually.
the first year we went to loreto and there was a small stream of raw sewage in front of the old presidente hotel where we stayed.
the following year we went back to loreto and guess what...the stream of sewage was still running.
unfortunately, the dorado fishing was exceptional both years but we decided to go to la paz and fish with our group.
those were the best years of our baja excursions of fly down and back with five days and four nites hotel and three days of panga fishing.
BIEN SALUD, DA RAT
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Hook
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If this is the first incidence of raw sewage flowing into the Sea in Loreto, consider yourself lucky. It's a regular occurrence in most of Mexico.
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Remember Parkey Sharkey.
Every beautiful beach in the world needs a few condo towers - NOT.
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Quote: Originally posted by Hook  | | If this is the first incidence of raw sewage flowing into the Sea in Loreto, consider yourself lucky. It's a regular occurrence in most of Mexico.
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24 hours a day, every day, raw Tijuana sewage from a main
"treatment" plant that just passes the effluent through without treatment flows off the beach into the ocean about 5 miles south of the border, daily
offerings from 100s of thousands of people. A simple pipe into deep water to get it away from the coastline would make a world of difference. But, I
guess there are better things to spend money on.
And a mile or two north of the border, the TJ "river" empties into the ocean at south Imperial Beach. All sorts of toxic stuff and garbage.
Lots of talk, periodic photo ops for politicians, endless studies and plans, then nothing.
It's been that way for decades.
[Edited on 9-2-2019 by SFandH]
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Lee
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Loreto has a sewage problem that's been going on for years. Drive the Malecon South of La Mision and you'll smell it.
Surfed The Sloughs in the 60s. Took some sickness to realize the Tiajuana Rivermouth was the problem. Best waves around. Water stunk.
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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| Quote: Originally posted by Lee | Loreto has a sewage problem that's been going on for years. Drive the Malecon South of La Mision and you'll smell it.
Surfed The Sloughs in the 60s. Took some sickness to realize the Tiajuana Rivermouth was the problem. Best waves around. Water stunk.
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all the city sewer runs down to 2 big reservoirs on the malecon, then its pumped back uphill to the water treatment plants
unfortunately, it appears for some damn reason the reservoirs are uncapped and smell like chit 24/7, gets really bad on hot days!
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In southern California they put in deep water outfalls starting in the 1950's, one after another from north to south, and the tuna fleet left soon
after, from north to south. Deep water outfalls are not the answer, unless you want the ocean off Loreto to look like the water in Santa Monica Bay,
e.g. full of treated sewage.
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chippy
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| Quote: Originally posted by bajaric | | In southern California they put in deep water outfalls starting in the 1950's, one after another from north to south, and the tuna fleet left soon
after, from north to south. Deep water outfalls are not the answer, unless you want the ocean off Loreto to look like the water in Santa Monica Bay,
e.g. full of treated sewage. |
The southern Ca. tuna fleets demise had nothing to do with deep water outfalls. The fleet was thriving into the late 70s early80s. Thank environmental
regulations ("dolpin safe") for the fleet leaving to other locations in the Pacific.
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Trouser trout, a whole new fishery.
Every beautiful beach in the world needs a few condo towers - NOT.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: Originally posted by chippy | | Quote: Originally posted by bajaric | | In southern California they put in deep water outfalls starting in the 1950's, one after another from north to south, and the tuna fleet left soon
after, from north to south. Deep water outfalls are not the answer, unless you want the ocean off Loreto to look like the water in Santa Monica Bay,
e.g. full of treated sewage. |
The southern Ca. tuna fleets demise had nothing to do with deep water outfalls. The fleet was thriving into the late 70s early80s. Thank environmental
regulations ("dolpin safe") for the fleet leaving to other locations in the Pacific. |
I think they also left to change to cheaper foreign labor...
Woke!
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will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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bajaric
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | Quote: Originally posted by chippy | | Quote: Originally posted by bajaric | | In southern California they put in deep water outfalls starting in the 1950's, one after another from north to south, and the tuna fleet left soon
after, from north to south. Deep water outfalls are not the answer, unless you want the ocean off Loreto to look like the water in Santa Monica Bay,
e.g. full of treated sewage. |
The southern Ca. tuna fleets demise had nothing to do with deep water outfalls. The fleet was thriving into the late 70s early80s. Thank environmental
regulations ("dolpin safe") for the fleet leaving to other locations in the Pacific. |
I think they also left to change to cheaper foreign labor...
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There were a lot of reasons why the tuna fleet left Southern California. Foreign competition in places with cheap labor and no environmental
regulations did not help. The fact remains that after the sewage outfalls went in the tuna left the waters of the Southern California bight and never
really came back, at least in any quantity. In the 1920's hand liners harvested tuna in small boats right off the beach in San Pedro. Even as late
as 1980 140 millions pounds of commercially harvested fish were landed in San Diego. By 2015 that number had dropped to a half a million pounds (all
species) Coincidence? Or is that just how long it took for the flood of chit spewing out of the outfalls to kill off the food chain. During the
Americas cup years ago I recall that the Point Loma outfall sprang a leak and you could get a look at what really comes out of the end of those pipes,
a boiling mass of filthy black effluent spewing out at the rate of 285 million gallons a day full of Prozac and whatever else gets past the treatment
plant. That just cant be good for the plankton, and bait needs plankton, and tuna need bait. Anyhow, I am going to get on a boat and go tuna fishing
in Baja where there are no sewage outfalls and plenty of baitfish, provided the boat has a forward escape hatch in the bunk room.
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Be careful Ric!
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| Quote: Originally posted by Ace | I don't know what post is worst, with the usual Baja haters, like Hook above or Man-with-Gas, whacking Mexico, like the US has clean beaches or
problems with raw sewage when it rains.
But Man-with-Gas, is a big time Trumpster, who turns a blind-eye to Trump, turning back the clock to most environmental laws in the US.
People who support Trump, are despicable people period!
So clean up your own chit before you bag on Mexico.
| Quote: Originally posted by Man_With_Gas | Come and pay a visit to El Tule where all the new hotels are going up.
Le Blanc, Hotel Grand Velas etc etc.
They're pumping their raw sewerage straight into the ocean approx. 20 feet from the shore line.
Things have become so much more expensive in the area and yet they do this. The bubble for foreigner $ should cease because of this disgusting
practice.
They appear to never learn and continue to try and kill their golden goose.
Absolutely disgraceful on every level.
[Edited on 9-2-2019 by Man_With_Gas]
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CRAZY much Jay?
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